RED ALERT email between Metal Experts - about Confiscation of Gold and Silver
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<< <i>Editor: There is a plan to use the IMF (AKA US Treasury and Wall Street) to be the front man for the new world order and one currency. We also got disturbing news yesterday from an impeccable source that when gold touches $2,000 it’s confiscated in the USA for about $200. Then it’s to be reissued by the Treasury for $10,000 per ounce to back the new IMF world currency using SDRS in 2011. Large physical gold is being moved to Canada. >>
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2011/02/exclusive-red-alert-email-between-metal.html
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http://www.voiceamerica.com/episode/51956/gold-or-silver-when-the-dollar-collapses
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<< <i>Editor: There is a plan to use the IMF (AKA US Treasury and Wall Street) to be the front man for the new world order and one currency. We also got disturbing news yesterday from an impeccable source that when gold touches $2,000 it’s confiscated in the USA for about $200. Then it’s to be reissued by the Treasury for $10,000 per ounce to back the new IMF world currency using SDRS in 2011. Large physical gold is being moved to Canada. >>
ROFL!
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
hide all your ammunition, it will be confiscated for the coming copper crisis!
platinum
palladium
rhodium
rare earth metals
gemstones
copper, lead, tin, zinc, titanium, nickel, moly, etc.
oil
natural gas
coal
shares in commodity companies (oil, ags, metals, lumber, etc)
rare coin collections (ie not pure bullion) - what gold & silver coins would be exempted? What will be the "rule" for determining a collector vs. bullionesque coin? Who will appraise them?
coin dealers (esp bullion dealers) - B&M shops as well as vest-pocket dealer stashes
stamp collections
art
antiques
collector cars
land
collectibles of all types
In short order the govt would need to double in size to keep track of the booty as well as build numerous concentration camps to house all the indigents and insurgents.
At what point do you draw the line between what gets confiscated and what doesn't? Far simpler are more profitable to just tax to death whichever behavior you don't want.
roadrunner
<< <i>If they confiscate gold and silver, then what about other plays people have made to preserve their wealth:
platinum
palladium
rhodium
rare earth metals
gemstones
copper, lead, tin, zinc, titanium, nickel, moly, etc.
oil
natural gas
coal
stocks in commodity companies (oil, ags, metals, lumber, etc)
rare coin collections (ie not pure bullion)
coin dealers (esp bullion dealers) - B&M shops as well as vest-pocket dealer stashes
stamp collections
art
antiques
collector cars
land
collectibles of all types
In short order the govt would need to double in size to keep track of the booty as well as build numerous concentration camps to house all the indigents and insurgents.
At what point do you draw the line between what gets confiscated and what doesn't? Far simpler are more profitable to just tax to death whichever behavior you don't want.
roadrunner >>
So RR, why then in 1933 wasnt any of this a problem?
Gold is Money
Simply because the goal was to untie the gold standard from the currency. That's all that was needed to be accomplished. This time around the govt will be looking for wealth, not to untie gold which has been delinked since August 1971.
In the 1930's very little gold got turned in by J6P. Almost no one was prosecuted or jailed for ignoring the order...so why follow it? Most people didn't have all that many gold coins just laying around. In general I think the people felt an obligation to do their part and chip in to help dig out of the depression. But after another 78 yrs of currency debauchery and rising debt I don't think your average citizen or gold bug is about to turn even a single ounce of gold in without a fight. The people today are far more knowledgeable and updated daily on the world of finances and economies. Gold was the only authorized money back then and the sheeple were well removed from the effects of the 1862-1879 period when depreciating greenbacks circulated. The whole point of the confiscation in 1933-34 was to debauch the currency by breaking the gold link. Well that's been entirely gone since 1971 such that the currency has been depreciated at will. If the people sense a failure of the dollar they won't be just hoarding gold. They'll be dumping their dollars for anything of hard value that exists as they empty the shelves of most stores. During the depression the people were dishoarding "things" to supplement loss of income and help put food on the table. There's no way the govt could stop a run into tangible goods of all sorts. They could put a stop on gold, but that would jack the price up of the next best thing. Good luck getting all the diamonds and collectibles out of the hands of the peeple.
roadrunner
Campaign Finance Reform
Repeal the U.S. Supreme Court decision that a Corporation can be treated like an individual and has just as much rights.
Destroy the Lobby Machine.
Eliminate the Fed.
Then we can talk about Gold Confiscation. I will gladly hand over my gold, but the above will never happen.
