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silver melt for pre 1965 coins
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If he was gonna go all out, why stop with just 3 L's?
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<< <i>Must be a post before the recent oil run-up. Great deal for the consumer.
silver melt for pre 1965 coins >>
Its actually a better deal for the gas station rather than the consumer. Melt on 90% is still about 24x. That makes 20 cents worth about $4.80. We arent paying that much for gas even here in Chicago! Is it over $5/gal where you live?
<< <i>DOLLLLLLLLLAR
If he was gonna go all out, why stop with just 3 L's? >>
i missed that...and took me a triple take.
i could pick a nit with "halfs" but why?
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Its actually a better deal for the gas station rather than the consumer. Melt on 90% is still about 24x. That makes 20 cents worth about $4.80. We arent paying that much for gas even here in Chicago! Is it over $5/gal where you live? >>
well, he is a businessman!
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<< <i>DOLLLLLLLLLAR
If he was gonna go all out, why stop with just 3 L's? >>
i missed that...and took me a triple take.
i could pick a nit with "halfs" but why? >>
Maybe his cardboard poster didn't have spell-check.
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Associated Press | Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:20 am | Comments
Word spread quickly about a Los Angeles gas station selling premium unleaded for $1.10-a-gallon, but it wasn't a promotion. The owner says the too-good-to-be-true price was a computer glitch that cost him $21,000.
Long lines snaked from the pumps at the Valero station in Wilmington on Sunday. Police were even called to control traffic.
The Torrance Daily Breeze reports that within four hours, about 7,000 gallons of premium were pumped at the discounted rate.
Station owner Kenny Nguyen says the attendant on duty was busy staffing the convenience store and register.
He says a price change didn't take, so the system defaulted to the $1.10 price _ a cut of more than $3 a gallon.
Nguyen hopes motorists who got the break come back and pay the real price.
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thats kinda high even here in So Cal
Steve
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<< <i>Must be a post before the recent oil run-up. Great deal for the consumer.
silver melt for pre 1965 coins >>
Its actually a better deal for the gas station rather than the consumer. Melt on 90% is still about 24x. That makes 20 cents worth about $4.80. We arent paying that much for gas even here in Chicago! Is it over $5/gal where you live? >>
I paid $4.99 gallon today in Chicago. The BP on Congress and Dearborn.
<< <i>$3.95/gal here in NW IN. After my 10% discount, I paid $3.56. STILL ridiculously too high. >>
Why do you think its too high? A gallon of gas in 1980 was about a buck. Today its 4 bucks. Just about everything else you can think of......with a few exceptions.....has gone up in price by a factor of 4x in the past 30 years. Why do you think gas should be immune?
<< <i>thats cool. i was watching some show on the gasoline shortage back in the 1970s. a gallon of regular gas was .53 cents ( and we were complaining ). i just smiled >>
That's because it went from .30 cents to .53 cents overnight and there was a "shortage." I was there, in line, hoping to get a few bucks worth for my "69" Camaro (which I wish I still had!!!).
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<< <i>$3.75 a gallon here in God's Country.......... Missouri!
Do you guys have to use the 15% ethanol yet? I heard it was going to start in the Central US and work out from there.
My Senior year in high school (1970) I pumped gas part time. It was 35 cents/gal then. I had a friend that had a VW Beetle. He could fill
it for about $3 and drive it for about 2 weeks.
Another customer would come in about every day driving his low hung Cadillac and get 50 cents of regular and a pack of Kools.
Phil, I wasn't working yet in 1980, but I now have a very comparable job/carrer as what my dad had in 1980. The difference is I am not earning 4 times what he was making then and I am doing the job of what it took 3 people to do in 1980.
By your logic, everything is ok if it is 4x what it was in 1980. Comparable wages from that time til now have not increased at 4x. That's why $3.95/gal gas is ridiculously too high.
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<< <i>Why do you think its too high? A gallon of gas in 1980 was about a buck. Today its 4 bucks. Just about everything else you can think of......with a few exceptions.....has gone up in price by a factor of 4x in the past 30 years. Why do you think gas should be immune?
Phil, I wasn't working yet in 1980, but I now have a very comparable job/carrer as what my dad had in 1980. The difference is I am not earning 4 times what he was making then and I am doing the job of what it took 3 people to do in 1980.
By your logic, everything is ok if it is 4x what it was in 1980. Comparable wages from that time til now have not increased at 4x. That's why $3.95/gal gas is ridiculously too high.
