Opinions please, on a possible purchase.

rawmorgan

Been getting the "Morgan Blues" lately, looking for something else to peak my interest. Found this on ebay and looked up prices based on auction history. Seems a bit overpriced, but since this series is not my forte, I'm asking for any and all opinions or comments. I like the coin, and the early copper series. It's certified PCGS.

Here is the link.

1791 Washington Large Eagle Cent - VF35

It's not an auction, but a BIN. So I don't believe I'm breaking any unwritten rules here.

With this seller all sales are final with certified coins.

Barndog

do they all come with a corroded appearance to them? The surfaces don't seem so nice, but I don't know the series.

rawmorgan

I want to say that the images of the coin are the result of a flatbed scanner and not it's possible appearance. But I have no real way of telling without it in hand, and since the seller offers no returns on certified coins. I wouldn't believe PCGS would have assigned the grade had the surface had microporousity or corrosion.

unbrok3n

I was also looking at buying this coin. This variety is actually the next to get on my list.
It's hard to tell though. Ultimately (I think) I decided to wait for a higher grade...but I am new to colonials and there is a lot of grey area when buying this stuff from what I hear.

TheCoinGeezer

<< <i>I want to say that the images of the coin are the result of a flatbed scanner and not it's possible appearance. But I have no real way of telling without it in hand, and since the seller offers no returns on certified coins. I wouldn't believe PCGS would have assigned the grade had the surface had microporousity or corrosion. >>


The surfaces seem questionable.
I will not, under any circumstances, buy a coin off eBay from a seller that doesn't offer a return policy.
Yeah, I know you can file a claim with both eBay or Paypal and get your $ back in most cases but sellers who don't back up their wares with a return policy are suspect in my book.

rawmorgan

With the history of auction sales the price is a little high, so I could probably get one in better condition for just a little more. This is a lark buy anyway, so it's not really that important. The lack of return policy is a big red flag.

Barndog

<< <i> The lack of return policy is a big red flag. >>

BillJones

I'm on my laptop, and the images are not as good as the ones I get at home. Still the surfaces look grainy to me with marks on Washington's forehead and cheek. I once owned one of these in Mint State so I have bias against lower grade ones. I don't like the surfaces from what I can see. Unless you budget is limited to this price range, I'd look for better.

BaseballAbs

I personally will never purchase from that seller.

BaseballAbs

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<< <i>I want to say that the images of the coin are the result of a flatbed scanner and not it's possible appearance. But I have no real way of telling without it in hand, and since the seller offers no returns on certified coins. I wouldn't believe PCGS would have assigned the grade had the surface had microporousity or corrosion. >>


The surfaces seem questionable.
I will not, under any circumstances, buy a coin off eBay from a seller that doesn't offer a return policy.
Yeah, I know you can file a claim with both eBay or Paypal and get your $ back in most cases but sellers who don't back up their wares with a return policy are suspect in my book. >>



Or perhaps some dealers don't want to deal with idiots that are indecisive once they purchase a coin. Especially with a PCGS graded coin with their guarantee attached. Of coarse I totally understand if the images don't represent the item properly.

shorecoll

I had a nice AU and the surfaces were perfect. I wouldn't buy it without a return policy. I'd check out CVM (earlycents.com) and some of the other copper specialists at least for comparison, and they all offer returns.

OPA

<< <i>Been getting the "Morgan Blues" lately, looking for something else to peak my interest. Found this on ebay and looked up prices based on auction history. Seems a bit overpriced, but since this series is not my forte, I'm asking for any and all opinions or comments. I like the coin, and the early copper series. It's certified PCGS.

Here is the link.

1791 Washington Large Eagle Cent - VF35

It's not an auction, but a BIN. So I don't believe I'm breaking any unwritten rules here.

With this seller all sales are final with certified coins. >>



Not according to this listing: MY RETURN POLICY: I accept returns if not pleased up to (7) days from date of receipt.

TheCoinGeezer

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<< <i>I want to say that the images of the coin are the result of a flatbed scanner and not it's possible appearance. But I have no real way of telling without it in hand, and since the seller offers no returns on certified coins. I wouldn't believe PCGS would have assigned the grade had the surface had microporousity or corrosion. >>


The surfaces seem questionable.
I will not, under any circumstances, buy a coin off eBay from a seller that doesn't offer a return policy.
Yeah, I know you can file a claim with both eBay or Paypal and get your $ back in most cases but sellers who don't back up their wares with a return policy are suspect in my book. >>



Or perhaps some dealers don't want to deal with idiots that are indecisive once they purchase a coin. Especially with a PCGS graded coin with their guarantee attached. Of coarse I totally understand if the images don't represent the item properly. >>



Pictures of coins, no matter how well done, are many times not truly representative of what the coin looks like in hand, whether TPG graded or not.
I don't think a buyer is an "idiot" if they see the coin in hand, don't like what they see and want to return it.
Of course, your view is obviously different.
A seller who won't back up his coins with a return policy is a seller who appears to have something to hide.
Just my 2¢

jesbroken

I personally have never had an issue with this seller and have bought several coins from them. I have never known of this seller not to have a 7 day return policy on any purchase, but perhaps this has changed. Where did you read this about the seller's return policy.
Jim

rawmorgan

It's the last line of his "return policy."

All sales are final on certified coins.

Thanks

HoledandCreative

Looks more than lightly pitted on obverse and reverse to me. When it doesn't sell this time, maybe he will send it to you on approval? Viewing in hand is always best.

notwilight

Can't tell if the coin is grainy or the photo but that seller has a reputation of having photos that look better than the coins they represent. --Jerry

Justlooking

Yeah, I definitely don't like the pitting on Washington's forehead. I don't know if the surfaces are questionable or not; I just don't like the way it looks. I think there is a nicer one out there for you somewhere. The search is half the fun ... maybe even 75 percent of the fun.

ambro51

<< <i>t's the last line of his "return policy." All sales are final on certified coins. Thanks >>




I fully agree with this on an ebay coin auction.

lkeigwin

I bought a few large cents from this seller and was not disappointed. His photos were pretty accurate too...much better than ebay-average.

As for the cent in question, there is some porosity. Pretty common with old copper. But I don't know this series.
Lance.

coinhunters

Normally. I would agree with the sellers " All Sales are Final on Certified Coins " . When I was selling on EBAY, I employed the same policy. EBAY has become a very unsafe venue for Selling and Buying encapsulated Coins because of the many devious individuals on both sides of the fence. For a few dollars more, and peace of mind, I will now only consign my items to a reputable Numismatic Auction House or in certain limited situations offer some items in the BST . PAYPAL also has a few disadvantages when using their services as a Seller, especially when Buyers use a CC for payment.

astrorat

I just bought a raw CBH from this seller and there were no issues ... other than a slower than expected delivery (probably due to the post office). The images were spot on for the coin. Interestingly, the seller does not include the "No returns on certified coins" in the "Returns" section of the listing.

fastfreddie

I think if you're patient you can do better for your money. I had an AU55 small eagle and it wasn't much more!

TJM965

Why don't you just ask the seller if you can have a 7 day return on this coin?

TPRC

I've owned a few colonials that had porosity or micro porosity, yet were still slabbed. They are tough coins to sell. So, my suggestion is to hold out for one with a nicer planchet.

TomB

Why would you ever support a seller who attempts to push a no returns policy on you? That is something I cannot understand. Regardless, PayPal would allow a return since they write at the top of the listing that there is a seven day return policy. In the event of a dispute, you would win.