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A couple, two or three questions on PSA 1981 Fleer BaseBall

melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019 ✭
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Can someone tell me what approximately it would cost to put together an '81 Fleer set in PSA 8, 9, and 10.

What would be the most expensive card in this set in those grades?

Is there somewhere one can find find card prices on the internet that are fairly accurate? Here on the Forum PCGS lists coin prices but I can't seem to find card prices.

Thanks,
Ron
Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
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  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    You could probley accomplish that with an average $6 a card. You would have to submit most yourself, as it is not a highly collected set.

    VCP prices on the cards will not be of much help, as most of the cards are not traded on a regular basis. (A good share likely isn't even graded yet).

    PSA 8's and 9's, are worth $1-5. PSA 10's around $10-12 for most.

    The higher end ones should hit $20-25, with cards like Nolan Ryan and some error cards.

    The Raines might be a little higher. His Topps RC is $200+ in PSA 10.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    The best way to get the basic complete set without the error cards would be to buy 4 or 5 nice raw sets and just submit the best of each card. With the current special at $4.50 per card with return shipping would cost you a little over $3000. If some don't meet your minimum standards, which most probably would, just buy the few extras you need and upgrade along the way if necessary.

    My guess would be $3500 or so for at least PSA 8 or better.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    Also ask the forum in the BST for what they have.

    Like I have a 1981 Fleer 173 Doug DeCinces PSA 10 and 1981 Fleer 383 Bert Blyleven PSA 10, I could go $16 delivered on (for both).
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>The Raines might be a little higher. His Topps RC is $200+ in PSA 10. >>



    Don't think Rianes had an 81 Fleer card.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The Raines might be a little higher. His Topps RC is $200+ in PSA 10. >>



    Don't think Rianes had an 81 Fleer card. >>



    Then I am sure it would be a $50+ card. image
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    wrong thread...opps
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    How to make a $17.99 set cost $3,000.00+ ??

    Spending $4.50+ ea. to grade 660 cards worth 1-10 cents ea.


    Not really the best investment out there...
  • iahawks55000000iahawks55000000 Posts: 46
    Wow, for an ugly set, I'm not sure I would spend that type of money. At least the Topps set has a few decent looking cards.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>How to make a $17.99 set cost $3,000.00+ ??

    Spending $4.50+ ea. to grade 660 cards worth 1-10 cents ea.


    Not really the best investment out there... >>



    One could likely say the same for 95% cards.

    I think the 1981 Fleer or the 1981 Donruss would be an interesting project and likely much harder then one would guess (in 9-10 at least). Many of those cards were cut pretty rough.
    Some are so out of focus, PSA might never 10 one.

    But with the variations, tons of a HOF'er, a couple decent RCs...there are a lot of worst sets to assemble.

    GL
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the worst investment idea I have ever heard of. You want to take cards that sell for $0.10 and spend $4.50 to get them graded. So a so called non biased opinion is worth 45 times the cards raw value. Do not do this!!!

    The guys on here buying older cards that have raw values that are more then a cup of coffee or a cheeseburger are at least maybe going to break even. This is the worst losing idea I have ever heard of.

    A $18 set raw vs a $3500 set graded. There is no interest or even close to the $3500 it cost. If you get could get this done at maybe $75 go for it. You can not so move on; extremely bad idea!!!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Many seem to forget that this is also a hobby.

    The OP might have started his collecting with that set and

    wants to rekindle his early collecting years.

    He may have 20 million in the bank and 4k is chump change.


    My grandfather left me some Morgan dollars and I took the best ones

    and sent them in. The value of the coins raw were 35.00

    The grading fee was 35.00. Did I do it for the investment?

    NO, I did it because I wanted to have them in a slab and protected.

    Not everyone has cards/comics/coins or whatever for investment.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    There are a lot of people, myself included, who manage to make money fine with modern graded cards.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who cares what you have in the bank. If you are going to drop nearly 206 times the value of the set to get it graded it is simpply not worth it!

