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Which is Worse: Coin Doctor or Telemarketer?

tennesseecoin2tennesseecoin2 Posts: 25
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Coin doctors are committing fraud in some ways, whereas telemarketers are ripping people off and preying on older folks.
I would vote Telemarketer as they make the hobby look even worse than coin doctors.
Unfortunately a lot of coin dealers deal exclusively with telemarketers and I think that it is morally worse than doctoring coins.

Any other opinions?

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first thought is coin doctors because they can deceive you no matter how long you've been in the hobby or how much of an expert you are.

    In other words, with a little education, you can quickly learn to avoid telemarketers...but this is not always the case with coin doctors.
  • TypeSetterTypeSetter Posts: 378
    telemarketers cause you lack of sleep...ans other bedtime activities
    coin doctors dont.image
  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116 ✭
    maybe so . but a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. tomm you get a 2nd shot of mojo and the activities that go along with it. ( btw isnt that why we have answering machines and caller ID so we dont have to deal with telemarketers?)
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>



    Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

    Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public. >>

    Many of the telemarketers I've been seeing lately sell NGC graded coins.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

    Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public. >>

    Many of the telemarketers I've been seeing lately sell NGC graded coins. >>



    I was thinking of those birth year sets in those plastic five or six hole holders that are advertised in the back of magazines.

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  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019 ✭
    Both of them are bottom feeders, have no positive effect on society, and should be eradicated.
    Maybe drawn and quartered, their throats cut, their bowels ripped out.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just remember, neither activity is against the law, until they cross the line into fraud - which both invariably do. Cheers, RickO
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll say coin doc. It is common knowledge that just about everything sold by a telemarketer is overpriced, so it should be no surprise to anyone when they lose money on something they bought that way. Coin docs and their accomplices that hire them surreptitiously destroy coins without regard for any future owner or historical importance of any given coin, leaving some collector holding the bag when their coin turns to dreck.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll say coin doc. It is common knowledge that just about everything sold by a telemarketer is overpriced, so it should be no surprise to anyone when they lose money on something they bought that way. Coin docs and their accomplices that hire them surreptitiously destroy coins without regard for any future owner or historical importance of any given coin, leaving some collector holding the bag when their coin turns to dreck. >>

    Leaving some TPG holding the bag, which presumably passes the costs on to all collectors, indirectly.
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  • scottgardenerscottgardener Posts: 1,205 ✭
    This is a toughie; telemarketers prey on the people at large, while the coin doctors go after collectors, destroying coins themselves along the way, ruining history. But, I'd have to give the edge to telemarketers, because they hurt more people by sheer numbers.
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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Coin docs are a problem, telemarketers are not. Yes they prey on the ignorant and elderly BUT they also serve a vital role in the ongoing health of our industry. Whether we like it or not, they create demand for items that might sit on shelves for years selling them to people outside of our industry. They have exceptionally deep pockets adding to the overall liquidity of the business. Lastly they keep prices up for widgets that we have all become accustom to. Look at proof gold eagles. The big telemarketer leaves and prices drop $500 per ounce.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin Doctors are worse.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

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    Me, too.
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>but a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>



    I don't support coin doctoring, but I hear this too often.

    Only a select few types of coin doctoring will actually ruin a coin. Many other forms are completely reversable.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    For the coin doctors, we have a first line of defense-- the TPGs, the Sniffer, and ethical dealers. For telemarketers, however, they slither in the dark corners of the numismatic world, and we have far fewer protections against them. So I think the telemarkets are a more dangerous breed.
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  • tennesseecoin2tennesseecoin2 Posts: 25
    Interesting responses.
    Keep in mind that coin doctors and telemarketers are both preying on the uneducated (grading services should catch them).
    Also, telemarketers are duping people personally, while the coin doctors are attempting to dupe the grading services and not individuals.
  • CEOGBOSECEOGBOSE Posts: 377
    Even worse a telemarketer selling doctored coins.image
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    One knows "coins" the other knows "cons."
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin doctors don't call you at dinner time.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think sometimes that they are 2 of the same at times
  • ProofCentsProofCents Posts: 1,656
    both will casue you to lose money
  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    Coin doctors generally....but some are one in the same image
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  • barbershopperbarbershopper Posts: 1,201
    There's a new phenomenon happening to me.
    I've had three phone calls just in the last two weeks from men wanting to sell me gold and Morgans.
    The Morgans were quoted as being PCGS or NGC MS64.
    I told them in no uncertain terms what I thought of them and two hung up on me! image

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Still trying to figure out the difference between the two.... image
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Coin doctors
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  • customrollcustomroll Posts: 523 ✭


    << <i>Still trying to figure out the difference between the two.... image >>



    The OP's question is like asking which is worse. cancer or the plague.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    BOTH
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin Doctors. If someone I don't know tries to sell me something, I hang up the phone or am so rude to him / her, that said person never calls back. However, a coin doctor commits fraud if he doctors a coin and has it sold without disclosing the doctoring. Imo I've seen too many doctored coins in first world slabs, which are apparently deemed to be "market acceptable."
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    Ask PCGS which is worse .............

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