<< <i>How does this skirt the Hobby Protection Act without "COPY" on it? >>
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads but basically there are no 1964-D Peace dollars in existence to copy so this is actually a fantasy coin rather than a copy. >>
plus it is an authentic Peace dollar, just defaced.
<< <i>How does this skirt the Hobby Protection Act without "COPY" on it? >>
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads but basically there are no 1964-D Peace dollars in existence to copy so this is actually a fantasy coin rather than a copy. >>
There are no 1964-D Peace dollars publicly known to exist.
(cue the dead horse icon)
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Maybe he will read this comment and maybe he won't, but I'm gonna say it.
The 1964-D restrike was controversial enough and generated enough publicity for this piece. When he started messing around with finishes and striking pressures and number of strikes and issuing them as varieties, it felt like I was being taken for a bit of a ride since there were virtually no rules in place and one had no idea how to arrange a purchase of the more desirable variety without actually buying them all.
That sucks, especially because that's a tactic that the US Mint is using these days as well.
Now, the process continues. Daniel has been combining various obverses with various reverses to come up with different offerings, which is confusing as hell and adds nothing to a collection. I'm all for artistic license and I'm all for experimentation, but at some point the artist needs to consider his audience and market.
Gold plating a classic coin design after already overstriking it is meaningless. There's really no artistic statement in gold plating this overstrike, other than to pimp the people who've been buying the previous ones.
I'm sorry, but that's just how it comes across to me.
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<< <i>I just went to his website and I see he no longer has the gold plated abortions listed. Great >>
Please, that's a serious word, and these are trivial coins. MOO TD
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<< <i>I just went to his website and I see he no longer has the gold plated abortions listed. Great >>
Apparently, he HAS read the posts and emails. I believe this to be a smart decision, and as jmski52 said, but at some point the artist needs to consider his audience and market.. Hopefully he has.
" Total produced so far (all production combined): 1,830 (maximum total will be 1,964). 134 coins remain to be produced. Current plans are for most of those last 134 to be bead-blasted matte proofs. A gilt version (with gold plating applied prior to over-strike) has been produced as a few test pieces, but this variation will not be released."
There are many gilt tokens, "So-Called Dollars", and other items in the exonumia marketplace that are widely accepted and collected.
But I can understand the derision towards gold-plated state quarters and the like - since they were modified by an unrelated 3rd-party after being struck and released by the issuing authority.
Plating them prior to over-striking is a totally different situation, I think.
I was torn between issuing the final run as gilt pieces, or as sandblast proofs. I like both types. But I don't think I can produce both since splitting the remainimg 130 or so coins into two different types would make them too limited.
As you all here probably know, I tend to go ahead and do what I want regardless of "public opinion".
After careful consideration, I've decided to go with ....
That was quick, we complain about the gold, then get the matte proof all in one day. Much faster feedback than the US Mint, I gotta say....Order Number: 6283 for the matte proof.
<< <i>There are many gilt tokens, "So-Called Dollars", and other items in the exonumia marketplace that are widely accepted and collected.
But I can understand the derision towards gold-plated state quarters and the like - since they were modified by an unrelated 3rd-party after being struck and released by the issuing authority.
Plating them prior to over-striking is a totally different situation, I think.
I was torn between issuing the final run as gilt pieces, or as sandblast proofs. I like both types. But I don't think I can produce both since splitting the remainimg 130 or so coins into two different types would make them too limited.
As you all here probably know, I tend to go ahead and do what I want regardless of "public opinion".
After careful consideration, I've decided to go with ....
The matte-proof version >>
As the butler said near the beginning of the movie "Arthur": . "I will alert the media."
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While HSN has disgraced the idea of gilt coins, it was a fairly common thing to do in the colonial era. There are many gilt coins and medals from that era. I think it is an interesting idea. I don't know if I will be buying one, I bought the first two, configurations, did not buy the DMPL.
order #6304 It appears he isn't doing gold plated cause it's gone from the website. I think this is much better and put in an order as soon as I saw it.
Well my associate in my office just picked up 2 of the Matte for the grandkids so there goes 2 more, gotta be getting close to sold out...So Last Call....
I actually passed on this one but bought a run of 2011 Ameros ealier today................MJ
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<< <i>I hope we don't see more than 134 of these, or there will be an angry mob here. >>
It ain't hard to get an angry mob on here..........
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<< <i>How does this skirt the Hobby Protection Act without "COPY" on it? >>
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads but basically there are no 1964-D Peace dollars in existence to copy so this is actually a fantasy coin rather than a copy. >>
plus it is an authentic Peace dollar, just defaced.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Not a fan of the gilted-one.
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<< <i>How does this skirt the Hobby Protection Act without "COPY" on it? >>
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads but basically there are no 1964-D Peace dollars in existence to copy so this is actually a fantasy coin rather than a copy. >>
There are no 1964-D Peace dollars publicly known to exist.
(cue the dead horse icon)
The 1964-D restrike was controversial enough and generated enough publicity for this piece. When he started messing around with finishes and striking pressures and number of strikes and issuing them as varieties, it felt like I was being taken for a bit of a ride since there were virtually no rules in place and one had no idea how to arrange a purchase of the more desirable variety without actually buying them all.
