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  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am a Saints fan and I grew up watching Archie Manning quarterback the Saints. Archie had a crappy record and threw more picks than touchdowns and the Saints lost a lot of games late (and early for that matter). But, we understood that when your best offensive weapons are guys like Bob Newland and Jess Phillips, you aren't going to put together a lot of wins. It wasn't Archie's fault. Same applies to Romo. Has Romo blown games? Absolutely. I will put the Jets game on him. But, I will also put the 49ers game on him as well. Dallas SHOULD have lost that game. You are a 7-6 team. With Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees you might be a 9-4 team. With Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy you are probably a 3-10 team. Romo has done a good job this year. You are nowhere NEAR being the 13-0 team that you proposed earlier, even if Aaron Rodgers was your quarterback at his best. >>



    Thanks for being realistic, I think the talent of the Cowboys is being exagerated.
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  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    Romo is the anti-Tebow.
  • Im a lifelong Cowboys fan. Im everything 70's Roger and Doomsday on through the 90's dynasty with Emmitt. But it is embarrassing when "so called" fans like Dimeman say stupid things and make it so much more easier for Non-Cowboys. Fire Jones, Romo Sucks, get rid of Garrett..... Please...... to bad Jerry Jones can't fire Dimeman.

    The "beat down" quote..... I didn't know weather to laugh or cry for the fool. So I did both I laughed so hard I cried! Sure wish he would quit defaming the Landry/Staubach avatar.
  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Im a lifelong Cowboys fan. Im everything 70's Roger and Doomsday on through the 90's dynasty with Emmitt. But it is embarrassing when "so called" fans like Dimeman say stupid things and make it so much more easier for Non-Cowboys. Fire Jones, Romo Sucks, get rid of Garrett..... Please...... to bad Jerry Jones can't fire Dimeman.

    The "beat down" quote..... I didn't know weather to laugh or cry for the fool. So I did both I laughed so hard I cried! Sure wish he would quit defaming the Landry/Staubach avatar. >>



    I really don't understand how Romo's ability can be questioned this season, he has been playing at a very high level for most of the season.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bigreddog - Don't go there with me! I have been a Cowboy fan since they started in 1960 thru good and bad times. There is NOBODY that is bigger fan of the Cowboys than myself. The Cowboys are a good team this year and could be much better if Romo could play a whole game and not just 2 or 3 quarters. I have not said anything that is not true. Even in the rout over the Bucs he forgot to play the last half. Good thing they built up the 28-0 lead. I've said it before give me Tebow anytime. He finds ways to win while Romo finds ways to lose. And Jason Garrett for a coach is a joke. What am I supposed to do.....say how great they (Garrett & Romo) are when they are not! Maybe Romo will turn it around, but after 6 years how many good years does he have left age wise??

    Also - I understood the beatdown remark and just considered the source!image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been enjoying the ride Tebow is on as much as anyone, but no way would anyone in their right mind choose him over Romo if you had to choose a starting QB.


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  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I am shocked that Dimeman is in his upper 50's or 60's.image

    I really thought you were in your 20's or younger.

    Goes to show our conceptions of internet personalities can be really "off".

    I've been a Cowboys fan since my childhood hero Staubach was leading them in the 70's--I think Romo has the talent to get it done--with help from his team mates and coaching staff. They've just repeatedly been a victim of some horrible mistakes (not just Romo, but also others--namely defensive let downs), or facing a better team the few times they have gotten into the playoffs this past decade. I think Romo's window is still open for a few more years as far as having a chance to get back to top contenders in the NFL.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>I am shocked that Dimeman is in his upper 50's or 60's.<<<

    Yes, I am 64 and a die hard Cowboy fan......I remember the 1 and 15 year before we got the BIG 3 and started winning SB's.

    And yes, Romo has the talent, but is not consistant(sp) in his reading defenses and knowing when to make a play or throw it away instead of throwing a pic or pic's and lose a game that was in the win column.
  • My Apologies Dimeman. From one Cowboy fan to another. But you do say some of the strangest things. Luckily your Cowboy Emotion is not running the team.
    I did put the Jets game on Romo. But seriously...... 20 QB's over Romo?
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>I did put the Jets game on Romo<<<

    Yes, and the Detroit game and the Giants game and several others that I have tried to block out. Especially the Detroit game.

