Pawn stars got a gold bar on tonight's episode
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06-14-10
looks to be Atocha-y. Think it's a new episode.
looks to be Atocha-y. Think it's a new episode.
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<< <i>Did they ever state a weight? >>
I don't recall hearing it, but Rick(?) immediately began tossing around the $20k+ figure.
Maybe slapping it on the scale was just a little too dull for TV. It was a pretty bar, and I'm sure there are buyers who want stuff like that. But I can't imagine paying 2x melt. A premium? Sure. With paperwork, correct identification of ship or at least fleet, age, assayer, origin. A nice presentation box. Throw me a bone.
But without all or even any of that, it's just a lump of gold.
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<< <i><< Did they ever state a weight? >> >>
<< <i>I don't recall hearing it, but Rick(?) immediately began tossing around the $20k+ figure. >>
Yeah - Rick said $24K at melt so I assumed we were talking about a 20oz bar, especially after seeing the "XX" stamped on it. Then they said the "XX" stamp was for 20 carat which was likely low to avoid taxes.
Still it must have been very close to 20oz. It reminded me of a solid piece of gold angle iron! The $35K price paid by Pawn Stars was very fair indeed.
But then it wouldn't be a good tv show.
Staged staged staged , but people fail to see it.
Great TV entertainment , but as real as my 43 copper Lincoln cent.
<< <i>Bet you ten bucks they didn't really buy it.
But then it wouldn't be a good tv show.
Staged staged staged , but people fail to see it.
Great TV entertainment , but as real as my 43 copper Lincoln cent. >>
Then I suppose you don't believe Chumle is for real, but just an act?
I bet they buy everything. Why wouldn't they when they can turn an insane profit on most everything they buy?
The gold bar was really cool. Especially the fact that it had some coral crust on it. I would have loved to hear the story of how that dude's grandad came to acquire it. I think 35K was a great cash price for it.
It was interesting to learn that the folks who made these bars tried to cheat on their taxes by marking it at a lower caret than it presumably was.
My brother went to the SHOT Show in Las Vegas this past January. He stopped in the "Pawn Stars" shop (Gold and Silver Pawn) and said it was a dump. TV makes it look much better than it really is. He said it was busy though.
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They buy lots stuff .... yes
Most items presented for TV are staged ... YEP they are.
But believe what you want.
It's fun and mostly make believe.
But they are TV stars now.. and probably make more off that then the shop.
I seriously doubt the producers are sitting around doing storyboards and trying to figure out some items to rustle up and plant there. They probably have a 6-9 month production schedule to hope to find maybe 50 items they'll actually film and get 15 shows out of.
A Vegas pawn shop, now famous, will probably have no problems finding that many legit items for the show - gold coins, pinball machines, cars, etc etc, that are what I would consider normal that are on every week, with a truly interesting/unusual piece coming in once in a while.
If they have an ad or something to the likes of "looking for interesting items for sale for possible tv appearance" and that's what folks are thinking is staged then....meh, that's like a film crew doing a period piece in a town and putting a call out for local vehicles from the 60s or something to use in the filming. I see no problem with that.
<< <i>The 'staging' that everyone like to talk about is that they decided when something is tv worthy. Then they'll put the motions together to get that item into the film/production process.
I seriously doubt the producers are sitting around doing storyboards and trying to figure out some items to rustle up and plant there. They probably have a 6-9 month production schedule to hope to find maybe 50 items they'll actually film and get 15 shows out of.
A Vegas pawn shop, now famous, will probably have no problems finding that many legit items for the show - gold coins, pinball machines, cars, etc etc, that are what I would consider normal that are on every week, with a truly interesting/unusual piece coming in once in a while.
If they have an ad or something to the likes of "looking for interesting items for sale for possible tv appearance" and that's what folks are thinking is staged then....meh, that's like a film crew doing a period piece in a town and putting a call out for local vehicles from the 60s or something to use in the filming. I see no problem with that. >>
I agree with you. Because of the show, I am sure many people catch an airplane out to the shop just to hawk their wares and get on television. Plus, it is free advertisement. If you have something unusual and expensive, 15 minutes of free advertising on tv would be worth your troubles. I agree that the only staging is probably deciding what gets placed in front of the actual tv stars and if it gets aired or not.
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<< <i>Hmmm. $25 on a ChumLee T-shirt? Or another ASE? Tough call... >>
Mustard stains wash off of a silver eagle and milk spots won't show up on a T-shirt.