    There are plenty of sets that meet the criteria to invest in. This is not one of them!!!
  • AlbertdiditAlbertdidit Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    Theres people starving out there. Donate the $3,500 to feed the hungry or kids presents at X-mas that are poor and buy the set in nice condition raw for $25 including shipping.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Not worth it to you David.

    To him it might be.

    He never said it was for investment.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So lets get this straight. You can buy 195 raw sets and have the mother load. Or you have one that PSA deams what ever grade they give. Sorry the odds here don't work. Take the mother load and have a ton.
  • hhmag70hhmag70 Posts: 2,107
    Dbag, who does not understand sniping to save money, telling others how to spend their money.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Not worth it to you David.

    To him it might be.

    He never said it was for investment.


    Steve >>



    One is always foolish to know the others desires. OP might even have a seller for it. Or as Steve noted, it might be THE set from his childhood. Most men will waste more then $3000 on childhood dreams.

    If you think all those cards are worthless, go try to buy all the Nolan Ryan and Pete Rose cards in PSA 10.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HHmag your a loser. Move on. I have my own ideas about bidding that represent my position. You are a typical internet tool.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meteroite,

    No one is saying this does not bring back old memories. The bottom line though is a common from 1981 is never going up in value. If you want to own all slabbed cards make sure they cost more then the grading in most cases.

    This is not the case on an $18 set. Let's use our brains here.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Meteroite,

    No one is saying this does not bring back old memories. The bottom line though is a common from 1981 is never going up in value. If you want to own all slabbed cards make sure they cost more then the grading in most cases.

    This is not the case on an $18 set. Let's use our brains here. >>




    I have made money on 1981 Fleer PSA 10's, and what the set is worth does not matter in this case.

    You apparently don't get it.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • rlange5rlange5 Posts: 228
    Everyone collects different things, for different reasons. If he has an interest in a set that would cost $18 raw and is willing to spend his money to have it graded then more power to him. There are many people out there that spend a lot of money on other cards that most would consider worthless.

    Bob
    Not an alt, just a lurker

    Looking for Bob Uecker cards

    My Ebay Auctions
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look,

    You dont' get all 10's on your first try. He will have to submit a ton of cards to get all 10's. I am not making fun of the concept of opening a box of all graded cards of a certain set.

    The problem is this is an $18 set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Under no circumstances can you ever recoup close to what you spent. I don't like these odds with cards but if you do that is fine.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    I collect graded Steve Young cards. They are worth about $0.25 raw. Not a problem to me. What are they worth to you.....don't really care and not sure why I should. A 10 of a card I am after is worth a lot more then $5 to me.

    You seem to think the OP should collect some older set he might not have the slightest interest in. To each their own. Some people, even collect wrestling cards.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • 1966CUDA1966CUDA Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Under no circumstances can you ever recoup close to what you spent >>



    He never said he wants to recoup the cost. Everyone collects for different reasons. If it was THE set for him from his youth, why not?! We all have stuff we will never recoup the cost of...but the collecting bug is infectious..if you gotta have it you gotta have it.

    Link to my auctions
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    If you have an eye for cards and are willing to sift patiently through TONS of cards and only submit the ones that you think are 9/10, then you can make money on almost any set. There are buyers for PSA 10 for almost any set you can name. On the other hand, if you're one of these guys who subs 30% of the cards from every raw set you buy, then you likely won't make money, nor should you.

    Successful transactions with: thedutymon, tsalems1, davidpuddy, probstein123, lodibrewfan, gododgersfan, dialj, jwgators, copperjj, larryp, hookem, boopotts, crimsontider, rogermnj, swartz1, Counselor

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  • HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    If I were worried about recouping money I wouldn't be buying cards. The OP is not the first with the idea of doing a graded 1981 Fleer set as there are currently 7 listed on the registry.
    Cut Auto Cards 4 sale

    My Registry Sets
  • rlange5rlange5 Posts: 228


    << <i>I collect graded Steve Young cards. They are worth about $0.25 raw. Not a problem to me. What are they worth to you.....don't really care and not sure why I should. A 10 of a card I am after is worth a lot more then $5 to me.