    I'm not saying 20 better, ability wise.....but winning wise. He can pass for 300-400 yards and 3 TD's, but if he blows it in the end.....................................it's just another loss.

    And I do think Tebow will be a great NFL QB!

    I remember when a guy named Dan Marino came out of Pitt.......nobody thought he would even be able to play at the NFL level!image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember when a guy named Dan Marino came out of Pitt.......nobody thought he would even be able to play at the NFL level!

    Dimeman, please don't tell me you're comparing Tebow to Marino, now.. image


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  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


    << <i>>>>I did put the Jets game on Romo<<<

    Yes, and the Detroit game and the Giants game and several others that I have tried to block out. Especially the Detroit game.

    I'm not saying 20 better, ability wise.....but winning wise. He can pass for 300-400 yards and 3 TD's, but if he blows it in the end.....................................it's just another loss.

    And I do think Tebow will be a great NFL QB!

    I remember when a guy named Dan Marino came out of Pitt.......nobody thought he would even be able to play at the NFL level!image >>



    Austin admitted the incomplete pass was on him and Romo still led them to a FG attempt that would have tied the game. At what point is the defense responsible for protecting the lead or making a play? Staubach and Aikman had amazing defenses that did more than carry their own weight. Romo doesn't have that luxary.

    I like Tebow and believe he's a winner but if a QB throws for 300-400 yards and 2-3 TD's and no turnovers then the problem isn't the QB but the team.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If any of the 32 teams had Tebow and Romo on the same roster, Tebow is riding the pine on all of them. MJ
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>Dimeman, please don't tell me you're comparing Tebow to Marino, now..<<<

    No, not at all, I'm saying he has talent....give him a chance. I don't know why everyone is so down on him.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>Dimeman, please don't tell me you're comparing Tebow to Marino, now..<<<

    No, not at all, I'm saying he has talent....give him a chance. I don't know why everyone is so down on him.


    I like Tebow as a person and as a player, and I think his story is refreshing in this day and age of rap sheets and rude behavior, don't get me wrong. I just don't think he is going to be successful long-term as a starting QB in the NFL. Teams will adapt to him and he's not going to be able to pull our dramatic comebacks on a weekly basis. That said, I do think he can be part of a winning program with the right talent around him, though the 2011 Broncos aren't that talented, and if they make the playoffs, that is going to be quite an accomplishment in itself.


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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without all the turnovers that game would have been different............but NE is very hard to beat. Brady is a QB that I wish Romo would turn into. I know that is a tall order, but the only difference is in the head. Throwing wise Romo is there or real close.

    And I don't care what Austin says......I was watching and that was definitely on Romo.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <Without all the turnovers that game would have been different>

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  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭
    Saw a stat during the game Saturday night that in his last 7 December games Romo has 15 TDs and 1 interception yet the Cowboys had a losing record. At some point you have to place some of the blame on the players and coaches around him.

    Dimeman,
    Please go ahead and name the 20 QBs that you would currently take over Romo for their "winning" ways. I am sure any knowledgeable fan will get quite the chuckle once you get past your 5th or 6th QB.

    As for Saturday I guess a complete game would be 400 yards and 8 TDs? Romo had only 3 drives in the 2nd half : the one fumble, drove them to a field goal, drove them to the Tampa 33 and then had the drive stall with a sack. The last two possessions were all running plays to run time off the clock. So in the only 3 meaningful possessions in the 2nd half he drove them into Tampa territory twice and came away with a field goal. The fumble was definitely his fault but asking your QB to be perfect is not very realistic.

    Anyways you apparently pine for a top 10 all time QB and you know more about the catch-ability of a pass than an pro bowl wide receiver. Sometimes you have to love the irrationality of sports fans.

