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MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778
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I was looking on heritage to get a better idea of the value for my Kennedy half that I recently bought. This thing is a freaking Monster. I took it to a coin show and some dealers had to pick there jaws off the ground. Any who, I found it on Heritage. Horrible picture but still..........ONLY $69!?!?image Boy I wish I would have gotten it at that price! I was so relieved to get it at the price I did! I guess it just goes to show what a difference an accurate picture can make! I thought it was kind of funny considering one member here offered me $850 for it. Any other reasons besides poor pictures you guys can think of?

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29112&Lot_No=22144#Photo

thanks for looking

Jon

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  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭✭
    LInk didn't work, crap.

    The pic is kinda dark, so I can't tell much about it. Looks like it could have some nice color, though. What did it go for?
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is kinda funny that you didn't accept the $850 offer. Try finding a matching offer.

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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    heritage pic sucks
    image

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You turned down $850? Wow. Isn't that a $100 coin, maybe a little more if eye appeal is off the charts?
    Lance.
    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    sometimes the auction house pics work against them, in this case they were your best friend!

    you got a great deal, wish deals like these came along daily, we would all have it made image

    great pickupimage
    image

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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778
    Coins not for sale thats why I didn't except the offer. Matter fact, it has all ready been cracked out and sent to NGC. I got the coin for $412 on Ebay. It ended at noon on a monday or else I think it would have went for more.
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis >>

    That was really dumb. Sorry.
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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778


    << <i>Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis >>



    Because I love Stars!
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  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis >>

    That was really dumb. Sorry. >>



    I don't care...I would buy this coin in a PCGS holder. I wouldn't even consider it in any NGC holder. Star, plus, fancy label doesn't do anything to me.

    Edited to add: maybe if I wanted to sell it, as the market does seem to care. But personally, no.

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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778


    << <i>

    << <i>Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis >>

    That was really dumb. Sorry. >>



    I send all of the coins I want to sell to PCGS because they get the strongest prices.I dont have anything against either grading company. I like them both! I just prefer to have the coins I am keeping in a NGC holder. Its not that big of a deal I dont think.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Why did you crack it and why NGC?

    Dennis >>

    That was really dumb. Sorry. >>



    The good news is....Its not your coin! I send all of the coins I want to sell to PCGS because they get the strongest prices.I dont have anything against either grading company. I like them both! I just prefer to have the coins I am keeping in a NGC holder. Its not that big of a deal I dont think. >>

    Please share the grade when it comes back.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I send all of the coins I want to sell to PCGS because they get the strongest prices.I dont have anything against either grading company. I like them both! I just prefer to have the coins I am keeping in a NGC holder. Its not that big of a deal I dont think. >>



    Somehow I get the feeling you'll think it is a big deal if NGC only gives it a 65 grade. But, it's your coin!image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778


    << <i>

    << <i>I send all of the coins I want to sell to PCGS because they get the strongest prices.I dont have anything against either grading company. I like them both! I just prefer to have the coins I am keeping in a NGC holder. Its not that big of a deal I dont think. >>



    Somehow I get the feeling you'll think it is a big deal if NGC only gives it a 65 grade. But, it's your coin!image >>



    Wish I knew how to search the archives here, I am pretty sure you are the one that had a $600 and something snipe ready for the coin. Maybe thats where the hostility is coming from?
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I for one think the value was closer to the 69$ price then the 400$ one in PCGS plastic but in an untrusted NGC holder were really talking about melt factoring into the new price.
  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778


    << <i>I for one think the value was closer to the 69$ price then the 400$ one in PCGS plastic but in an untrusted NGC holder were really talking about melt factoring into the new price. >>


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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I for one think the value was closer to the 69$ price then the 400$ one in PCGS plastic but in an untrusted NGC holder were really talking about melt factoring into the new price. >>



    That's an unfair claim. My experience is that NGC actually calls more coins AT than PCGS.
  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778
    Here is the sellers photo
    image
  • quattrocoinsquattrocoins Posts: 1,881


    << <i>Matter fact, it has all ready been cracked out and sent to NGC. I got the coin for $412 on Ebay. >>



    You should edit the title to "Wanna read something crazy".

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  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭


    << <i>Here is the sellers photo
    image >>



    If the coin looks like the photo or better then I would like to think that a kennedy half collector would be willing to lay down some good coin for it. I know us franklin addicts would! Psssst I like stars too image
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting coin.
    For under $80, I would be a buyer with "fun money".
    For over $80 (up to $200), it would need to really be "fun money".
    Above that, and it is pure "enjoy it if you have the money to throw around...you make a lot, have a lot saved, no bills, etc".

    You like it, more power to ya. I haven't agreed with some of the coins you have posted, but I also haven't seen you whine about being buried in them.

