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Red flag?...and now another

piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
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I'm just sayin'.
To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Initial deleted, now this. Be careful.

    another red flag
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What makes the flag red? He's been a forum member for six years. Number of posts only distinguishes between those that have a lot to say and those that like to listen.

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    piecesofme....you need to retire your torch and pitchfork. Enough of the witch hunting already.
  • bstat1020bstat1020 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭
    What is the probelm with this pieces?

    We all had a low post count at one point in time. This person has been a member longer that you have!
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He could have a point...I don't know.

    On the other hand, perhaps 'piecesofme' should change his handle to 'I'mjustsayin'.
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  • SportsModeratorSportsModerator Posts: 1,624 mod
    The only reason I deleted the first thread is that he was A. Running the lot on Ebay at the same time as offering for sale here without disclosing such, and failing to put ebay in the title if that was his intention. Zero tolerance for that!

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    ok...go ahead and buy a $4200 item (initial post) from someone who has 6 posts in 6 years...YOU go right ahead.
    Geez, with all the trouble going on on the BST lately, you'd think pointing out something "questionable" would be appreciated. yet another lesson learned for me I guess.









    Note to self:
    Don't bother trying to help anyone out here going forward. Being proactive rather than reactive is not accepted by this crowd.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • goingbrokegoingbroke Posts: 1,410
    LOW POST COUNT?="It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its a bit harsh to attack a member's attempt to sell on the BST without more evidence than his number of posts or his price. Could almost be considered libelous if that's the best proof that can be presented. Every transaction on the BST has the potential to go south but until it does you can't be calling people names.

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Its a bit harsh to attack a member's attempt to sell on the BST without more evidence than his number of posts or his price. Could almost be considered libelous if that's the best proof that can be presented. Every transaction on the BST has the potential to go south but until it does you can't be calling people names. >>



    I've seen it done here many times over the years.

    I believe it would fall under the SHERMAN ACT, restraint of trade.

    GAWD help that lad if he did it to me. To open a thread like that w/o evidence ---WOW.
    Have a nice day
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>ok...go ahead and buy a $4200 item (initial post) from someone who has 6 posts in 6 years...YOU go right ahead.
    Geez, with all the trouble going on on the BST lately, you'd think pointing out something "questionable" would be appreciated. yet another lesson learned for me I guess.









    Note to self:
    Don't bother trying to help anyone out here going forward. Being proactive rather than reactive is not accepted by this crowd. >>






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  • AmigoAmigo Posts: 966 ✭

    Don't ask me why I'm posting this, IDK. It 's not really here nor there in relation to the post.

    Twice in the last 2 weeks, I've had ebayers with very low feedback send me their silver items outside of Ebay. One I won the auction, but because of their lack of communication I was hesitant to pay and go thru the hassle of a refund of well over $1000. They volunteered to send me the items first, recv'd just as stated and paid same day. She is now sending me outside of Ebay another approx 40 oz's.

    The other one I rec'vd yesterday. This person had zero feedback, the item didn't sell at his starting bid, he mailed to me all the items outside of ebay with trust I would make him a fair offer after I evaluated it. I made offer same day recvd, he accepted and I paid him within the hour, and actually paid him above his ebay starting price, again well over $1000. These two alone were more than 150 oz of Silver.

    On the BST, I was paying people in advance on the purchase of their War Nickels. Never had a problem, great transactions. I would mention that my largest Seller had over $2500 of war nickels for me. He's been a member for several yrs, but less than 50 posts as I remember. He volunteered to send them all to me in advance since he had a low post count. I love transactions built on trust.

    In my lifetime, I have found that trusting people can be very beneficial. Once trust is extended, you recieve it. I'm not saying not to take precautions at times, but the best transactions are those built on trust. If you doubt the other person, and they perceive it, you'd better be ready for some problems. I always start out trusting people and let them know that. I learned the lesson way back when I was 12.

    It is troubling some of the problems as late on the BST though. Trading coins to me is just way too much hassle and a mine trap of expectations etc.

