What is the most spectacular US die variety?
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What do you think is the most spectacular U.S. die variety?
--1955 Doubled Die cent
--1969-S Doubled Die cent
--1916 Doubled Die nickel
Others? (By spectacular I mean blatant, obvious, etc.) Just wonder about others' opinions.
Anybody got pictures? Closeups?
Best Regards, George
--1955 Doubled Die cent
--1969-S Doubled Die cent
--1916 Doubled Die nickel
Others? (By spectacular I mean blatant, obvious, etc.) Just wonder about others' opinions.
Anybody got pictures? Closeups?
Best Regards, George
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<< <i>1955/55 by far. >>
It is only because the marks look like part of the design that they may be as spectacular as the 1955 DDO.
-Paul
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The fellow who was punching in the devices for this reverse committed the following die making errors:
- Entered the "U" in "UNITED" upside down and then punched it in right side up to create "IINITED."
- Entered the meaningless fraction 1/000.
- Forgot to add the right stem to the wreath.
Perhaps he had had a liquid lunch that day …
<< <i>The 1936/1929-S Mercury Dime
Huh, say wha'?
<< <i>Maybe this is not as spectacular, but it's a lot of fun, the 1801 Three Errors reverse large cent ...
The fellow who was punching in the devices for this reverse committed the following die making errors:
- Entered the "U" in "UNITED" upside down and then punched it in right side up to create "IINITED."
- Entered the meaningless fraction 1/000.
- Forgot to add the right stem to the wreath.
Perhaps he had had a liquid lunch that day … >>
Clearly a drunkard of the first rank ...
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1878-S VAM 18 "Spaghetti Wing" $1, spectacular for all the hand touch-up work directly on the die.
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<< <i>1880 Obverse and 1878 Reverse, and also because it comes with at least 2 obvious overdate varieties (80/79) and (8/7). >>
I am not sure I would call any of the overdates in the Morgan series "obvious".
I would rate like this
1955 DDO I don't collect these but there is no understating the cross over appeal of this coin even to non-collectors
1805/4 (the strong one)
1942/1 dime
1918/7 s 25c
I also like the
1876 cc DDR Trade dollar
and a rare mule in the 1839 CBH small letters
TD
<< <i>1872 Dime with Doubled Die Reverse with 175 degree rotation between impressions.
TD >>
Now that one is cool! Folks, photo on page 26 of Cherrypickers' Guide, , fourth edition, vol. 2. Thanks TD.
<< <i>My vote goes to the 1888-O Morgan dollar VAM 1B "Scarface" in its Harrison-10 ultimate die progression state:
Cool coin! Who is Harrison? I'm not a VAM specialist. Thanks for sharing ...
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--1955 Doubled Die cent
--1969-S Doubled Die cent >>
For cents:
The 55/55 is the king of being biggest and most well known.
The 69-S is the king in terms of $$$$$
The 72/72 and 83 DDR might be about as big as the 69-S but there are so few 69-S so it stays the king in $$$$$
<< <i>Cool coin! Who is Harrison? I'm not a VAM specialist. Thanks for sharing ... >>
He's a collector/dealer who searched out the coins and did the research to identify a 10-step progression in the crack's length that began in the denticles between E and P, then gradually grew until it went across Liberty's entire face and finally ended in her lower hair curls. ANACS now attributes Scarfaces by their H-state number from 1 to 10.
<< <i>I like the 1817/3 CBH and 1805/4 DBH for various reasons. >>
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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<< <i>I don't see the Scarface qualifying as a true die variety in the sense that overdates or that great 1801 triple error might. The Scarface is an accident of the minting process subsequent to die preparation. >>
Unfortunately, Sheldon and Overton and Van Allen & Mallis thought otherwise.
<< <i>I don't see the Scarface qualifying as a true die variety in the sense that overdates or that great 1801 triple error might. The Scarface is an accident of the minting process subsequent to die preparation. >>
I agree. Die cracks are mere metal fatigue. An interesting die variety should be there when the die is bolted into the press.