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just seeing the pic above my post, I would not have cracked it out. I would have kept it in the PCGS holder, and got more money out of it when I went to sell.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jon, I really hope this works out for you. That latest image is not inspiring.

    Choose the TPG you like. But I am very surprised you cracked it out. That $412 purchase will be worth a lot less, raw or in a details holder.
    Lance.
    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no issue with the price you paid for the coin or the amount turned down for the coin. However, it was quite risky to crack it out prior to sending it to NGC, but that is only my opinion.
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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778
    Tom and Lance- I can see that point, I would be bummed if it got a details grade. Unless of course it said something like.... UNC Details * (JK of course)
  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭


    << <i>Tom and Lance- I can see that point, I would be bummed if it got a details grade. Unless of course it said something like.... UNC Details * (JK of course) >>



    Pics are nothing like in hand but judging from the pattern of the toning im a 100% sure (that's right) it will holder no problems image. Will it get the star you may ask? If it looks like the pic you posted, im 100% sure again it will image.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Tom and Lance- I can see that point, I would be bummed if it got a details grade. Unless of course it said something like.... UNC Details * >>

    imageimage
    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I send all of the coins I want to sell to PCGS because they get the strongest prices.I dont have anything against either grading company. I like them both! I just prefer to have the coins I am keeping in a NGC holder. Its not that big of a deal I dont think. >>



    Somehow I get the feeling you'll think it is a big deal if NGC only gives it a 65 grade. But, it's your coin!image >>



    Wish I knew how to search the archives here, I am pretty sure you are the one that had a $600 and something snipe ready for the coin. Maybe thats where the hostility is coming from? >>



    Uh, no. I don't collect 1964 Kennedy Halfs, even when they're neon. Not even if they're Accented Hair Proofs. Not even if they're Proof 69 Deep Cameo. If you want to equate a subjective opinion with hostility, feel free. Enjoy the coin as a $412 warm fuzzy. After all, it's your coin. image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it has a fingerprint on it. Since when do 66's have fingerprints?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    you probably should take the 850 offer.........
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  • MonstavetMonstavet Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    If the picture is accurate, the color is something really special. Very unusual to see so much green, in my experience. It does look NT to me and I can see a lot of folks bidding crazy money on it - not me personally, but there is still a huge market for crazy toners. Remember those two Franklins last week that went for moon money on Teletrade. To each his own. At the end of the day, I don't care for the fingerprints on the coin, but that is just personal preference. Easy to look past them for spectacular toning, I reckon.

    I am perplexed by the crackout and resubmit approach. If you prefer it in NGC, that is fine, but why not just a direct crossover?

    Enjoy it, it is pretty unique.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I for one think the value was closer to the 69$ price then the 400$ one in PCGS plastic but in an untrusted NGC holder were really talking about melt factoring into the new price. >>


    That's an unfair claim. My experience is that NGC actually calls more coins AT than PCGS. >>



    I think there are more then germs of truth in Will's statement.

    To an earlier statement above I've seen 67's with a finger print.............

    I'm a sucker for star's also BUT, I wouldn't have cracked this. I would have crossed it if I went the NGC route. I'm guessing it will come back a 65*. Just a hunch. Let us know!

    I know most don't care about the star thing but they do have a following just the same.

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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778
    Good thing I have thick skin image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find the entire issue to be spectacularly unbelievable.... not questioning the veracity, merely the logic. Cheers, RickO
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its not always about the money guys. Sometimes it is all about collecting.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ditto, and glad you like it though. Thank goodness you do not appear to collect coins in my area...
    Gonna leave that NT/AT debate behind since IMO nearly seems to pass as NT. Suffice to say sulfas/sulfurs
    have been good to the value of many coins...
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    The image looks really juiced. I'm sure it has some nice rainbow toning, but about $100 coin for me.

    I would have never cracked from pcgs holder????
    "It is what it is."
  • hhmag70hhmag70 Posts: 2,107


    << <i>you probably should take the 850 offer......... >>



    I agree, then you could pay back what you owe.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Good thing I have thick skin image >>



    I was thinking that exact thing while reading the replies.

    only thing that matters here is its your coin and your happy with what your doing with it.
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Good thing I have thick skin image >>



    I was thinking that exact thing while reading the replies.

    only thing that matters here is its your coin and your happy with what your doing with it. >>



    I don't disagree or object to the above statement. I do disagree with someone bringing KoolAid here and expecting everyone to drink it.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • MonstarcoinsMonstarcoins Posts: 778


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Good thing I have thick skin image >>



    I was thinking that exact thing while reading the replies.

    only thing that matters here is its your coin and your happy with what your doing with it. >>



    I don't disagree or object to the above statement. I do disagree with someone bringing KoolAid here and expecting everyone to drink it. >>



    Who brought Koolaid?
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    ....I would have bid 600$ for the coin - and wouldn't of broke it out ...wouldn't even consider doing that

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