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A large part of gold's allure is its rarity. Even so, it's still 1000 times more abundant on Earth than it should be. Boffins at University of Bristol now have an explanation for this phenomenon: it came from ouuuuter spaaaaaace!
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A large part of gold's allure is its rarity. Even so, it's still 1000 times more abundant on Earth than it should be. Boffins at University of Bristol now have an explanation for this phenomenon: it came from ouuuuter spaaaaaace!
    terminal bombardment >>



    Geez, I thought it was common knowledge, that gold cannot form naturally on this planet & that it must have had celestial origins.
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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    Came from the heart of a star is more like it. Yes, and I'm avoiding the golden shower reference, what that intentional on your part?
  • Au only formed via supernova, which means there must have been a supernova in the past near here because the planets have elements heavier than iron. The study solves a long-standing problem. All the gold on Earth when it was molten should have wound up in the core due to its great density. Study shows that when the Earth's crust was solidifying, meteor falls distributed Gold on the crust, and it was solid enough not to travel to the core, as the original, primordial gold did. Price of gold will drop tremendously when smoebody starts mining an asteroid. They have a gold assay better than any gold mine on Earth! Of course, if you think the Earth is only 6000 years old (Perry, Bachman) it is still a puzzle as to why we can mine gold today. They are entitled to their own opinions, but NOT entitled to their own FACTS.
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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Au only formed via supernova, which means there must have been a supernova in the past near here because the planets have elements heavier than iron. The study solves a long-standing problem. All the gold on Earth when it was molten should have wound up in the core due to its great density. Study shows that when the Earth's crust was solidifying, meteor falls distributed Gold on the crust, and it was solid enough not to travel to the core, as the original, primordial gold did. Price of gold will drop tremendously when smoebody starts mining an asteroid. They have a gold assay better than any gold mine on Earth! Of course, if you think the Earth is only 6000 years old (Perry, Bachman) it is still a puzzle as to why we can mine gold today. They are entitled to their own opinions, but NOT entitled to their own FACTS. >>



    I really hate it when people claim Christians say the Earth is 6,000 years old. That is absolute horse-manure. We don't know the age of the Earth, the Bible does not tell us. All "age of earth" science is theory. No human was around to prove it. 6,000 or 6 billion...it's all nonsense. Who cares!

    Show me the video where Bachman or Perry say the Earth is 6,000 years old. Bet you can't.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All "age of earth" science is theory. No human was around to prove it. 6,000 or 6 billion...it's all nonsense. Who cares!

    yikes! Really?

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe in the theory of evolution, but those who believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible, Noah's Ark and such, don't necessarily have to conflict with science.

    I'm gonna leave it at that, and suffice to say the far left liberal media will do anything and everything they can to denigrate any Republican candidate no matter what they believe...and it's already started.
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's now a horse race between getting gold out of the earth's molten core or from sea water.

    I think before that happens we'll have figured out the global warming/cooling issue. image


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just got my degree in alchemy and have been working in my basement on turning rocks into gold...thus far I've been unsuccessful, but I feel like I am very close. image
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've come to realize that there are things much smaller than I can see with my naked eyes or with magnification, and likewise there are great celestial objects that I cannot see due to the limitations of technology. I don't question the existance of a photon or a quark, even though I've never seen one up close and personal.

    I marvel at the numbskulls who try to dictate what everyone else (besides them) ought to be doing with the way we live, based on bits & pieces of a much larger picture - and they have the unmitigated gall to call it "science". To me, that is where the truly ignorant live.

    Getting back to the externally supplied gold via supernova question - what makes anyone think that the gold would have to go directly to the core of a molten earth? Take a look around. It's not a homogeneous mass, cooling under carefully-controlled conditions.

    The earth is a large enough chunk of matter that to get a perfect distribution of minerals from-the-core-to-the-crust during a cooling cycle would in fact require "a miracle". You can get a better distribution in a crucible, fine. Now, scale it up a few hundred million times over. The physics are not the same.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing how so many jump on a theory when offered ..... There is zero proof of this 'extraterrestrial' gold. It is an interesting theory, but no more than that. I do not doubt that some gold may indeed have been deposited by meteors. That is as far as it goes. The tumult of a forming planet, the geophysical throes experienced as it cools/ages, all have effects on elemental distribution. Interesting, but that is all the empty (totally unsubstantiated) theory is at this time. How about volcano's that spew molten lava for miles, along with rivers of the stuff.... Think there could be gold in there?? Cheers, RickO
  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭
    It all comes down to ones beliefs. It's a theory that we got all our water from comets and meteors which, from a cosmic view point, makes sense. Planets, when being formed, are hot, barren pieces of rock and metal. Given MILLIONS and Millions, not thousands, of years to cool and be bombarded by objects, they slowly get their water. Once again, just a theory as I wasn't there. The same principle could be how we got our gold. Certain meteorites are VERY rich in metals so, who knows? Maybe it is how we got a lot of our gold.
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  • From a thinly veiled sexual reference in the title, this thread has exposed how little some members believe in Science. The theory about gold coming from meteor bombardment was PROVEN recently, that is why it was in the news. You are welcome to your opinion on politics, PM's, AT vs NT, and a whole lot of other topics. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Proven, no further theorizing needed. Ricko- lava flow may contain gold, that gold came from meteors. Lava does not come from Earth's core.
    To the folks who say, "I don't know, since I wasn't there.", I guess Japan and Antartica is just a theory to me, since I was never in either of those places.