MOO
TD
<< <i>Maybe this is not as spectacular, but it's a lot of fun, the 1801 Three Errors reverse large cent ...
The fellow who was punching in the devices for this reverse committed the following die making errors:
- Entered the "U" in "UNITED" upside down and then punched it in right side up to create "IINITED."
- Entered the meaningless fraction 1/000.
- Forgot to add the right stem to the wreath.
Perhaps he had had a liquid lunch that day … >>
This was exactly what I was thinking.
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CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
<< <i>What do you think is the most spectacular U.S. die variety?
--1955 Doubled Die cent
--1969-S Doubled Die cent
--1916 Doubled Die nickel
Others? (By spectacular I mean blatant, obvious, etc.) Just wonder about others' opinions.
Anybody got pictures? Closeups?
Best Regards, George >>
Tough to say. One coin which is pretty spectacular is the 1970-S DDO 1c. Massive spread, and very rare. I remember one sold a couple years ago for a LOT of money.
Jon
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<< <i>I don't see the Scarface qualifying as a true die variety in the sense that overdates or that great 1801 triple error might. The Scarface is an accident of the minting process subsequent to die preparation. >>
Unfortunately, Sheldon and Overton and Van Allen & Mallis thought otherwise. >>
A little clarity please.
Sheldon and Overton had opinions on VAM varieties?
Van Allen And Mallis had an opinion on Large Cents?
Since you are an avowed VAM nerd I can easily sympathize with your detailed knowledge of your specialty informing your opinion, but respectfully suggest you consider that your involvement in your area of specialization may have skewed your analysis.
An EAC'er would classify your Scarface as a late die state, not a die variety. These guys did scholarship on the minting process, including die preparation, that became the wellspring for numismatic taxonomy and its attendant nomenclature. The copper weenies got there first.
<< <i>I agree with Rick Snow, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, the 2004 D Wisconsin Extra Leaf Statehood quarters. Estd. mintages and PCGS + NGC Pops. indicate that now 6 years out, the Extra Leaf High & Low varieties are very low mintage coins, similar in rarity to the famous 1955/1955 Lincoln cent. Give the Wisconsin quarters 60 years to gain popularity among statehood quarter collectors and than take another poll !! >>
I believe that it was the intention of the OP to identify the most spectacular visual experience, not the one least frequently encountered.
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<< <i>I happen to agree with the 1817/3 being the most blatantly obvious, however the 1820/19 CBH is also really quite apparent and one of my favorites.
Take a look, what do you think?
Very cool coin! But....the backlit LIBERTY is more interesting to me than the overdate.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
3 years in one coin.
bob
I agree this is a really neat variety. I just sent mine in to PCGS for grading and variety.
I have an extra in VG if anyone is interested.
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<< <i>I don't see the Scarface qualifying as a true die variety in the sense that overdates or that great 1801 triple error might. The Scarface is an accident of the minting process subsequent to die preparation. >>
Unfortunately, Sheldon and Overton and Van Allen & Mallis thought otherwise. >>
A little clarity please.
Sheldon and Overton had opinions on VAM varieties?
Van Allen And Mallis had an opinion on Large Cents?
Since you are an avowed VAM nerd I can easily sympathize with your detailed knowledge of your specialty informing your opinion, but respectfully suggest you consider that your involvement in your area of specialization may have skewed your analysis.
An EAC'er would classify your Scarface as a late die state, not a die variety. These guys did scholarship on the minting process, including die preparation, that became the wellspring for numismatic taxonomy and its attendant nomenclature. The copper weenies got there first. >>
My point is, do Sheldon and Overton designations not include die cracks and breaks? Van Allen and Mallis certainly included them in theirs. That any of us might not agree with their rationale is great for lively discussion over adult beverages, but the bottom line is that the assignments have already been made.
(edited because I hit the return button before I posted a reply.)
WS
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