    Robb
  • The Cowboys fans are the same ones that demanded Danny White be benched (at the time he was the highest rated passer in pro football history) in favor of Gary Hogeboom because Danny White couldn't win the big playoff games the way Staubach did.
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    You are generalizing all Cowboys fans on Danny White. I never had a problem with Danny White. He put the hurt on Atlanta in a playoff game I remember. And he should have gone to the SB when the Cowboys had SF in trouble and on a jailbreak running for his life Montana tried to throw the ball out of the end zone to avoid a sack.....but he couldn't get enough on it and it became "the catch" and SF backed into that SB.

    You know it's funny. When I was standing up for Romo in the past I got critized for liking him because he was a Cowboy. Now that I try to look at him for what he is I get critized..................well I'm finished talking about Romo!

    One last thing on him. If the Cowboys manage to win the NFC, which could happen and get to the NFC Champ. game and somehow bet the Packers (if KC can do it anybody can) and go to the SB and win.........I will then call Romo a winner. But if they lose any of those games I can almost bet ya it will be because of his bonehead play.

    And before you go knocking the Dallas defense..........................guess who has given up more points.....Dallas or Green Bay???!!!!image Look it up!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Points against is a misleading stat when your offense us usually putting the other team behind by 3 TDs and can play prevent for the rest of the game. They're not the '85 Bears, but the Pack D is better than most people give them credit for, and has a habit of making the big play when they need to.


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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Green Bay has a terrible defense statistically as well. MJ
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  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭
    If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record.
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  • Dimeman, I was generalizing. Not you specifically, but as a group. I just know that when I listened to sports talk radio in the metroplex in the mid 80's, most of the fans were complaining about two things: Danny White and Tom Landry. To be honest, I understand how you think. You have a franchise that is #2 in Super Bowl wins, has tons of HOFers, and two HOF quarterbacks. When your franchise can list Don Meredith, Craig Morton, and Danny White and they aren't even in the top two of all-time, you've had a great run. So, you naturally compare Tony Romo to those guys and Staubach and Aikman. And that would be a fair assessment if Romo had the kind of talent that they had surrounding them. But he doesn't. Not even close. Worse defense, worse line, worse receivers, worse running backs, worse coach. If the 1992-95 Cowboys were to merge with this year's team, the current roster wouldn't start more than a handful (at best!) of guys. Let me ask you this, and be honest... If Troy Aikman and Tony Romo were to magically switch and Aikman was the quarterback of this year's team and Romo was the quarterback of the 1992-95 teams, do you believe the results would be much different? My opinion, not much. They would still have multiple rings with Romo, and Aikman would have this team at about 8-6.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PoweredH2O - If you are asking me to compare Troy and Tony.....Troy was the best hands down.

    I will agree that the 92-95 Cowboys were much better all around like you mention. The 92-93 Cowboys were the best team ever! Period!

    But Troy was also better than Tony. Troy would have this team better, but not what 92-93 had.


  • << <i>If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record. >>



    The Eagles are 3-1 in the Division with the Cowboys and Giants 2-2 and 2-3 respectively.

    The Eagles playoff chances will not end this week with a Giants win. The Cowboys have to lose 2 and the Giants 1. Eagles then win 2 (both Division games which would put that record at 5-1) and take the 8-8 tiebreaker on head to head or Division record.

    Ironically the Eagles have no chance of getting the wild card I believe.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record. >>



    The Eagles are 3-1 in the Division with the Cowboys and Giants 2-2 and 2-3 respectively.

    The Eagles playoff chances will not end this week with a Giants win. The Cowboys have to lose 2 and the Giants 1. Eagles then win 2 (both Division games which would put that record at 5-1) and take the 8-8 tiebreaker on head to head or Division record.

    Ironically the Eagles have no chance of getting the wild card I believe. >>



    If the Giants beat the Jets the Eagles playoff run is over. That would put the Giants at 8-7 and the Cowboys at 8-7 with a hypothetical loss against the Eagles heading into the last week of the season. Since the Cowboys and Giants play each other someone is going to go 9-7 or both 8-7-1 in case of a tie. For the Eagles to get in they have to win both, the Cowboys have to lose both and the Giants have to exactly lose to the Jets and beat the Cowboys . No other way. Could happen.