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This time around the govt will be looking for wealth,
roadrunner >>
I think the government only has to look at higher taxes towards major corporations like Exxon who pull in billions of dollars a quarter then
look at joe public who owns 10 ounces or less of gold.
<< <i>Can I get back the last 15 seconds of my life I just wasted reading this? >>
Agree...but is took me 1 minute.
<< <i>Will they be confiscating tinfoil hats for the metal content?????? >>
Can you still buy tin foil? All I ever see in the stores is aluminum foil. Will that work for a hat?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>because only
Gold is Money >>
You nailed it.
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I Don't Think So.
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<< <i>I'm heavily invested in lead, copper and brass, as long as they leave that alone I'll be good. >>
I'm heavily invested in the government and not by choice. At least they are too big to fail.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>I think the "Tea Party" Congress would put a quick stop to any attempted confiscation. >>
Tea Party officials will more than likely forget their purpose once they have a roll or two in the hay with the lobbying palm greasers.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
You: yes sir please come in, would you like some coffee?
Gov't: No thanks, where is your bullion
You: Well sir I have some buried outside and some under my bed, shall I dig it up?
Gov't: Yes, right away, you're a good citizen
You: Yes I obey whatever the Gov't says. Here it is, all of it.
Gov't: Thanks, have a nice day.
You: WAIT! I have more! Please come back!
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I have to agree with RR's comment about the separation of gold from currency in 1933
Besides after so many years of the U.S. Mint selling Gold and Silver to the general population
to have the government begin a confiscation program
there would be such a backlash against the government I don't think it would survive
with any of it's current staff.
Something along the lines of what just happened in Tunisia and Egypt.
Except there is one major difference between those counties and ours
A major majority of our population have more than two arms to raise in defiance
<< <i>I hear they will not ban guns, but will regulate ammunition because of its metal content!
hide all your ammunition, it will be confiscated for the coming copper crisis! >>
I expect they will levy a heavy tax on ammunition one day to get around repealing the Second Amendment.
As for PM's, they will probably increase the tax on the sale of them.
These jokers are always looking for ways to punish people for planning for the future.
It's not fair that PM investors paid attention to opportunity while others bought 60-inch widescreen TV's instead.
Well, they will do something, of that you can be sure. Better to buy now and not worry about it. Worst case, you can easily sell any excess supply when demand gets high enough, assuming you end up with an excess supply. The nice thing about buying now is that there is adequate supply and there isn't a lot of paper involved.
"As for PM's, they will probably increase the tax on the sale of them."
Sure, this will be a big money maker for them, better they tax the bejezus out of paper gold transactions, after all...they are backed by physical gold right and they are a gold transaction right so everytime someone sells a share of gld then they get a little hickey from the gov. and there is a good paper trail of the transactions right...a no brainer. That should stop that silliness right away.
"These jokers are always looking for ways to punish people for planning for the future."
Part of successful future planning is to plan to not get punished for planning...make a plan, Stan. This is not a drill.
"It's not fair that PM investors paid attention to opportunity while others bought 60-inch widescreen TV's instead."
Looking for fair...hummmmmmm.
Got CASH
<< <i>Gov't at the door: Hello we are here to take your gold and silver..
You: yes sir please come in, would you like some coffee?
Gov't: No thanks, where is your bullion
You: Well sir I have some buried outside and some under my bed, shall I dig it up?
Gov't: Yes, right away, you're a good citizen
You: Yes I obey whatever the Gov't says. Here it is, all of it.
Gov't: Thanks, have a nice day.
You: WAIT! I have more! Please come back! >>
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<< <i>I hear they will not ban guns, but will regulate ammunition because of its metal content!
hide all your ammunition, it will be confiscated for the coming copper crisis! >>
I expect they will levy a heavy tax on ammunition one day to get around repealing the Second Amendment.
As for PM's, they will probably increase the tax on the sale of them.
These jokers are always looking for ways to punish people for planning for the future.
It's not fair that PM investors paid attention to opportunity while others bought 60-inch widescreen TV's instead. >>
I remember (not too long ago) the very first LCD 52" flat screen selling in the stores for about $36,000.00.
If you had purchased gold at that same time instead of the flat screen, you would have about 145 ounces of gold today.
Or look at it on the bright side, that LCD TV actually cost you about $200,000.00
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<< <i>I remember (not too long ago) the very first LCD 52" flat screen selling in the stores for about $36,000.00.
If you had purchased gold at that same time instead of the flat screen, you would have about 145 ounces of gold today.
Or look at it on the bright side, that LCD TV actually cost you about $200,000.00
Yeah, and those same TV's go for about 10% of original sales price. Nice spread.