    I like you guys, but science is not your stong suit.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rudy, I have yet to see incontrovertible proof that ALL the gold came from meteorites. If you read my post, I agreed that some may have arrived in this manner. However, it is NOT proven that ALL gold came from space. It is postulated... period. Cheers, RickO
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bling came from space: Earth's gold and platinum arrived in a meteor shower that lasted 200MILLION years

    Read more:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2034667/Earths-gold-platinum-arrived-meteor-shower-lasting-200MILLION-years.html#ixzz1XfkIgBbP

    Quote from the article:

    Rock samples found in Greenland - which were formed at the Earth's formation - contained a marginally higher ratio of the tungsten isotope 182W compared to more modern rock.

    Therefore, modern rock must have come from a meteorite shower which proves today's gold and platinum deposits came from outer space


    LOL. What astounding logic!

    Don't you think that any real scientist would stop a sec and ask himself, "why would rock samples found in Greenland have a marginally higher ratio of tungsten 182W compared to more modern rock?", instead of immediately concluding that the Earth was struck by a gigantic gold and platinum meteor about 4 billion years ago?

    This is what passes for science now? If you don't think this is nothing more than part of an agenda to get more free endowment money, then I fear for your future - if you are that gullible.

    This is a classic example of putting expensive instrumentation into the hands of idiots with an agenda.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rudy, I have yet to see incontrovertible proof that ALL the gold came from meteorites. If you read my post, I agreed that some may have arrived in this manner. However, it is NOT proven that ALL gold came from space. It is postulated... period. Cheers, RickO

    He's not saying ALL gold on earth got here by meteors, he's saying the amount in the crust may have been supplemented by meteor impacts over time. There is a well documented Iridium supplementation from the Yucatan impact which caused mass extinctions ~60 million years ago that affected the dinasours, among others.

    the source of all elements except hydrogen is from stellar activity, and most trans-iron elements are created during nova and supernova events (exploding stars), which distribute the elements among particle clouds that eventually, over billions of years, coalesce into spinning discs form which new stars and planetary systems form

    it is these second-and higher generation star systems which contain carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and all the other elements of which planetary systems, and their life, are composed.

    the atoms and molecules in your body were once in a primordial sun. so were the atoms of gold and silver in your safe.

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  • Rudy, I have yet to see incontrovertible proof that ALL the gold came from meteorites

    Just the mineable gold in Earth's crust
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  • Don't you think that any real scientist would stop a sec and ask himself, "why would rock samples found in Greenland have a marginally higher ratio of tungsten 182W compared to more modern rock?", instead of immediately concluding that the Earth was struck by a gigantic gold and platinum meteor about 4 billion years ago?

    You offer and I see no proof of an immediate conclusion. I see a lot of work went into proving this. You also offer no proof of a 'gigantic gold and platinum meteor'. The article involves millions of impacts over millions of years. Did you even read it? Are you a lawyer? You should be the way you can twist that truth around.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You offer and I see no proof of an immediate conclusion.

    Gee, I thought that's what it says in the exerpt that I cut & pasted.

    You also offer no proof of a 'gigantic gold and platinum meteor'.

    I misread the article that I referenced; it said "a mammoth meteorite shower" over 200 million years. I apologize for my mistake.

    Frankly, if Perry or Bachman had stated anything to the effect that the earth is only 6,000 years old - I'd give it about the same odds of being accurate as these guys. By the way, where is your documentation on that? You posted it as fact.

    They may have put alot of work into pumping up their own careers (on someone else's dime), but what makes you so sure that they aren't just another couple environmental crackpots with a money agenda?



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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Rudy, I have yet to see incontrovertible proof that ALL the gold came from meteorites

    Just the mineable gold in Earth's crust >>


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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is very interesting how a subject about "what does it appear happened" "how might it have happened", and "what could happen in the future?"

    quickly becomes a discussion of "who thinks what? who said what? What are the political and religious implications?? how can I use "reducto ad absurdum" to make your statements seem silly???"

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  • Correct. Gold is ONLY made during & in Supernovas & therefore could ONLY come from an extraterrrestrial source.
  • They may have put alot of work into pumping up their own careers (on someone else's dime), but what makes you so sure that they aren't just another couple environmental crackpots with a money agenda?

    Research Scientists, indeed, do pump up their careers on somebody else's dime. If they are not doing good research, there will be no more dimes in the future.
    UK Earth Scientists funded by UK government and German research foundation...guess its somebody else's euro. American research has been severly curtailed by narrow minds. Ask NASA, shame that an organization that gave us so much is being trounced on.

