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Pamp Dragons . . . Anyone Buying?

halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
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What do ya'll think of THESE

My apologies if these have been posted before . . . Hard to keep up with all the forums.

HH
Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!

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  • FistFullOfDollarsFistFullOfDollars Posts: 359 ✭✭✭
    I was going to order 1 but $65 shipping is a little extreme.

    Perhaps if someone wanted to do a group order.




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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    Don't forget they only take wires.

    Average bank fee for wire is $25 at least.

    There is also little recourse if something goes wrong.


    Loves me some shiny!
  • TwinturboTwinturbo Posts: 493
    Could we arrange for a group buy???
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice bars...but I'll wait for the US bullion dealers to get hold of them.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    US dealer gets them I'll buy one of each of the silvers if they're not too terribly gouged up.
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    They are cool as all get out and I'm dying for a domestic dealer to get their paws on these. The 100g bars seem rediculously cool.

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could we arrange for a group buy??? >>



    I would be in on this for some silvers if someone facilitates. Shipping and wire fees spread out of course, plus a little bird-dog fee for the trouble.
  • ZubieZubie Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭✭
    Im in for a few as well if anyone is putting together an order. Tim
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  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    There are a couple on ebay ...mostly from Australia.

    But talk about premiums!
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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good god, dealing with the Pamp sales director on trying to find out if any US distributors are getting these is a ridiculous PITA.
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    PAMP distribution is very odd.

    For some reason, a German outfit had all of these sizes in sealed assay card all over eBay.

    No one else had them! (?)

    Loves me some shiny!
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MTB is a wholly owned US Subsidiary of MKS ( Parent Co. of PAMP )... Nothing on their website, but they primarily are a bullion wholesaler. Goldavenue...a Geneva based subsidiary of PAMP, does not have the Dragons as of yet.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭


    << <i>MTB is a wholly owned US Subsidiary of MKS ( Parent Co. of PAMP )... Nothing on their website, but they primarily are a bullion wholesaler. Goldavenue...a Geneva based subsidiary of PAMP, does not have the Dragons as of yet. >>



    Thanks for the info. Hopefully MTB will sell them soon image
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>MTB is a wholly owned US Subsidiary of MKS ( Parent Co. of PAMP )... Nothing on their website, but they primarily are a bullion wholesaler. Goldavenue...a Geneva based subsidiary of PAMP, does not have the Dragons as of yet. >>



    Thanks for the info. Hopefully MTB will sell them soon image >>



    I don think so. They do not carry standard Fortuna bars so why these?

    No one is saying anything about these outside of one Australian dealer. Odd.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been trying to find out from the Pamp sales director person if these are coming to a N.A. distributor. There seems to be an issue with the question in english though.
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭


    << <i>PAMP distribution is very odd.

    For some reason, a German outfit had all of these sizes in sealed assay card all over eBay.

    No one else had them! (?) >>



    It happened the same with the 100g Pamp. A German seller had several of them while no one else had that size. Now they are pretty popular.
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>PAMP distribution is very odd.

    For some reason, a German outfit had all of these sizes in sealed assay card all over eBay.

    No one else had them! (?) >>



    It happened the same with the 100g Pamp. A German seller had several of them while no one else had that size. Now they are pretty popular. >>



    Along with the 50 gram and 10 oz..which were readily available in Australia.
    Australia must not have any import tax duties on these. If you try to order a PAMP from Goldvine, shipped to the US, well, forget it.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • ibex66ibex66 Posts: 426
    I've purchased a sizeable quantity of these due for delivery mid-Nov. If interested in purchasing PM me, Paypal, check/MO. Given the high premium, wire fees and shipping costs I have quite a bit of money tied up in these.
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just got this after a back&forth since last Wed:

    ************
    Dear Chad,

    Sorry for my late reply.
    The Lunar dragon is currently under registration at US custom to be sold in local market. As soon as it is approved, our US branch 'MTB' based in New York will distribute the range locally.
    My colleague Michael Kramer (copied in this email) will be in touch with you shortly to inform on possible availability.