    Yes, the Eagles can not win the Wild Card. The Lions and Falcons both already have 9 wins.

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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record. >>



    The Eagles are 3-1 in the Division with the Cowboys and Giants 2-2 and 2-3 respectively.

    The Eagles playoff chances will not end this week with a Giants win. The Cowboys have to lose 2 and the Giants 1. Eagles then win 2 (both Division games which would put that record at 5-1) and take the 8-8 tiebreaker on head to head or Division record.

    Ironically the Eagles have no chance of getting the wild card I believe. >>



    Philly math at it's finest. :-D

    If the Giants win this week, then the only way they can lose a game is if Dallas beats them, which pretty much prevents Dallas from losing two games, doesn't it?
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    << <i>If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record. >>



    The Eagles are 3-1 in the Division with the Cowboys and Giants 2-2 and 2-3 respectively.

    The Eagles playoff chances will not end this week with a Giants win. The Cowboys have to lose 2 and the Giants 1. Eagles then win 2 (both Division games which would put that record at 5-1) and take the 8-8 tiebreaker on head to head or Division record.

    Ironically the Eagles have no chance of getting the wild card I believe. >>



    Philly math at it's finest. :-D

    If the Giants win this week, then the only way they can lose a game is if Dallas beats them, which pretty much prevents Dallas from losing two games, doesn't it? >>




    Didn't realize that Dallas and the Giants play again. My mistake.

    Don't blame it on the entire Philly fan base. We're a bit tired of that.

    Carry on.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    Don't blame it on the entire Philly fan base. We're a bit tired of that.

    Carry on. >>



    Fair enough. Both fan bases seem to get hit with a ton of unfair stereotypes.
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  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>If the Giants win their game against the Jets then the Cowboys have really no reason to play their starters b/c a win against the Eagles has no value in the standings. A Giant win this weekend would also pretty much knock the Eagles out of the playoffs w/ the winner of the Cowboys-Giants game taking the NFC East title b/c either team would finish w/ a 9-7 record. >>



    The Eagles are 3-1 in the Division with the Cowboys and Giants 2-2 and 2-3 respectively.

    The Eagles playoff chances will not end this week with a Giants win. The Cowboys have to lose 2 and the Giants 1. Eagles then win 2 (both Division games which would put that record at 5-1) and take the 8-8 tiebreaker on head to head or Division record.

    Ironically the Eagles have no chance of getting the wild card I believe. >>



    If the Giants beat the Jets the Eagles playoff run is over. That would put the Giants at 8-7 and the Cowboys at 8-7 with a lost against the Eagles heading into the last week of the season. Since the Cowboys and Giants play each other someone is going to go 9-7 or both 8-7-1 in case of a tie. For the Eagles to get in they have to win both, the Cowboys have to lose both and the Giants have to exactly lose to the Jets and beat the Cowboys . No other way. Could happen.

    Yes, the Eagles can not win the Wild Card. The Lions and Falcons both already have 9 wins.

    MJ >>



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    I can't believe this division is so bad this year that the Eagles still have a mathematical possibility to win it. I'm almost afraid to see them win and get into the playoffs.
  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PoweredH2O - If you are asking me to compare Troy and Tony.....Troy was the best hands down.

    I will agree that the 92-95 Cowboys were much better all around like you mention. The 92-93 Cowboys were the best team ever! Period!

