Ok so whats so special about this graded ASE?

ibex66

Twice market price for a graded 2011 ASE, does a low mint box label really make that much difference?

2011 ASE MS70

ricko

It does to many people.... status symbol, bragging rights - at least to those who do not understand what it really means. Cheers, RickO

derryb

<< <i>Twice market price for a graded 2011 ASE, does a low mint box label really make that much difference?

Not to a buyer who knows what he is doing. I suspect these "fantasy" labels attract the newbies.

Phaethon

Why and for who does PCGS do this ?

Egger

Probably thought it had the W mint mark, but was just minted at W vs the whole san fran thing

19Lyds

With all the different Authorized Purchasers, exactly how do you determine that the coin came from "Box #49"? And if Box #49 was so freaking important for coin quality, why weren't all 500 in that box MS70?

According to the Freedom of Information Act which Lope208 received regarding the 2008/Rev 2007-W SAE's, each coin received 3 strikes and from the list which was provided, die #7328182 performed 17,355 strikes (the highest number in the list) for a total production of 5,785 coins.

Judging from that FOI letter, it takes quite a few dies to produce 25,000 SAE's or in the case of Box #49, 24,500 which to me simply reads as marketing drivel which simply cannot be related to coin quality.

But, collect what you want.

derryb

<< <i>Why and for who does PCGS do this ? >>


Large customers who are willing to pay for it.

derryb

<< <i>Probably thought it had the W mint mark, but was just minted at W vs the whole san fran thing >>


I am disappointed in PCGS for adding the W to the label even if it is in parenthesis. Type of thing you see with SEGS.

boucharda

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<< <i>Probably thought it had the W mint mark, but was just minted at W vs the whole san fran thing >>


I am disappointed in PCGS for adding the W to the label even if it is in parenthesis. Type of thing you see with SEGS. >>



I think when a company makes certain services and labels only available to the big boys it loses its perceived neutrality towards grading. I can't believe the (W)....the (S) is bad enough

I guess a company goes where the money leads....

19Lyds

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<< <i>Probably thought it had the W mint mark, but was just minted at W vs the whole san fran thing >>


I am disappointed in PCGS for adding the W to the label even if it is in parenthesis. Type of thing you see with SEGS. >>



I think when a company makes certain services and labels only available to the big boys it loses its perceived neutrality towards grading. I can't believe the (W)....the (S) is bad enough

I guess a company goes where the money leads.... >>

Well, on the bright side, this opens the door for all those "other" non-mintmarked SAE's to get graded as -(W) coins since West Point has been minting these exclusively since the late 90's if not sooner.

Kaelasdad

Ok, so they are adding a (W) to a non mintmarked coin--funny. They would not add (D) to the Washington Missing Edge coins--even when they came out of a Denver sealed brick--and even when a blind guy could tell the difference in the planchets from Denver vs Philadelphia.

So, PCGS, have we decided that we can now accurately determine where a coin was minted? may I now send in my (D) Washington missing edges I bought from Fred Weinberg, and get them accurately slabbed?

golfer72

Grading bullion coins is stupid!

Pokermandude

That's some expensive plastic!

mikeyg

Wow dont you guys ever watch the television marketeers?These things were big on the coin vault awhile back.They buy monster boxes from the mint,then determine from the paperwork what order that box was in the shipping out sequence and then get a TPG to give them a special label.Does it mean anything coin wise??NO NO and NO.Just a gimmick to get twice the going price from those who dont know.

Harry779

I'll give you $43.00 for it.

timber100

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<< <i>Probably thought it had the W mint mark, but was just minted at W vs the whole san fran thing >>


I am disappointed in PCGS for adding the W to the label even if it is in parenthesis. Type of thing you see with SEGS. >>



I think when a company makes certain services and labels only available to the big boys it loses its perceived neutrality towards grading. I can't believe the (W)....the (S) is bad enough

I guess a company goes where the money leads....[/q

57loaded

it only has one place to go, down.

WoodenJefferson

Auction description: With this early designation, this Eagle was struck while the mint dies were new, yielding the crispest image you can find in a MS70 Eagle

Total BS

GrumpyEd

What's next?
How about D and S cents from 1965-1967?

frnklnlvr

<< <i>Auction description: With this early designation, this Eagle was struck while the mint dies were new, yielding the crispest image you can find in a MS70 Eagle

Total BS >>



I was thinking the same thing!

derryb

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<< <i>Auction description: With this early designation, this Eagle was struck while the mint dies were new, yielding the crispest image you can find in a MS70 Eagle

Total BS >>



I was thinking the same thing! >>


A coin struck as the one millionth coin could theoretically be struck with a new die as the dies get changed after wear. Early designation only means the time frame in which it was submitted from its release date, not the amount of wear on the die. An early designation coin could easily be struck with a worn die, especially with bullion eagles that are being stamped in record numbers.

What's next, AM and PM labels for time of day struck?

fiveNdime

<< <i>Grading bullion coins is stupid! >>




<< <i>Type of thing you see with SEGS. >>


2008W - no W [i have that one] purchased below melt

Quartergoldeagle

<< <i>Grading bullion coins is stupid! >>




I agree waste of money ... Too many out there