    Thank you very much.

    Kind Regards,
    Nadia Haroun
    ....................................................................................

    Sales & Marketing Director

    PAMP SA
    CH-6874 Castel San Pietro
    Switzerland
    Tel: +41.91.695.04.56
    Mobile: +41.79.476.13.96
    Fax: + 41 91 695 04 51
    www.pamp.com
    ....................................................................................


    From: Chad <xxxx@coca-cola.com>

    To: Nadia Haroun <xxxx@pamp.com>

    Date: 13.10.2011 18:28

    Subject: RE: Fw: Pamp Lunar Dragons for United States retailers?


    Hi Nadia

    The problem is that I could not find a United States retailer who would have the Lunar Dragons, only Australian. I was asking if you knew of any that would be getting this product for North America.

    Chad
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good to know that MTB may end up getting them, pending clearance of red tape from US Customs. Unfortunately MTB, as a bullion wholesaler, is not properly set up to play the retail field. We shall see. I know they made an exception with the pucks.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • ibex66ibex66 Posts: 426
    MTB had the 1 oz lunar dragons over a month ago so this is not surprising. Not sure if they are sold out or not - I'm guessing yes. Their fixed price on those was $90 each - when money is involved MTB is much more than just a bullion wholesaler.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MTB had the 1 oz lunar dragons over a month ago so this is not surprising. Not sure if they are sold out or not - I'm guessing yes. Their fixed price on those was $90 each - when money is involved MTB is much more than just a bullion wholesaler. >>



    Really? Not according to PAMP's
    Nadia Haroun
    Sales & Marketing Director

    They are still awaiting customs ok.

    Some one is not telling the truth.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • ibex66ibex66 Posts: 426
    Some reason I thought we were talking about the Lunar coins from Perth. Its a Pamp thread. Thats intriguing if Pamp is saying they are in customs - my impression was they hadn't even been minted yet.
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Chad for your email.
    We hope you can get access to our range as soon as possible. The sales are very strong in other countries especially in Australia, Asia & East Europe!

    Kind Regards,
    Nadia

    ***********
    Haven't heard from Kramer at MTB yet, but he's been cc'd on the past couple back & forths with Nadia.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some reason I thought we were talking about the Lunar coins from Perth. Its a Pamp thread. Thats intriguing if Pamp is saying they are in customs - my impression was they hadn't even been minted yet. >>



    Per DrBuster:

    "The Lunar dragon is currently under registration at US custom to be sold in local market. As soon as it is approved, our US branch 'MTB' based in New York will distribute the range locally."

    You are probably correct that the physical bars have not been produced yet, but are scheduled for production shortly.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    APMEX has a boat load of generic dragon bars available... @ about 1/2 the price of the PAMP bars... but are not nearly as artistic. But it's bullion.

    APMEX
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭
    Any update on this?
    eBay still has a lot of presales.image
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I refuse to consider buying them at $70 per toz.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭


    << <i>I refuse to consider buying them at $70 per toz. >>



    I agree with you Opa. The 10g is going in the $40-50 range.
    I will be interested in a 100g Ag and 5g Au but the prices are way too high for me.
    Hope to see them available by one of the big guys. MM
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    I picked up a tray of the 1 oz Ag bars and and a tray of the 10g Ag bars along with a couple 100 gram bars.

    They took 6 weeks to arrive. They are very nice. Iw ould have passed except I a weak spot for Pamp bars.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The New York Mint has them available...pre sale price of $55.95 per 1 oz silver bars. Less expensive than what there going for on eBay.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭
    Thanks OPA.

    I have found on eBay a Pamp dragon bar with a blue card (the standard one). Isn't that weird?


    PS: The darn 5g Au is too expensive at NYMint as well...
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