Link to 1980 pricing/earnings
New house was about $68k.....today its around $200k.......thats a factor of 3x.
Household income was $19,500...today its about $57,000......thats a factor of 2.9x
New car was $7,200....today its about $22,000....or a factor of about 3x
Gallon of gas was $1.19....today its around $4.00.....or a factor of about 3.4x
And remember.....oil is a FINITE material......in other words, there will be less oil on earth tomorrow then there was today, or last week, or 30 years ago. So its to be expected that its price would rise greatly compared to other entities. However, it hasnt....yet.
I just dont know why some people feel that oil/gas should somehow be immune from the ravages of inflation. Rich, im gonna let you in on a little secret. Before you and I leave this world, there will come a time in our lives where we could only DREAM of $5/gallon gas! Trust me on that one buddy. So dont cry about high gas prices......just be thankful its as cheap AND plentiful as it is currently. We will look back on these times and say....."do you remember when........".
Nat Gas is the answer, but no one wants to hear that yet. Maybe when gasoline is $8 for an extended period of time, our Govt. will force us to convert and people will finally start using alternatives
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>Gas is relatively cheap in the US compared to the rest of the developed world. MJ >>
People here keep forgetting that.
US gas: So cheap it hurts
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>Nat Gas is the answer, but no one wants to hear that yet. Maybe when gasoline is $8 for an extended period of time, our Govt. will force us to convert and people will finally start using alternatives >>
They are starting to force us to use alternative but rather than using their brains, they are thinking of so called "green" power, like highly subsidized ethanol (higher food prices, uses more energy than what it produces, lowers gas milage, very bad on boat motors and old vehicles), electric cars (electricity has to come from somewhere - mainly coal) and wind machines (as long as they are not in your backyard, they are fine except for the $3.00+ federal subsidy per kwh to make them competitive). The average electrical rate in the US is just over 10 cents per kwh and they want us to use $3.00+ power. Take away the subsidy and guess what folks. $4.00 gas will seem cheap!
<< <i>I know it doesn't make US residents feel any better but when gas is $3.50 a gallon in the US it's about $8.00 in Europe.
US gas: So cheap it hurts
MJ >>
And they dont have nearly the incomes. In Poland, gas costs about $5 a gallon, while income is about 1/3 that in the USA. Imagine paying $11 per gallon here.
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The sad thing is if those countries have the oil resources we have under our feet, they would jump at developing them rather than sitting on their hands like the US does.
<< <i>And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US.
The sad thing is if those countries have the oil resources we have under our feet, they would jump at developing them rather than sitting on their hands like the US does. >>
Why use up our own resources when the rest of the world still accepts our scam.....the USD?
If you and your neighbor both had a limited amount of propane......and your neighbor was willing to trade his propane to you for green sheets of paper that you photocopied in your basement.....then why would you ever consider using your own propane as long as he agreed to trade his valuable commodity for your useless paper?
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<< <i>And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US.
The sad thing is if those countries have the oil resources we have under our feet, they would jump at developing them rather than sitting on their hands like the US does. >>
Why use up our own resources when the rest of the world still accepts our scam.....the USD?
If you and your neighbor both had a limited amount of propane......and your neighbor was willing to trade his propane to you for green sheets of paper that you photocopied in your basement.....then why would you ever consider using your own propane as long as he agreed to trade his valuable commodity for your useless paper? >>
You forgot the part about your neighbor is using your green sheets of paper to buy everything you own.
<< <i>And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US.
The sad thing is if those countries have the oil resources we have under our feet, they would jump at developing them rather than sitting on their hands like the US does. >>
Most? Which ones? The US falls typically falls around #7 to #20 in standard of living/quality of life polls globally. All those ahead of the US have more expensive gas. Some 3 fold. A lot of countries that have expensive gas on that list have a high standard of living. Some of them are even oil/comodity countries. The UK and Norway jump out at me. Their petro products are highly taxed. They are also out of necessity more frugal with their usage.
Most of the poorest countries globally and some with vast oil reserves litters the list with the cheapest gas. ( the second list)
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US.
The sad thing is if those countries have the oil resources we have under our feet, they would jump at developing them rather than sitting on their hands like the US does. >>
Why use up our own resources when the rest of the world still accepts our scam.....the USD?