    But Troy was also better than Tony. Troy would have this team better, but not what 92-93 had. >>



    I agree Troy was better but this year's OL would have him knocked out of every game w/ a concussion. A younger Aikman could somewhat move in the pocket but nothing like Romo.
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  • dfr52dfr52 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭
    When Staubach won his first Super Bowl the Cowboys were loaded w/ talent. On offense he played w/ Wright, Niland, Neely, Hayes, Alworth, Ditka, Hill, Garrison, and Thomas (who was very good 1971). The defense had Lilly, Pugh, Andrie, Jordan, Howley, Adderly, Renfro, Green, Harris, and Watters. This years team has no where near as much talent and I don't think any of the teams Romo has played on even compares to the 1971 team. As fans we really need to forget about the 70's and 90's Cowboys when he judge Romo b/c he just doesn't have the talent around him like those teams had on offense and defense.
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    << <i>When Staubach won his first Super Bowl the Cowboys were loaded w/ talent. On offense he played w/ Wright, Niland, Neely, Hayes, Alworth, Ditka, Hill, Garrison, and Thomas (who was very good 1971). The defense had Lilly, Pugh, Andrie, Jordan, Howley, Adderly, Renfro, Green, Harris, and Watters. This years team has no where near as much talent and I don't think any of the teams Romo has played on even compares to the 1971 team. As fans we really need to forget about the 70's and 90's Cowboys when he judge Romo b/c he just doesn't have the talent around him like those teams had on offense and defense. >>



    Nah, those 70's Cowboys teams were very talented at all. Just look at how many HOFers they have from those years compared to the Steelers.

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  • Lee Roy Jordan, Chuck Howley, and Cliff Harris sure seemed like HOFers when they were playing. Kinda surprised that they aren't in yet.
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    Merry Christmas to all and, yes, indeed it is a Merry Christmas - the Dream Team has been officially put out of their misery and, for one week anyway, order is restored to the NFC East. I guess next Sunday, we will find out which team will have a very Happy New Year and which one won't......

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    << <i>Merry Christmas to all and, yes, indeed it is a Merry Christmas - the Dream Team has been officially put out of their misery and, for one week anyway, order is restored to the NFC East. I guess next Sunday, we will find out which team will have a very Happy New Year and which one won't...... >>



    As Cowboys fan it would be awesome if they made the Playoff but even an 8-8 record would be an improvement from last year. The Cowboys need to address the wholes they have in the line-up through the draft and Free Agency but I am excited to see how the team develops in the off season, especially the younger guys.
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  • As a die hard Cowboy fan I have mixed emotions about next weeks game with the Giant's. I for sure want to beat them. But at the same time feel that if you can't beat the Eaglets you don't deserve to go to the playoffs.......unbelievable.

    I just hope they fill those holes in the defense before Ware and some of the other really good defensive players get too old.

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    << <i>As a die hard Cowboy fan I have mixed emotions about next weeks game with the Giant's. I for sure want to beat them. But at the same time feel that if you can't beat the Eaglets you don't deserve to go to the playoffs.......unbelievable.

    I just hope they fill those holes in the defense before Ware and some of the other really good defensive players get too old.

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    The Cowboys had nothing to play for against the Eagles so I understand the loss but not the poor OL play. Free was the team's best OL last year but has really struggled this season.

    I agree on Ware and Ratliff who have 2-3 more great seasons in them before age begins to limit them.
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  • Romo had a team with what 14 pro bowl'ers just a couple years ago, most of which are still on the team....hard to say the team around Romo is the problem, although it's various centers can take a share of blame. Romo however just plain sucks...the sooner Jones understand this, the sooner you guys can look for another quarterback. I have never seen any qb perform as bad in the red zone as Romo continually has.
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    << <i>Romo had a team with what 14 pro bowl'ers just a couple years ago, most of which are still on the team....hard to say the team around Romo is the problem, although it's various centers can take a share of blame. Romo however just plain sucks...the sooner Jones understand this, the sooner you guys can look for another quarterback. I have never seen any qb perform as bad in the red zone as Romo continually has. >>



    I'll take Romo over most of the QB's out there. Unless I'm mistaken, the year they had 14 Pro Bowlers the defense played terrible against the Giants anthrod Crayton had a TD pass go through his hands. Romo has been fantastic for the Cowboys w/ many of their losses coming as a result of the defense failing to protect a lead. Over the course of this season Romo has shown to be a more consistent passer and can dominate when the OL protects him.

