Which is Worse: Coin Doctor or Telemarketer?

tennesseecoin2

Coin doctors are committing fraud in some ways, whereas telemarketers are ripping people off and preying on older folks.
I would vote Telemarketer as they make the hobby look even worse than coin doctors.
Unfortunately a lot of coin dealers deal exclusively with telemarketers and I think that it is morally worse than doctoring coins.

Any other opinions?

MidLifeCrisis

My first thought is coin doctors because they can deceive you no matter how long you've been in the hobby or how much of an expert you are.

In other words, with a little education, you can quickly learn to avoid telemarketers...but this is not always the case with coin doctors.

TypeSetter

telemarketers cause you lack of sleep...ans other bedtime activities
coin doctors dont.

atarian

maybe so . but a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. tomm you get a 2nd shot of mojo and the activities that go along with it. ( btw isnt that why we have answering machines and caller ID so we dont have to deal with telemarketers?)

Zoins

<< <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

PerryHall

<< <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>



Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public.

Zoins

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<< <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public. >>

Many of the telemarketers I've been seeing lately sell NGC graded coins.

PerryHall

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<< <i>a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>

Telemarketers frequently shines up their coins to make them more appealing to the non-collecting public. >>

Many of the telemarketers I've been seeing lately sell NGC graded coins. >>



I was thinking of those birth year sets in those plastic five or six hole holders that are advertised in the back of magazines.

melvin289

Both of them are bottom feeders, have no positive effect on society, and should be eradicated.
Maybe drawn and quartered, their throats cut, their bowels ripped out.

Ron

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ricko

Just remember, neither activity is against the law, until they cross the line into fraud - which both invariably do. Cheers, RickO

messydesk

I'll say coin doc. It is common knowledge that just about everything sold by a telemarketer is overpriced, so it should be no surprise to anyone when they lose money on something they bought that way. Coin docs and their accomplices that hire them surreptitiously destroy coins without regard for any future owner or historical importance of any given coin, leaving some collector holding the bag when their coin turns to dreck.

Zoins

<< <i>I'll say coin doc. It is common knowledge that just about everything sold by a telemarketer is overpriced, so it should be no surprise to anyone when they lose money on something they bought that way. Coin docs and their accomplices that hire them surreptitiously destroy coins without regard for any future owner or historical importance of any given coin, leaving some collector holding the bag when their coin turns to dreck. >>

Leaving some TPG holding the bag, which presumably passes the costs on to all collectors, indirectly.

scottgardener

This is a toughie; telemarketers prey on the people at large, while the coin doctors go after collectors, destroying coins themselves along the way, ruining history. But, I'd have to give the edge to telemarketers, because they hurt more people by sheer numbers.

Greeniejr

Coin docs are a problem, telemarketers are not. Yes they prey on the ignorant and elderly BUT they also serve a vital role in the ongoing health of our industry. Whether we like it or not, they create demand for items that might sit on shelves for years selling them to people outside of our industry. They have exceptionally deep pockets adding to the overall liquidity of the business. Lastly they keep prices up for widgets that we have all become accustom to. Look at proof gold eagles. The big telemarketer leaves and prices drop $500 per ounce.

Broadstruck

Coin Doctors are worse.

Barry

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Me, too.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>but a coin doctor will ruin a coin for the rest of time. >>



I don't support coin doctoring, but I hear this too often.

Only a select few types of coin doctoring will actually ruin a coin. Many other forms are completely reversable.

Longacre

For the coin doctors, we have a first line of defense-- the TPGs, the Sniffer, and ethical dealers. For telemarketers, however, they slither in the dark corners of the numismatic world, and we have far fewer protections against them. So I think the telemarkets are a more dangerous breed.

tennesseecoin2

Interesting responses.
Keep in mind that coin doctors and telemarketers are both preying on the uneducated (grading services should catch them).
Also, telemarketers are duping people personally, while the coin doctors are attempting to dupe the grading services and not individuals.

CEOGBOSE

Even worse a telemarketer selling doctored coins.

RWB

One knows "coins" the other knows "cons."

renomedphys

Coin doctors don't call you at dinner time.

johnny9434

i think sometimes that they are 2 of the same at times

ProofCents

both will casue you to lose money

kryptonitecomics

Coin doctors generally....but some are one in the same

barbershopper

There's a new phenomenon happening to me.
I've had three phone calls just in the last two weeks from men wanting to sell me gold and Morgans.
The Morgans were quoted as being PCGS or NGC MS64.
I told them in no uncertain terms what I thought of them and two hung up on me!

JT

dizzyfoxx

Still trying to figure out the difference between the two....

doh

Coin doctors

customroll

<< <i>Still trying to figure out the difference between the two.... >>



The OP's question is like asking which is worse. cancer or the plague.

segoja

BOTH

Elcontador

Coin Doctors. If someone I don't know tries to sell me something, I hang up the phone or am so rude to him / her, that said person never calls back. However, a coin doctor commits fraud if he doctors a coin and has it sold without disclosing the doctoring. Imo I've seen too many doctored coins in first world slabs, which are apparently deemed to be "market acceptable."

PawPaul

Ask PCGS which is worse .............