Tough call is right.
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<< <i>who cares if it's fake. It's entertaining and I watch TV to be entertained >>
This is the correct answer.
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<< <i>I'm a little amazed at the popularity of that show. Pawning is complete exploitation of the poor. History wouldn't air Pimp Stars, would it? >>
The thing is humans have the power to say the word that we all probably learned to say at 13 months old. "no"The person selling has an item the pawn shop doesn't need. The pawn shop has cash the person needs. The bargaining power always belongs to the person in the least need and the person getting the cash usually walks away happy. Pawn shops aren't Goodwill. They're in the business to make a profit.
To me the biggest exploitation of the poor is the lottery. Government ran with government funded commercials claiming "million$$$" to be had to the winner and the poor dump every dollar chasing an unreachable dream then the govt' justifies its existence by saying it funds education and most of the money just disappears without anyone being able to explain what happened to the money. That's Illinois I'm talking about here.
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<< <i>I'm a little amazed at the popularity of that show. Pawning is complete exploitation of the poor. History wouldn't air Pimp Stars, would it? >>
I haven't seen one indigent person on that show trying to pawn something. Just about all of the aired segments are for items that are worth lots of $$$$$.
Last Saturday I decided to e-mail Pawn Stars hoping to get on the show with a round brass "pill" box I found in Texas 30 years ago. Pawn Stars replied that I should e-mail a picture of the item, which I did. Left for Vegas on Sunday and on Tuesday I recieved a call from Pawn Stars, their production company located in New York. They needed a clearer picture of my item and wanted to know if I could go on Saturday for the filming if choosen!!! Yea, things were looking good except when they called, I was on the golf course and my pics from my cell phone just weren't clear enough. 3 hours later I finally sent clear pics however they decided not to film my item.
As a fan of the show, I still went on Saturday to check out the store. There was a line of 50 people waiting to get in cause they were filming inside. Finally around 11a m inside filming was done and they let us in. Rick was still behind the counter talking with a customer, who was obvisously on the show and they were still filming some old document on the counter. People were looking and buying. Later I shook hands with Rick.
We left after 40 minutes and in the parking lot they were also filming an outside scene. customer comment.
Chumlee was supposed to come out, but he never did.
My concern is that they keep the prices "real" and not inflate or deflate them because that would mislead the public -- even in an entertainment program.
Here's a Vegas newspaper article:
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2010/apr/08/pawn-shop-boys/
Even Antiques roadshow is staged, and no foul there either.
Even in true "journalistic eithics" a documentary can have recreations of events as long as they are accurately depcted.
Well enough of that eithics talk. I like the show too.
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<< <i>I'm a little amazed at the popularity of that show. Pawning is complete exploitation of the poor. History wouldn't air Pimp Stars, would it? >>
Check MSNBC.
<< <i>There is nothing wrong with "staging" after all this is not a news program. It's an entertainment show.
My concern is that they keep the prices "real" and not inflate or deflate them because that would mislead the public -- even in an entertainment program.
Here's a Vegas newspaper article:
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2010/apr/08/pawn-shop-boys/
Even Antiques roadshow is staged, and no foul there either.
Even in true "journalistic eithics" a documentary can have recreations of events as long as they are accurately depcted.
Well enough of that eithics talk. I like the show too. >>
As someone who was on Antiques Roadshow, I can tell you that it is NOT staged.
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<< <i>I'm a little amazed at the popularity of that show. Pawning is complete exploitation of the poor. History wouldn't air Pimp Stars, would it? >>
The thing is humans have the power to say the word that we all probably learned to say at 13 months old. "no"The person selling has an item the pawn shop doesn't need. The pawn shop has cash the person needs. The bargaining power always belongs to the person in the least need and the person getting the cash usually walks away happy. Pawn shops aren't Goodwill. They're in the business to make a profit.
To me the biggest exploitation of the poor is the lottery. Government ran with government funded commercials claiming "million$$$" to be had to the winner and the poor dump every dollar chasing an unreachable dream then the govt' justifies its existence by saying it funds education and most of the money just disappears without anyone being able to explain what happened to the money. That's Illinois I'm talking about here.
If you think you see the day to day dealings of that store that keep it afloat - the bread and butter, if you will - on that show you're a fool. They've even said on air that 60% of their business is pawning but you rarely see anyone pawn an item. Wonder why? Because it's UGLY. That's why.