1998 S matte Kennedy Halves.
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These things have been doing a slow burn for years. Would an end to the series pull them back up in terms of price?
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<< <i>These things have been doing a slow burn for years. Would and end to the series pull them back up in terms of price? >>
Although I still collect Kennedy half dollars, I don't see the set or the 98S Matte appreciating in value a great deal in my lifetime (I'm in my 60s).
Don't know if ending the series would change things much. Both the Ike and SBA dollars came and went and they've gone nowhere.
Just my 2¢
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<< <i>These things have been doing a slow burn for years. Would and end to the series pull them back up in terms of price? >>
Although I still collect Kennedy half dollars, I don't see the set or the 98S Matte appreciating in value a great deal in my lifetime (I'm in my 60s).
Don't know if ending the series would change things much. Both the Ike and SBA dollars came and went and they've gone nowhere.
Just my 2¢ >>
You're probably right. I bought one fairly early on in PCGS 69 for $400.
But today, at my local pawn store, I bought the two coin Robert Kennedy Dollar, Matte Kennedy half for $42.95.
Now I've got 'em dollar cost averaged back to "break even" levels for me.
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<< <i>These things have been doing a slow burn for years. Would and end to the series pull them back up in terms of price? >>
Although I still collect Kennedy half dollars, I don't see the set or the 98S Matte appreciating in value a great deal in my lifetime (I'm in my 60s).
Don't know if ending the series would change things much. Both the Ike and SBA dollars came and went and they've gone nowhere.
Just my 2¢ >>
You're probably right. I bought one fairly early on in PCGS 69 for $400.
But today, at my local pawn store, I bought the two coin Robert Kennedy Dollar, Matte Kennedy half for $42.95.
Now I've got 'em dollar cost averaged back to "break even" levels for me.
I'd flip the set on eBay or BST - you got a real bargain.
That's not a deal, more like a steal. Nice score.
<< <i><<But today, at my local pawn store, I bought the two coin Robert Kennedy Dollar, Matte Kennedy half for $42.95. >>
That's not a deal, more like a steal. Nice score. >>
Melt on the set is about that isn't it?
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<< <i><<But today, at my local pawn store, I bought the two coin Robert Kennedy Dollar, Matte Kennedy half for $42.95. >>
That's not a deal, more like a steal. Nice score. >>
Melt on the set is about that isn't it? >>
Just about.
For a total of $36.45, still a hell of a deal.
The name is LEE!
My question is, why do they have 2 rows for a CAM and DCAM, is there such a thing?
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
The proof Jeffs you cited are fetching pretty good prices now. The Roosie, not so much.
<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point.
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point. >>
Sure, but quite a few people would likely fill those spots and not leave them empty since these aren't nearly as expensive as the big key dates and collectors don't like empty spots! Sure, they shouldn't puts spots for these in the normal circulation strike albums. But, I don't see why they shouldn't be in the albums that include spots for proof coins (which were also not for circulation). Not sure it would cause the coins to double in value or anything, but it would definitely get some of them selling.
But yeah, this JFK/RFK set has definitely come down quite a bit. As have the 94/97 Jefferson Sets w/ the nickels. But lots of the pricier modern mint stuff seems to have come down quite a bid. I was surprised that a 1999 Silver Proof set sold at our coin club auction last night for only $80! That has come down a ton. So have the 2001 Buffalo Dollars and a bunch of others.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point. >>
Just checked my 2012 Red Book
1994P 5¢ Matte: 167,703
1997P 5¢ Matte: 25,000
1996W Dime: 1,457,000
1998S 50¢ Matte mintage figures not reported in Red Book but the RFK dollar lists 106,422 BU and 99,020 proof, so the mintage has to be less than 100,000
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point. >>
Just checked my 2012 Red Book
1994P 5¢ Matte: 167,703
1997P 5¢ Matte: 25,000
1996W Dime: 1,457,000
1998S 50¢ Matte mintage figures not reported in Red Book but the RFK dollar lists 106,422 BU and 99,020 proof, so the mintage has to be less than 100,000 >>
wow off the top of my head I did good but no cigar lol.
point still stands though, which was not really made on the mintage figure.
now If I could figure out the point I was trying to make.
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Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point. >>
The 1998-S Matte Silver Kennedy half dollar is the 'key' to the series with a mintage of 62,350 and was only released in the two coin "collectors set" . I can not figure out why PCGS treats the coin only as a variety and not a basic coin in the Registry sets.