    Blah Blah Blah, I don't have any solutions here, only small talk. My problem with the BST isn't the trust, it's more that folks here expect more for their less than .999 Bullion than it's worth, and won't pay up for my Bullion asking price, LOL The BST is an extremely hard place to make a profit in Bullion from my experience.


  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭
    Dealing outside of ebay with low feedback sellers based on trust with someone you have never dealt with before seems a fast track to the poorhouse.
    Ive seen and had some great buys on gold in the BST , depends who you deal with.A lot of nebs think it's a get rich quick board and i think that's where the problems are coming from.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    People tend to see in others, what they see in themselves. Just sayin'


    34 people and 78 BST transactions of mine would have to disagree with that. Not 1 bad one. What's your point? besides trolling
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,327 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>People tend to see in others, what they see in themselves. Just sayin'image >>



    So, someone who uses common sense and is cautious when doing a big transaction with a stranger must be a crook. How naive can you be?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>People tend to see in others, what they see in themselves. Just sayin'


    34 people and 78 BST transactions of mine would have to disagree with that. Not 1 bad one. What's your point? besides trolling >>




    Multiply those numbers by 10 and you'll be getting close to my transaction on this board. So whats your point? Your response makes no sense to me as I do business with lots of people I dont like, and dont do busines with some I do like. And come May 1, I will be trolling, for walleye.image

    All of the previous posts to mine (one wasnt sure) on this thread said the same thing. Im just more blunt.image Oh well.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The number of transactions is irrelevant. I'm sure Darin5 and others have a boatload before they started having problems. Thing is, you just never know.

    I learned that lesson the hard way when a dealer with impeccable numismatic, trade, and personal references took me for $11K.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's your point? besides trolling

    Damn! You caught me. Just trolling..........image
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  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    Yep, I'm trolling too...let me know if I catch something. Does the OP have anything to contribute to this forum or has this devolved into a dirve-by open venting venue with free insults for respected members? Hey...I'm gettin' a bite.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,431 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>People tend to see in others, what they see in themselves. Just sayin'


    34 people and 78 BST transactions of mine would have to disagree with that. Not 1 bad one. What's your point? besides trolling >>




    Multiply those numbers by 10 and you'll be getting close to my transaction on this board. So whats your point? Your response makes no sense to me as I do business with lots of people I dont like, and dont do busines with some I do like. And come May 1, I will be trolling, for walleye.image

    All of the previous posts to mine (one wasnt sure) on this thread said the same thing. Im just more blunt.image Oh well. >>




    Dave is definitely NOT trolling! He's been on the boards for awhile, tons of successful interactions (never have seen any post regarding issues with him) and is quite fair, trustworthy, and trusting.
    I've had a few interactions with him and would recommend him (matter of fact, I have in the past) to anyone. He calls them as he sees them.

    To call him a troll is to be petty and just lash out.

    I don't know the seller in the mentioned threads, and I would do due diligence if I were wanting one of the deals, but I wouldn't start a thread on them without a keen reason to do so. It would be kind of like trying to stir up a lynch mob before there was a reason.

    Like some others, I have dealt with low post count folks...and recently, one on the BST had some gold I expressed interest in. They offered to send me the gold before any payment and even said I could make an offer when I saw it. I didn't want to do it that way (since these were coins as well...just common) and made my offer based on information available on that day with the contingency that, if I agreed with the stated grade/condition, that would be my price. I received the gold coins, made my decision same day, and payment was sent at that time.

    So, it isn't the low post counts to worry about. It isn't how long someone has been here. It's the vibe you get, the conditions set for the deal, and how trustworthy both sides are (and appear).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    So, it isn't the low post counts to worry about. It isn't how long someone has been here. It's the vibe you get, the conditions set for the deal, and how trustworthy both sides are (and appear)

    Was just following suit from what has been many times over that i've seen done by others...but I understand, because it was me pointing it out, suddenly it falls under scrutiny. I'm not blind to that, believe me...but thank you for the civil discussion.