If you and your neighbor both had a limited amount of propane......and your neighbor was willing to trade his propane to you for green sheets of paper that you photocopied in your basement.....then why would you ever consider using your own propane as long as he agreed to trade his valuable commodity for your useless paper? >>
You forgot the part about your neighbor is using your green sheets of paper to buy everything you own. >>
Such as?
<< <i>Such as? >>
Well, first come to mind are all the oil companies. Do you really think US investors own a controlling share in these companies. In fact, just about all energy related industries have been bought with oily USD's. Real Estate is another. Sure, they can't buy federal lands YET, but the oil money is being use to buy property here in the US. You don't really think they are sitting around on a huge stack of US $100 bills, do you?
<< <i>The US falls typically falls around #7 to #20 in standard of living/quality of life polls globally >>
Link your polls. If you are talking about the HID (The Human Development Index (HDI) is a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education and standards of living for countries worldwide), the US is 4th. Norway is the only European County above the US and they are #1 as of 2010.
#7 in quality of living Check out the six ahead of us.
made the top 20 here
From The EconomistWe are number 13! see page 4. I'm sure we passes Ireland this year,
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>I noticed you didn't link anything so I will take it easy on you.10 best places to life No US cities make it. Honolulu comes in best a #31 for the US. Please check out this link. It's an eye openerTop 50
#7 in quality of living Check out the six ahead of us.
made the top 20 here
From The EconomistWe are number 13! see page 4. I'm sure we passes Ireland this year, >>
"Ten best places to LIFE?" I can tell that link is goofy without even opening it (Ah yes, CNBC - I see now).
Here is your links:
HID
HID - United Nations
I would take the United Nations over a New agency or a report selling Real Estate in other countries.
"Vienna retains the top spot as the city with the world’s best quality of living" - If you don't mind living on the banks of a sewer and in the middle of a tourist trap.
<< <i>How much did 512K RAM computing power and 80 Gb of memory cost in 1980? >>
no such animal in 1980, besides RAM and (main) memory are considered the same.
FWIW my first was 100MB HDD, 128 or 256 RAM, running windows 3.1 and it was something like $3k in 1986,
storage that big in 1980???
<And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US>
I ask again,....... and most, IF NOT all places listed that have a lower standard of living than we do here in the US. Name them. We can debate them one by one from there.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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VIENNA
AUSTRIA
108.6
2
ZURICH
SWITZERLAND
108
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Coins101 wrote- << And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US>>
Well, here are the top fifty (1- 50) cities in the world in regards to quality of life compiled by the Mercer Report.
Every single city on this list pays more then there US counterparts for gasoline yet retain a higher quality of life. MJ
GENEVA
VANCOUVER
AUCKLAND
DUSSELDORF
FRANKFURT
MUNICH
BERN
SYDNEY
COPENHAGEN
WELLINGTON
AMSTERDAM
NETHERLANDS
OTTAWA
BRUSSELS
TORONTO
BERLIN
MELBOURNE
LUXEMBOURG
STOCKHOLM
PERTH
MONTREAL
HAMBURG
NURNBURG
OSLO
CANBERRA
DUBLIN
CALGARY
SINGAPORE
STUTTGART
HONOLULU
SAN FRANCISCO
PARIS
HELSINKI
BRISBANE
BOSTON
LYON
LONDON
TOKYO
MILAN
KOBE
YOKOHAMA
BARCELONA
LISBON
CHICAGO
WASHINGTON
MADRID
NEW YORK CITY
SEATTLE
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I know a few people who have moved from England to the US and they can't believe the size of house they can buy, how certain consumables are cheaper and, of course, how cheap gas is here.
As of Vancouver BC being #1 in the Americas (according to the UK - Bias???), I haven't lived there but I have been there many times. I know I would not move there based upon my visits. But, I am a small city type of guy.
2. Iran 40 cents
3. Saudi Arabia 45 cents
4. Libya 50 cents
5. Swaziland 54 cents
6. Qatar 73 cents
7. Bahrain 81 cents
8. Egypt 89 cents
9. Kuwait 90 cents
10. Seychelles 98 cents
44. United States $3.45
isn't this the list...cheap gas lower standard of living? or am i too confused by semantics to help here?
The only place i'd consider is the Seychelles and a meal with the Duke and Duchess on their honeymoon.
Coins101 wrote- " And most, if not all of those places listed have a lower standard of living than what we do here in the US"
Well, here are the top fifty (ranked in order) cities in the world in regards to quality of living compiled by the Mercer Report.