    I don't understand how Romo can take heat for losing games when he out performs the opposing QB or throws for multiple scores w/out an INT. Romo is doing more than his share to win games, the defense needs do to do their job in order for the Cowboys to be successful.
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  • I'm with MeteroriteGuy - I don't think Romo is surrounded by that bad of a team. Granted it is not the 1992 team Troy had. But he has good recievers and one of the best TE's in football in Whitten. The O-line is desent. He is not running for his life all the time and has time to throw most of the time. Most of the time when ho makes a bone-head play it is because he made a bad decision not running for his life.....in which case you have to eat the ball as a QB.....NOT try to make a play that is not there. He has the ability......just not the smarts yet.....and he has been around 6 years. You do the math. He has singlehandedly cost the Cowboys at least 4 games...maybe more. You can't put the Giant loss on the defense.......if he makes the pass to a wide open Austin the game is over...we win.

    I also blame him for the Jets game and the Detroit game. I mean his GAVE the game to Detroit...period!!! You can't blame the defense for a pick and six!!!!!!!
  • Jason Garrett has also given away two games (the Detroit game being one of them). I watched that game. And yes, Romo had a horrible second half. But, Detroit was three points down at the Dallas five yard line with a little over two minutes left. And did Garrett call time out? Nope. Did he expect Detroit not to at least score the field goal to tie? So, Detroit scored with 44 seconds left and Romo had to lead the team down the field for a touchdown. If he had two minutes, his chances would have been MUCH better.
    Garrett also gave away the Cardinals game by icing his kicker. If you want to talk about a bonehead, Garrett is right at the top.
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    << <i>I'm with MeteroriteGuy - I don't think Romo is surrounded by that bad of a team. Granted it is not the 1992 team Troy had. But he has good recievers and one of the best TE's in football in Whitten. The O-line is desent. He is not running for his life all the time and has time to throw most of the time. Most of the time when ho makes a bone-head play it is because he made a bad decision not running for his life.....in which case you have to eat the ball as a QB.....NOT try to make a play that is not there. He has the ability......just not the smarts yet.....and he has been around 6 years. You do the math. He has singlehandedly cost the Cowboys at least 4 games...maybe more. You can't put the Giant loss on the defense.......if he makes the pass to a wide open Austin the game is over...we win.

    I also blame him for the Jets game and the Detroit game. I mean his GAVE the game to Detroit...period!!! You can't blame the defense for a pick and six!!!!!!! >>



    The skilled positions have always been fine but the OL has always been very inconsistent and too often Romo has to escape pressure to make a play. Overall the Cowboys aren't losing games b/c of their offense but the poor play of the defense.
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    << <i>Jason Garrett has also given away two games (the Detroit game being one of them). I watched that game. And yes, Romo had a horrible second half. But, Detroit was three points down at the Dallas five yard line with a little over two minutes left. And did Garrett call time out? Nope. Did he expect Detroit not to at least score the field goal to tie? So, Detroit scored with 44 seconds left and Romo had to lead the team down the field for a touchdown. If he had two minutes, his chances would have been MUCH better.
    Garrett also gave away the Cardinals game by icing his kicker. If you want to talk about a bonehead, Garrett is right at the top. >>



    I agree, Garrett has made his share of mistakes to cost the Cowboys games. I am not worried now but the same mistakes can't be reoccuring next season.
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    << <i>Jason Garrett has also given away two games (the Detroit game being one of them). I watched that game. And yes, Romo had a horrible second half. But, Detroit was three points down at the Dallas five yard line with a little over two minutes left. And did Garrett call time out? Nope. Did he expect Detroit not to at least score the field goal to tie? So, Detroit scored with 44 seconds left and Romo had to lead the team down the field for a touchdown. If he had two minutes, his chances would have been MUCH better.
    Garrett also gave away the Cardinals game by icing his kicker. If you want to talk about a bonehead, Garrett is right at the top. >>



    He gave away 3 games. He took the ball out of Romo's hands and went conservative by calling 3 running plays at the end of the Pat's game. Obviously the end result was a punt and a subsequent Brady game winning td drive.
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