    As for the amount of transactions not mattering, I agree to some point. I really just thought what was initially posted was glaring...6 posts in 6 years and selling something for $4200 just seems...never mind, it's a dead arguement here.

    Personally, when I started here I was advised by many people to start slow with relatively low value items to build up a reputation as being a trustworthy trading partner...I followed that advice and the BST has been very good to me (for what some might seem as a miniscule amount because they've been here longer and HAVE A FREAKIN B&M STORE, which I don't).

    Just thought being proactive was prudent being that the BST has had some very bad recent happenings lately and as I already said, many others have done EXACTLY what I did...but i'll be a scapegoat, no worries here at all about that. image
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just thought being proactive was prudent being that the BST has had some very bad recent happenings lately and as I already said, many others have done EXACTLY what I did...but i'll be a scapegoat, no worries here at all about that. >>

    I hate to be harsh piecesofme. You seem to constantly post a lot light spam in the other than BST forums with the products you want to sell. imo You are the last one that should call someone out.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    too funny how things get soooo twisted here. gotta expect it on a message board I suppose.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭
    For what it's worth cos i don't think you should feel singled out or scapegoated or too bad for what was only over zealous posts in transactions you had no part.Back to back false red flags brought the witch hunt comments (which in fairness was very funny at the time). Folks around here seem to like to give an individual a long rope to hang themselves , you've seen it too.Best to stick to the popcorn emoticon in interesting threads in which you play no part.
  • SoopSoop Posts: 21
    HA HA HA

    WOW



    excuuuuuse me for existing, steelers fan



    f'n hilarious

    this place is so odd....
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭
    Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child >>



    It always amazes me at the number of forum members who primarily use the free BST to peddle their wares and do not participate in anything else.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,327 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child >>



    It always amazes me at the number of forum members who primarily use the free BST to peddle their wares and do not participate in anything else. >>



    Agree. They are missing the best part of the forums.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • goingbrokegoingbroke Posts: 1,410
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    (x2,Meltdown),cajun,Swampboy,SeaEagleCoins,InYHWHWeTrust, bstat1020,Spooly,timrutnat,oilstates200, vpr, guitarwes,
    mariner67, and Mikes coins
  • SoopSoop Posts: 21
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  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭
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  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    The only thing I can think of to add to this thread is THIS
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It always amazes me at the number of forum members who primarily use the free BST to peddle their wares and do not participate in anything else. >>



    Can't blame them for trying.
    Some try endearing themselves by using foul language.
    Like that'll work.

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  • SoopSoop Posts: 21
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    how many violations of BST polices will be violated today alone by this obvious ALT...and some of you still think he's legit...amazing!
    For those that don't know, only 1 bump a day of your own thread is allowed, but I guess whne you have ALT's, you can make it look like it isn't happening, or do what this person is, just blatantly violating policy.
    ALT ALERT!
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soops profile says his average daily post count is 0.01---not exactly an active forum member now, is he?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Home State is "Other"...where's that? Maybe Humble TX? LOL
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    << Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child >>



    Now appears to be 3 for 3 going poof...but I'm the bad guy, right?
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child >>



    Now appears to be 3 for 3 going poof...but I'm the bad guy, right? >>





    POM, on the boards here, dont expect tp be congratulated when you are right, it just doesnt happen too often in the 10 years I have been here. Be happy with being right because of how it makes YOU feelimage------------BigE
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    << << Soop seems to be a bit of a problem child >>



    Now appears to be 3 for 3 going poof...but I'm the bad guy, right? >>

    POM, on the boards here, dont expect tp be congratulated when you are right, it just doesnt happen too often in the 10 years I have been here. Be happy with being right because of how it makes YOU feel------------BigE



    LOL...oh I know that BigE. Not looking for gratification. In fact, it would be nice if the person would just come clean and play by the rules. The BST is a great place, and i just want to it stay that way. If I have to take a little heat for speaking up when I see an obvious "red flag", so be it. First time i've called someone out by the way as i don't get in the practice of doing so unless certain. I guess i'm 1 for 1. image
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
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