    You seem to think the OP should collect some older set he might not have the slightest interest in. To each there own. Some people, even collect wrestling cards. >>



    Glad someone said it.

    The OP never said he wanted all 10's, his range was 8-10. He never said this was an invesment or why he was wanting to complete this set graded.

    Bob
    Not an alt, just a lurker

    Looking for Bob Uecker cards

    My Ebay Auctions
  • mosaicmosaic Posts: 700 ✭
    You know, as nutty as collecting 81 Fleer sounds... there were the days when collecting 94 Donruss was madness on par with stage 3 syphillis.

    Maybe it's time for some board members to light a fire under this set like the 84s!
    Nolan Ryan & Edgar Martinez are my favorite players...
    image
    mosaic's Nolan Ryan Basic Topps registry set
    mosaic's Big 3 Nolan Ryan Run Showcase
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay have fun subbing 660 cards.

    I can't personally understand subbing cards that may cost a penny but I guess my logic is wrong in this case. image

    Good luck with your quest.

  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭
    This is a great hobby and we all collect cards for different reasons, including for fun or as an investment. Man,
    much of the stuff I collect is modern garbage, but the 'fun value' I get out of it is pure heaven.

    image
  • rlange5rlange5 Posts: 228
    The OP will probably get the same amount of enjoyment as someone subbing 150 wrestling cards.

    Bob
    Not an alt, just a lurker

    Looking for Bob Uecker cards

    My Ebay Auctions
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>Okay have fun subbing 660 cards.

    I can't personally understand subbing cards that may cost a penny but I guess my logic is wrong in this case. image

    Good luck with your quest. >>




    Do not check eBay....there are six digits in auctions right now saying you don't understand.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Subbbing a 133 cards when the average at least $4.00 a piece makes since and when 9 average $400.

    I am a true collector. I love the idea of people passionate about their set. The bottom line though is paying someone 45 times the cards value really makes no since for their opinion. I say by a ton of the cards and just know you have awesome cards and have a ton of sets.

  • rlange5rlange5 Posts: 228


    << <i>Subbbing a 133 cards when the average at least $4.00 a piece makes since and when 9 average $400.

    I am a true collector. I love the idea of people passionate about their set. The bottom line though is paying someone 45 times the cards value really makes no since for their opinion. I say by a ton of the cards and just know you have awesome cards and have a ton of sets. >>



    A "true collector" doesn't care about the investment. They collect what they love.

    Bob
    Not an alt, just a lurker

    Looking for Bob Uecker cards

    My Ebay Auctions
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No

    When you spend $700 to get cards graded it needs to make financial sense.


    Even if you have no intent to sell you have to think before you get cards graded.
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    Because of my attraction to 1990 Pro Set FB, I'm going to be subbing 800+ cards that are not worth a penny. Some of them two or three times. It's not an investment, it's a lifetime sub-project of my hobby and I LOVE IT.

    DPeck, there are far worse ways for people to spend their money needlessly than nostalgic collectibles. For instance, I feel like fancy cars are ridiculous and a giant waste of resources. But that's just me. I don't begrudge others their enjoyment of that particular hobby. For all you know, the OP will get 1000x the enjoyment spending his money on worthless graded 1981 Fleer than you will get when you profit from selling your Hogans or driving your car or anything else that you love doing.

    I am not one of the haters, BTW. I'm genuinely glad you are here. Your enthusiasm for the set(s) you collect is fantastic!

    Try to exit your own head for a minute, though. People enjoy all sorts of things while motivated by reasons you don't/can't understand. And they're not wrong to do so no matter how strongly you disagree with their feelings.
  • rlange5rlange5 Posts: 228
    OK

    Bob
    Not an alt, just a lurker

    Looking for Bob Uecker cards

    My Ebay Auctions
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The hallmark,

    You are right. I started buying the Wrestling All Stars just for me. There was no coverage and I had no idea what they were worth.

