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If anyone is curious about the MICHAEL JORDAN rookie PSA 8 that was returned...

PSA deemed under the "Grade Guarantee" policy, that the '8' was INDEED the correct grade for this particular card. They said the back, WAS NOT paper loss, but was rather a 'print defect' that is acceptable for this particular issue in this particular grade. Which suits me fine, because I sold it for $75 more than I sold it for on the BST board, and the buyer LOVED the card!.....


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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    But, but they all said you was a bads bads man for selling that card. image


    Good to hear back that PSA says it is good to go.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    100
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>100 >>



    650
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
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  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>and the buyer LOVED the card!..... >>



    It's ok to love your cards...as long as you don't.......LOVE your cards! imageimageimage
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That card looks fine to me for a PSA 8. When I read the original thread I thought the back must have been awful.

    Glad things worked out for you and those on this board that talked a ton of smack need to eat their words.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    It's ok Dpeck.....some people don't have anything better to do than talk smack.....makes them feel superior......you and I know the deal however....

    Enjoy!

    Michael Jordan talking smack!
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    That's what you get.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I'll eat one word, that's about it.


    How about................Revisionist.


    Tastes great.




    Good for you.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    How about this one.....PREJUDICE!!!

    Hmmm....yummy!! You want ketchup with yours??
  • I'm not much of a basketball fan, but Bird is better.

    Dave
  • Always keepin' me entertained! LOL...

    Glad it all worked out and the grade is justified.
    Miconelegacy Auctions
    "Live everyday, don't throw it away"
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Bobby

    This is not my first rodeo.


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    Good for you.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say just be glad you got the card sold and put this issue to rest. Congrats on moving it to an excited buyer and be done.


  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bobby

    This is not my first rodeo.


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    Steve, WTF?

    We need commandos, scuba, gadgets for god sake
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  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not much of a basketball fan, but Bird is better.

    Dave >>




    I will second that!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is not my first rodeo. >>



    lol...Steve...that is good to know!! You have been here once or twice, eh? Some people act like this is their first time....
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    What proof do we have that Bobby returned this card to PSA? His WORD? Thats what got us to this point.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    Stop trying to please these people...

    PLEASE!!

    row your own boat!!


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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What proof do we have that Bobby returned this card to PSA? His WORD? Thats what got us to this point. >>




    1 1 15965017 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
    2 1 17451233 VERY GOOD 3 1888 N2 ALLEN & GINTER AMERICAN INDIAN CHIEFS BIG CHIEF Card US
    Total Items: 2
    Date Received: 2/15/2011
    Date Shipped: 3/7/2011
    Order Status: Shipped

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    That proof enough for ya Mr Lint? Get off your stinking high horse, conspiracy theorist kick.....




    << <i>Stop trying to please these people... >>


    Great idea swartz! I just don't like being made out to be a liar....
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    LOL!!! I guess that settles that!! Apology accepted!
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭


    << <i>LOL!!! I guess that settles that!! Apology accepted! >>



    NO apology offered!!!! Just facts about your SHADY dealings! From Mays to Jordan.
  • What exactly is shady about what he did with the Jordan card? You can't say he tried to pass on a bad card because PSA has told us it was properly graded. All that crap about him trying to pass the buck instead of taking responsibility is hooey. The card is an 8, period. He sold it as an 8 on the B/S/T board and the buyer wasn't happy, so he asked for advice on whether to accept a return. Most people told him he should take the card back and issue a full refund, and he did. So again I ask, what exactly is the problem here? That he was initially reluctant to issue a refund on a properly graded card? Or that you just don't like him?
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    we just don't like him.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>we just don't like him. >>



    The feeling is mutual.



    << <i>Just facts about your SHADY dealings! >>



    If I remember right, YOU bought something from me....and yes, I let you talk me down to peanuts....Mr. Lint.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>we just don't like him. >>



    The feeling is mutual.

    >>



    as long as you still respect us in the morning.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>as long as you still respect us in the morning. >>



    I'll have to confer with my buddies Big Chief, Willie Mays, and Michael Jordan. As long as they give the OK, then I am sure everything will be ok.....
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So again I ask, what exactly is the problem here? >>




    Nothing, Bobby is a hell of a guy.


    Good for you.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nothing, Bobby is a hell of a guy. >>



    Thank you!! Now, where can I ship the Red Man Bob Porterfield SGC 4 for payment for you saying that?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Was on the house.


    Good for you.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why even rehash an episode you were roundly roasted over? You must be a masochist, LOL..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Nothing, Bobby is a hell of a guy. >>



    Thank you!! Now, where can I ship the Red Man Bob Porterfield SGC 4 for payment for you saying that? >>



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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have come to Bobby's defense. I think in this case he really did nothing wrong.

    The tough part is he has a checkered past with cards and have broken some Golden Rules.

    I hope both sides learn from this.


    Don't instantly assume guilt; and be honest and people will trust you.

    No one is going to change their stance based on this thread so I say move on.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why even rehash an episode you were roundly roasted over? You must be a masochist, LOL.. >>



    Because I was roasted incorrectly. I was in the right, and the people that tried to roast were in the wrong.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    You are always in the right Bobby.





    Good for you.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You are always in the right Bobby. >>



    For the most part....yes.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Always!
    Good for you.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The tough part is he has a checkered past with cards and have broken some Golden Rules >>



    Yes Dpeck! Thou shall not break cards out that one company says is trimmed, and submit them to another grading company for an acutal numeric grade!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only reason you were given a hard time back then was because you didn't reveal the defect to the buyer who was a fellow board member and when he wanted to return the card because of such you gave him a hard time.


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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
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    Way to go Bobby!

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    I love it when I see the usual trolls have to eat their own words.

    Bravo!

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The only reason you were given a hard time back then was because you didn't reveal the defect to the buyer who was a fellow board member and when he wanted to return the card because of such you gave him a hard time. >>



    I never noticed the back.....I'm one of those that everyone loves to hate...I buy the flip, and not the card!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Bobby does not look at the backs of cards.


    Good for you.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bobby does not look at the backs of cards. >>



    USED to not look at back of cards....I am trying to get better at it.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The only reason you were given a hard time back then was because you didn't reveal the defect to the buyer who was a fellow board member and when he wanted to return the card because of such you gave him a hard time. >>



    We have a WINNER!!!!Bobby why do you make everything PERSONAL...or do you type with the same ignorance you make correct decisions?

    And by the way you are RIGHT.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    In all seriousness now, I'm happy PSA deemed the card was graded correctly.

    The new buyer is happy. The old buyer is happy he got a refund. Bobby's happy he made more on it.

    (he can eat lunch for a week)


    My only question here is a simple one and is not to be taken in an adversarial manner.

    The old buyer thought it was paper loss and IIRC you did too. You both had the card in hand.

    Now we are told it is a simple lack of inking problem. What's the deal with that?

    Just asking.
    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    The apologies are coming...

    I can feel it...

    the "older" members might have a hard time with it though...


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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Another revisionist.


    image
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    No comment I see.


    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    The apologies are coming...

    I can feel it...

    the "older" members might have a hard time with it though...


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yeah you already said that, maybe you should read the original thread first before
    you make such accusations.


    Cuz we all know your venom was directed at me.


    Good for you.
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