That sucks, especially because that's a tactic that the US Mint is using these days as well.
Now, the process continues. Daniel has been combining various obverses with various reverses to come up with different offerings, which is confusing as hell and adds nothing to a collection. I'm all for artistic license and I'm all for experimentation, but at some point the artist needs to consider his audience and market.
Gold plating a classic coin design after already overstriking it is meaningless. There's really no artistic statement in gold plating this overstrike, other than to pimp the people who've been buying the previous ones.
I'm sorry, but that's just how it comes across to me.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>it sure will cheapen the run - I can only pray he is having a little fun and is testing reception of the Gilt thingy ..........
It is obvious that he is feeling gilt-ey.
<< <i>I just went to his website and I see he no longer has the gold plated abortions listed. Great
Please, that's a serious word, and these are trivial coins.
MOO
TD
<< <i>I just went to his website and I see he no longer has the gold plated abortions listed. Great
Apparently, he HAS read the posts and emails. I believe this to be a smart decision, and as jmski52 said, but at some point the artist needs to consider his audience and market.. Hopefully he has.
" Total produced so far (all production combined): 1,830 (maximum total will be 1,964). 134 coins remain to be produced. Current plans are for most of those last 134 to be bead-blasted matte proofs. A gilt version (with gold plating applied prior to over-strike) has been produced as a few test pieces, but this variation will not be released."
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<< <i>he also raised the production cut off from1964 to 2000 coins. >>
I hope this is not so - apparently the # is 1964 ,........ no more >>
I just pulled this off the site a few minutes ago.
It looks to me like the number is still 1964. I'd have to see proof to believe otherwise. >>
Love the matte proof look!!!!!
But I can understand the derision towards gold-plated state quarters and the like - since they were modified by an unrelated 3rd-party after being struck and released by the issuing authority.
Plating them prior to over-striking is a totally different situation, I think.
I was torn between issuing the final run as gilt pieces, or as sandblast proofs. I like both types. But I don't think I can produce both since splitting the remainimg 130 or so coins into two different types would make them too limited.
As you all here probably know, I tend to go ahead and do what I want regardless of "public opinion".
After careful consideration, I've decided to go with ....
The matte-proof version
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<< <i>he also raised the production cut off from1964 to 2000 coins. >>
I hope this is not so - apparently the # is 1964 ,........ no more >>
I just pulled this off the site a few minutes ago.
It looks to me like the number is still 1964. I'd have to see proof to believe otherwise. >>
Love the matte proof look!!!!!
Order #6279
1/9/2011 5:07 PM
Qty: 1 "1964-D" Peace Silver Dollar fantasy issue, Matte Proof
MUCH better/preferred than the gold layered.
<< <i>That was quick, we complain about the gold, then get the matte proof all in one day. Much faster feedback than the US Mint, I gotta say..... >>
But, this is what was expected, the matte proof. There was no mention of the gilt version, until, gosh, I don't remember seeing it till today.
1/9/2011 5:32 PM
Qty: 1 "1964-D" Peace Silver Dollar fantasy issue, Matte Proof
<< <i>There are many gilt tokens, "So-Called Dollars", and other items in the exonumia marketplace that are widely accepted and collected.
But I can understand the derision towards gold-plated state quarters and the like - since they were modified by an unrelated 3rd-party after being struck and released by the issuing authority.
Plating them prior to over-striking is a totally different situation, I think.
I was torn between issuing the final run as gilt pieces, or as sandblast proofs. I like both types. But I don't think I can produce both since splitting the remainimg 130 or so coins into two different types would make them too limited.
As you all here probably know, I tend to go ahead and do what I want regardless of "public opinion".
After careful consideration, I've decided to go with ....
The matte-proof version
As the butler said near the beginning of the movie "Arthur":
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"I will alert the media."
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
<< <i>D Carr is a bright guy. Brilliantly played. >>
Either item would have probably sold out. The matte version for sure would have.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
PS Dan you gotta show us what fantastic muscle car this whole enterprise bought, ok??
<< <i>D Carr is a bright guy. Brilliantly played. >>
Surprise!
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<< <i>D Carr is a bright guy. Brilliantly played. >>
Either item would have probably sold out. The matte version for sure would have. >>
True. But the gilt stunt build up one final tizzy and brought focused attention to the series finale. His fruitful endeavor ends with a bang.
He has some of you floppin around like a flounder pulled on the dock from the bay.
Funny funny stuff
I knew it would happen.
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LOL
Well, just Love coins, period.
got the proof matte
Looking forward to showing it off.
1964-D Peace Silver Dollar fantasy issue, Individually Handled, MS-68
(2) - 1964-D Peace Silver Dollars fantasy issue, Matte Proof (one for me, one for the old man)
That gives me the full set now!
33 left as of 11pm pacific time
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I knew it would happen.
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Price today, 190.
<< <i>I hope we don't see more than 134 of these, or there will be an angry mob here. >>
It ain't hard to get an angry mob on here..........