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<< <i>If they made a spot for this coin in the Dansco albums (and other similar albums), the demand and prices would go up. Same story with the 1994-P and 1997-P matte proof Jefferson Nickels and the 1996-W Roosevelt Dime. >>
not sure how I feel about that, 96-w Dime saw alot more mintage wise than the 94-p (115k?not sure) and the 97-p (25k)
also, halves really are not a "circulating coin" so to say. I owned several JFK Mattes over the years, 69, 70-raw
and I just never really found a love for them. At the time I was buying/selling the set seemed to be pulling $260
on average (rfk&jfk set) and if I am not mistaken these are under $200 now? The mintage was 250k right?
not sure a simple spot in a dansco would help, more likely it would be just another spot in the album that goes unfilled
like the 16-D or 1918/7 well you get the point. >>
The 1998-S Matte Silver Kennedy half dollar is the 'key' to the series with a mintage of 62,350 and was only released in the two coin "collectors set" . I can not figure out why PCGS treats the coin only as a variety and not a basic coin in the Registry sets.
When they took it out of the Regisrty set is when I deleted my set. As I took a forty percent loss in value of my PCGS MS70 at that time.
<< <i>When they took it out of the Regisrty set is when I deleted my set. As I took a forty percent loss in value of my PCGS MS70 at that time.
Has PCGS ever stated why it was removed from the sets? I notice that NGC has the coin required in the basic proof set for the series but PCGS treats it as a variety in the business strikes, this is puzzling to me that the two Registries put the same coin on the opposite sides. I think I understand each point of view for the reasoning but you think that the two companies would / could agree on the general principal if this coin is a ‘business strike’ or ‘proof’.
I never understood why the grading companies back in 1992 didn’t start listing the ‘silver’ proofs as ‘Type 2’ coinage similar to the 1942 T1 and T2 Jefferson nickels, after all was it done earlier because of the metal composition? If they want to treat the 98-S Matte as a proof, then it would be the ‘Type 3’ or if they determine it to be a ‘business strike’ then it would be the first and only coins with that date and mint mark (1998-S), either way it should be a basic coin and not a variety.
Just my two cents, or with the rate of inflation, fifty cents,
<< <i>The 1998-S Matte Silver Kennedy half dollar is the 'key' to the series with a mintage of 62,350 and was only released in the two coin "collectors set" >>
Where did you find the mintage information?
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I never understood why the grading companies back in 1992 didn’t start listing the ‘silver’ proofs as ‘Type 2’ coinage similar to the 1942 T1 and T2 Jefferson nickels, after all was it done earlier because of the metal composition? If they want to treat the 98-S Matte as a proof, then it would be the ‘Type 3’ or if they determine it to be a ‘business strike’ then it would be the first and only coins with that date and mint mark (1998-S), either way it should be a basic coin and not a variety.
Just my two cents, or with the rate of inflation, fifty cents, >>
Doesn't NGC grade the 98S Mattes as Specimen (SP)?
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I never understood why the grading companies back in 1992 didn’t start listing the ‘silver’ proofs as ‘Type 2’ coinage similar to the 1942 T1 and T2 Jefferson nickels, after all was it done earlier because of the metal composition? If they want to treat the 98-S Matte as a proof, then it would be the ‘Type 3’ or if they determine it to be a ‘business strike’ then it would be the first and only coins with that date and mint mark (1998-S), either way it should be a basic coin and not a variety.
Just my two cents, or with the rate of inflation, fifty cents, >>
Doesn't NGC grade the 98S Mattes as Specimen (SP)? >>
yes
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>The 1998-S Matte Silver Kennedy half dollar is the 'key' to the series with a mintage of 62,350 and was only released in the two coin "collectors set" >>
Where did you find the mintage information?
It is printed in several places. When the mint first sold these sets, one of the selling points was that it was limited to 60,000. If you subscribe to CoinFacts, you can check there or 'Coin Prices" magazine list the different mintage for US coins.
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I never understood why the grading companies back in 1992 didn’t start listing the ‘silver’ proofs as ‘Type 2’ coinage similar to the 1942 T1 and T2 Jefferson nickels, after all was it done earlier because of the metal composition? If they want to treat the 98-S Matte as a proof, then it would be the ‘Type 3’ or if they determine it to be a ‘business strike’ then it would be the first and only coins with that date and mint mark (1998-S), either way it should be a basic coin and not a variety.
Just my two cents, or with the rate of inflation, fifty cents, >>
Doesn't NGC grade the 98S Mattes as Specimen (SP)? >>
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PCGS grades them "SP" for "Special Strikes" now adays, they used to label them "MS"
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I never understood why the grading companies back in 1992 didn’t start listing the ‘silver’ proofs as ‘Type 2’ coinage similar to the 1942 T1 and T2 Jefferson nickels, after all was it done earlier because of the metal composition? If they want to treat the 98-S Matte as a proof, then it would be the ‘Type 3’ or if they determine it to be a ‘business strike’ then it would be the first and only coins with that date and mint mark (1998-S), either way it should be a basic coin and not a variety.
Just my two cents, or with the rate of inflation, fifty cents, >>
Doesn't NGC grade the 98S Mattes as Specimen (SP)? >>
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PCGS grades them "SP" for "Special Strikes" now adays, they used to label them "MS"
When Richard sold me mine it was still MS and that is what is on the lable even though later PCGS changed the data base to show SP.