Every single city on this list pays more then there US counterpart for gasoline yet retain a higher quality of living.
GENEVA
VANCOUVER
AUCKLAND
DUSSELDORF
FRANKFURT
MUNICH
BERN
SYDNEY
COPENHAGEN
WELLINGTON
AMSTERDAM
NETHERLANDS
OTTAWA
BRUSSELS
TORONTO
BERLIN
MELBOURNE
LUXEMBOURG
STOCKHOLM
PERTH
MONTREAL
HAMBURG
NURNBURG
OSLO
CANBERRA
DUBLIN
CALGARY
SINGAPORE
STUTTGART
HONOLULU
SAN FRANCISCO
PARIS
HELSINKI
BRISBANE
BOSTON
LYON
LONDON
TOKYO
MILAN
KOBE
YOKOHAMA
BARCELONA
LISBON
CHICAGO
WASHINGTON
MADRID
NEW YORK CITY
SEATTLE
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
You Mercer report has nothing to do with the quality of life but how much it costs to live there. Like I said, unless you are very wealthy, you standard of living is going to go down if you move to one of these places. You pile of silver isn't going to go as far in Vienna as it would in Seattle. So, if you can buy an 8,000 Sq Ft house in Seattle for the same price as a 500 Ft apartment in Veanna, who has the better standard of living?
Your list isfor the cheapest gas in the world. The US ranks 44th on that list. Please note the poor countries on that list. Please also note that a lot of them are oil countries as well.
For the most expensive gas in the world the US only ranks 108th most expensive. There are 107 countries that pay more for gas then we do.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>"Mercer conducts the ranking to help governments and multi-national companies compensate employees fairly when placing them on international assignments."
You Mercer report has nothing to do with the quality of life but how much it costs to live there. Like I said, unless you are very wealthy, you standard of living is going to go down if you move to one of these places. You pile of silver isn't going to go as far in Vienna as it would in Seattle. So, if you can buy an 8,000 Sq Ft house in Seattle for the same price as a 500 Ft apartment in Veanna, who has the better standard of living? >>
The Mercer Report is for quality of living, not standard of living which I clearly stated. You were complaining about the cost of gas in the US and all I said was we have it rather cheap. Then you say that the countries paying more for gas have a lower standard of living then the US.
That is simply not true.
Then you compare a 8,000 sq ft home in Seattle to that of a 500 ft apartment in Veanna ( Vienna right?). Well, I have lived in Seattle and rented temp housing in Vienna and I will tell you straight up you are FOS. Your comparison is baseless. A 8000 sq ft house in Seatlle is well well over seven figures. In Vienna you wouldn't need a million dollar apt to live nice. The same could be said in Seattle also.
I'm sorry I wasted so much of my time on this. It wont happen again. Shame on me.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Gas here is CHEAP!
<< <i>Did you guys get that last part? There are 107 countries that pay MORE for gas than we do. Thats 107.
Gas here is CHEAP! >>
Yes, gas is very cheap here but I believe there is a Federal tax in the works that will fix that.
<< <i> You were complaining about the cost of gas in the US >>
Where was I complaining about the cost of gas?
But, again, you are comparing Cities and I am comparing Countries. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!! The standard of living outside the big cities is a lot difference that inside the concrete jungle. You shouldn't limited yourself and get out to see the real world in these countries.
I give a crap about what it costs anywhere else in the world and how that cost relates to the wages of that Country.
I live in NW IN, just outside ot Chicago and the wages I make aren't 4x what my old man made in 1980 (which was the original comment against my accusation way back in this thread).
I care about what is happening here. I realize it's all connected to some degree, but what they pay in B-F-E has no baring on what I have to pay in a civilized, populated area such as where i'm at. It's too damn much when there are other viable "non-green" alternatives. It just aint expensive enough yet for a long enough period of time for Americans to say they've had it and accept other far more resourceful approaches to solving this problem.
There is absolutely no legit reason for these prices, none! The only reason it is what it is is because of SPECULATION. The same damn thing that has driven metals for a year now.
<< <i> live in NW IN, just outside ot Chicago and the wages I make aren't 4x what my old man made in 1980 (which was the original comment against my accusation way back in this thread). >>
You can thank the over abundance of cheap labor flooding the market for that. That is all I going to say as I'm "FOS" and I don't want to PO anyone else.