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1944 Steel Cent

savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,292 ✭✭✭✭
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Sticks to a magnet....


....so what do you think? an altered 1943 steelie with the last date digit tooled? 4th digit of date is undersize (stem of 3rd "4" and tip of 4th "4" should almost touch)




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  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    I vote altered 43. The second 4 does not look right to me.
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  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of the date looks fishy to me
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The date should look the same as the one that appears on a normal 1944 cent. It doesn't so this piece is an altered 1943 steel cent.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Altered? I would say so. But I'll also say this, they did a good job. WOW! If they would have got this # "4" in the right place it would be tough to call. Interesting, and scary at the same time....Joe
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Altered? I would say so. But I'll also say this, they did a good job. WOW! If they would have got this # "4" in the right place it would be tough to call. Interesting, and scary at the same time....Joe >>



    You also need to note that the "4" is too small. I'd call it a half way decent job, not a "good job."
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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fake

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fd7W7w5kcdor4hdr5

  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    wow, did you find this?
    pretty cool....but looks fake.
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  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    either way my heart would've jumped if i found that image
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could have been worse, imagine finding a copper 1913 p,d or s with VDB on the shoulderimage

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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fake too...also:
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not even close.

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Most of the date looks fishy to me >>



    Let's see, the 1 isn't high enough, the 9 isn't closed enough, the first 4 doesn't look right and the second 4 is way too small...

    I vote Chinese fake.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Most of the date looks fishy to me >>



    Let's see, the 1 isn't high enough, the 9 isn't closed enough, the first 4 doesn't look right and the second 4 is way too small...

    I vote Chinese fake. >>



    I think you might be right.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First impression die-struck counterfeit.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Some of the fakes look very well made
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  • LostSislerLostSisler Posts: 521 ✭✭✭
    I think that the original 3 was completely removed and a donor 4 (that was poorly removed from the donor coin) was glued to this coin, altering it. Tried putting the coin in Acetone yet?
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  • AuAgPtAuAgPt Posts: 100
    Send it to China for a 'PCGS' slab and it should come back real. -aap
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a "from scratch" fake, not an altered genuine 1943.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i dont like the date on it

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