    If anyone has read any post I have made about my sets, all I said is wanted them for me. When I paid $1225 for a Gem MInt Ric Flair it made no sense to most but it made all of the sense to me.

    Good luck with your quest and I am wrong to even judge. I applogize for being just like the rest. Good luck and I hope you meet your quest.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i> When I paid $1225 for a Gem MInt Ric Flair >>




    You paid what? for a 5 cent card????????



    Steve



    image
    Good for you.
  • BkritzBkritz Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    I have a group of 1981 Fleer you can have for $35 delivered!

    Lopes
    Piniella
    George Foster
    Kingman
    Carew
    Rickey Henderson
    Phil Niekro
    Dale Murphy
    Garvey
    George Brett
    Sutter
    Tommy John
    Kirk Gibson
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe this is funny to you. Check out a current EBAY auction and you will see. I am sure you were joking so not to worry. But just in case you were not, the 1982 Wrestling All Stars Ric Flair #27 is an awesome card! Good luck finding it for a nickel image. You might be able to find an empty can of Coke but no luck with this card!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    My point was at one time it was a 5 cent card.

    Was it not?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>This is the worst investment idea I have ever heard of. >>



    So collecting cards of actors that pretend to be athletes is a good investment?

    In the history of CU has there ever been a member that went this far out of his/her way to prove his/her douchebaggery?
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>There are a lot of people, myself included, who manage to make money fine with modern graded cards. >>



    I actually have made a nice chunk of change doing it. image Should have spent the extra cash on actor's cards.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rabbit Hunter go kill a few more,

    You are a total tool. You are the biggest Hater I have ever met. Go sell a few more cards for $3.99. Quit picking on someone with real pcokets to buy real sports cards.


    Hulk Hogan may have not played baseball and become a God in your world, but he was very important to many and a card that has 2000 or less that exist can move higher in a big way!!!!
  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019 ✭
    Thank all of you for the honest answers. My interest in the '81 Fleer set was it was the last raw set I was working on when I got out of sports cards in '91. I am 61 years old and have been "HEAVY" into coins for the last 15 years or so. I have seen a $3900 three coin set of Columbia, South Carolina commemorative halves fall to $2600 in the last 3 recession years. I will never recoup anywhere near out of my collection what I paid. I come here on the Sports Card Forum and see the passion you all seem to have for the cards and remember how it used to be. At my age I just can't see spending the kind of money coins cost anymore. I don't have anyone to leave them to so might as leave a partially finished set of '81 Fleers as anything else.

    Again, my thanks to all,

    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>Rabbit Hunter go kill a few more, >>



    I will but we have a few more months before rabbit season




    << <i>You are a total tool. >>



    Thanks. If you can't read, the unanimous consensus here is that you are a douche.




    << <i>You are the biggest Hater I have ever met >>



    It's "hatter" on CU




    << <i>Quit picking on someone with real pcokets to buy real sports cards. >>



    Wrestling is not a sport and I have no idea what "pcokets" are.




    << <i>Hulk Hogan may have not played baseball and become a God in your world, but he was very important to many and a card that has 2000 or less that exist can move higher in a big way!!!! >>



    Yep, took 28 years for 3 guys to jack up the price.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bill,

    Seriously your jealousy is just not cool. Go hunt a few more rabbits and you will get over it.

    I know it breaks your heart that guys that faked hurting each other are drastically more valuable then guys that hit a small ball but move on!!!!!!

  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭


    << <i>Seriously your jealousy is just not cool. >>



    Yep, I'm so jealous. I have a beautiful wife and 3 beautiful children with another one on the way. I make more than enough money to support them and still have some left to pizz away on cardboard pictures of REAL athletes. I'm not a douche. My Momma loves me. I don't need to brag about my brother so I can look cool. I don't have to have pics taken of me in someone elses car to look cool.

    I hatte me.
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