    Age of the Earth? I get $100 per hour to explain my proof to you. Various studies all lead to the same approximate age.

    Yes, I have seen a volcano. They are a crustal phenomena. Any gold in their lava came from those meteorites.

    As I have said before, I like you guys. I enjoy reading your opinions on things that you know about. Well, I know a lot about science and critical thinking. This is my last reply on this one, my friends.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Au only formed via supernova, which means there must have been a supernova in the past near here because the planets have elements heavier than iron. The study solves a long-standing problem. All the gold on Earth when it was molten should have wound up in the core due to its great density. Study shows that when the Earth's crust was solidifying, meteor falls distributed Gold on the crust, and it was solid enough not to travel to the core, as the original, primordial gold did. Price of gold will drop tremendously when smoebody starts mining an asteroid. They have a gold assay better than any gold mine on Earth! Of course, if you think the Earth is only 6000 years old (Perry, Bachman) it is still a puzzle as to why we can mine gold today. They are entitled to their own opinions, but NOT entitled to their own FACTS. >>



    I really hate it when people claim Christians say the Earth is 6,000 years old. That is absolute horse-manure. We don't know the age of the Earth, the Bible does not tell us. All "age of earth" science is theory. No human was around to prove it. 6,000 or 6 billion...it's all nonsense. Who cares!

    Show me the video where Bachman or Perry say the Earth is 6,000 years old. Bet you can't. >>




    Regardless of the inane political debate, I find it interesting that gold only attained "value" at roughly the same time as organized religion.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you mean right around the same time the Ancient Aliens visited Earth and "helped out" the naked apes?

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  • If they are not doing good research, there will be no more dimes in the future.

    Having worked for years in a major research lab, I can fully attest that hype pays better than "good" research.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Loosely, science is observation. Points of view change over time. Galileo & Copernicus, Newton, Einstein come to mind. Even Al Gore albeit cross-eyed. image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Regardless of the inane political debate, I find it interesting that gold only attained "value" at roughly the same time as organized religion. >>



    Paper didn't start to achieve universal value until around 1690's England. I'd give the nod to gold/organized religion vs. fiat/organized govt. image

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  • << <i>

    << <i>Au only formed via supernova, which means there must have been a supernova in the past near here because the planets have elements heavier than iron. The study solves a long-standing problem. All the gold on Earth when it was molten should have wound up in the core due to its great density. Study shows that when the Earth's crust was solidifying, meteor falls distributed Gold on the crust, and it was solid enough not to travel to the core, as the original, primordial gold did. Price of gold will drop tremendously when smoebody starts mining an asteroid. They have a gold assay better than any gold mine on Earth! Of course, if you think the Earth is only 6000 years old (Perry, Bachman) it is still a puzzle as to why we can mine gold today. They are entitled to their own opinions, but NOT entitled to their own FACTS. >>



    I really hate it when people claim Christians say the Earth is 6,000 years old. That is absolute horse-manure. We don't know the age of the Earth, the Bible does not tell us. All "age of earth" science is theory. No human was around to prove it. 6,000 or 6 billion...it's all nonsense. Who cares!

    Show me the video where Bachman or Perry say the Earth is 6,000 years old. Bet you can't. >>



    To help on this issue take a look at The Bible 2nd Peter 3rd chapter 3rd-6th verse with special note to the 1st part of verse 5.
    This is an eye opener for most Christians as well as to those interested in Gods Creation of the Earth.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Regardless of the inane political debate, I find it interesting that gold only attained "value" at roughly the same time as organized religion. >>



    Paper didn't start to achieve universal value until around 1690's England. I'd give the nod to gold/organized religion vs. fiat/organized govt. image

    roadrunner >>



    But human labor and innovation has been valued since the beginning of mankind. I'll give the nod to the power of the people.imageimage
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Regardless of the inane political debate, I find it interesting that gold only attained "value" at roughly the same time as organized religion. >>



    Paper didn't start to achieve universal value until around 1690's England. I'd give the nod to gold/organized religion vs. fiat/organized govt. image

    roadrunner >>



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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because life was so much better in the middle ages than it is now?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's keep this thread logical with science and leave out the mystics and supernatural - we need to deal with what is real, not imagined. Cheers, RickO
  • Ah I sincerely thought that todays so-called sciences (theories) were all mostly based in mysticism, or is it elevated intelligent quackery.

    So much of it has been proved false as time has elapsed and as sure as we exist today the falacies of most all current so-called scientific theories will

    like wise be proven false or at the least flawed in a significant manner.
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  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    Forget the gold from outer space thing...


    check this out:

    Diamond Planet
  • CyStaterCyStater Posts: 681 ✭✭✭
    Nevermind. Not getting into this kind of debate.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    True science always allows prevailing theories to be questioned. Modern science has long escaped the bonds of mysticism. The majority of people, on the other hand, still wallow in superstition, myth, unfounded opinion and ridiculous beliefs that only serve to prove they are not far removed from the darkness of the cave. Cheers, RickO
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