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  • I heard he's ghey too.
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


    << <i>I heard he's ghey too. >>



    oh snap!

    Is he the pitcher or the catcher?
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


    << <i>Just nutty false speculation. Nothing more. >>



    And who is being nutty? You really believe that nobody has or is doing PEDs in MLB? How is that speculation???

    Ok I will make some speculations since I am being accused of speculating.... LOOOOOOL!

    Maybe since you are more buff then Pujols maybe you do PEDs? Maybe you help supply Pujols with HGH and don't want Pujols - HGH being mentioned in the same sentence. Maybe you and Pujols inject each other. Maybe after Pujols goes in the shower you run over to his locker and sniff his used jock strap.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe you and Pujols inject each other. >>



    Not that there's anything wrong with that.......
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,899 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've gotten to see Albert ever since he was a Peoria Chief, and frankly he's not all that much bigger than he was then. You have to remember that these guys spend a lot of time in the gym. Of course they're going to look better as time goes by. That doesn't mean that they're juicing; it just means they're working out a lot and staying in shape. That's kind of a requirement when you're a pro athlete...remember? I swear, ever since the 80s no one can look defined without some uninformed nimrod accusing them of juicing based on rumors and half truths... OK, here's a new rumor for you. Roger Federer is on the juice; a freind of his third cousin's dentist's nephew's babysitter told me...

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  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've gotten to see Albert ever since he was a Peoria Chief, and frankly he's not all that much bigger than he was then. You have to remember that these guys spend a lot of time in the gym. Of course they're going to look better as time goes by. That doesn't mean that they're juicing; it just means they're working out a lot and staying in shape. That's kind of a requirement when you're a pro athlete...remember? I swear, ever since the 80s no one can look defined without some uninformed nimrod accusing them of juicing based on rumors and half truths... OK, here's a new rumor for you. Roger Federer is on the juice; a freind of his third cousin's dentist's nephew's babysitter told me... >>



    Bad example. Federer in my opinion has VERY likely used some type of PED at some point. He consistently beats everyone in a sport that makes MLB's and the NFL's jokes of drug testing look stringent. HGH, EPO, and blood transfusions. Recovery and endurance.

  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    A quick and simple solution to this grand question would be to simply ask Fandango how big Albert's jewels looked last time he saw them.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    HGH is for humans. Albert doesn't use HGH, because he isn't human.
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    A letter from Bud Selig to Albert Pujols...

    Ha Ha

    Roid Runner

    Did I just see Pujols with a syringe?
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Roid Runner >>



    FTW!

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  • << <i>I've gotten to see Albert ever since he was a Peoria Chief, and frankly he's not all that much bigger than he was then. >>



    HGH makes muscles leaner and tighter which makes the user stronger. Users do not gain bulk, they gain strength.

    Until the player's associations of MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL allow for random blood tests like they do random urine tests, we will never know who is truly clean. Until this happens, possibly legit players like Pujols will always be questioned.

    If HGH was available when baseball icons like Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, Mantle and Mays were playing we would question whether they were clean simply because they were so much better than their competition.

    I personally think a significant portion of NFL players and major leaguers, including Pujols, are using HGH but we will probably never know.
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


    << <i>

    << <i>I've gotten to see Albert ever since he was a Peoria Chief, and frankly he's not all that much bigger than he was then. >>



    HGH makes muscles leaner and tighter which makes the user stronger. Users do not gain bulk, they gain strength.

    Until the player's associations of MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL allow for random blood tests like they do random urine tests, we will never know who is truly clean. Until this happens, possibly legit players like Pujols will always be questioned.

    If HGH was available when baseball icons like Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, Mantle and Mays were playing we would question whether they were clean simply because they were so much better than their competition.

    I personally think a significant portion of NFL players and major leaguers, including Pujols, are using HGH but we will probably never know. >>



    Why bother? Even if they do take blood tests there will always be a heads up to notify so and so that there is an upcoming test. Unless a blood test can detect HGH and all other PED usage up to a year? From what I have read. HGH blood tests are not 100% yet. Who knows how long into a players past can it go to detect it?
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    well... we will see how some of the players preform when/if this is introduced if it ever is...

    Baseball Plans to Test for H.G.H. in Minors

    By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
    Published: February 23, 2010

    Major League Baseball, which had long been skeptical about a viable test for human growth hormone, now plans to implement blood testing for the substance in the minor leagues later this year, according to an official in baseball with direct knowledge of the matter.

    The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he did not want to be identified discussing a decision that has not yet been made public.

    The decision to move ahead with blood testing comes one day after a British rugby player was suspended for testing positive for H.G.H. It was the first time that an athlete had been publicly identified for testing positive for the substance and was seen as overdue proof that the blood test, which has been in limited use for six years, actually works.

    Over the past decade, the minor leagues have been the place where Commissioner Bud Selig has introduced new steps against the use of performance-enhancing drugs. The majority of minor leaguers are not members of the players union, which has allowed Selig to take drug-testing measures without the union’s consent. For instance, testing for steroids was initiated on the minor league level before the union later agreed to its use in the majors.

    Selig plans to use the same blueprint with H.G.H., with a second baseball official confirming on Tuesday that Selig will now move to get the union’s approval to test for H.G.H. on the major league level.

    In a statement in response to questions from The New York Times, Major League Baseball said it was “well aware of the important news with respect to” the positive drug test of the British athlete.

    “We are consulting with our experts concerning immediate steps for our minor league drug program and the next steps for our major league drug program,” the statement said. The National Football League also reacted to news of the positive H.G.H. test, with the spokesman Greg Aiello saying that “this is just further evidence that the testing has become reliable.”

    Although the unions in both baseball and football have accepted the use of urine tests for various performance enhancers, they have resisted blood testing and have questioned the reliability of any current test for H.G.H. As a result, it remains anyone’s guess as to how many players in the major leagues and the N.F.L. may be using the substance, which is believed to help build muscle and allow for quicker recovery from injury.

    And while Major League Baseball and N.F.L. saw the positive test of the rugby player as a significant development, their unions were far more restrained.“We believe we have the best drug-testing policy and there is no reason to forcefully implement any blood-testing at this time,” said George Atallah, a spokesman for the N.F.L. union. A spokesman for the baseball union said that it was consulting with its medical experts and declined further comment.

    In recent years, both Major League Baseball and the N.F.L. have provided hundreds of thousands of dollars in research financing to Don Catlin, a longtime anti-doping expert, in hopes that Catlin could produce a reliable urine test for H.G.H. and thus circumvent the issue of poking needles in players. Catlin has said he is making progress on the test but is not sure when it might be ready for widespread use.

    Selig concerned about his legacy as a commissioner who presided over the sport when use of performance enhancers was widespread, has adamantly supported an H.G.H. test.

    “When a valid, commercially available and practical test for H.G.H. becomes reality — regardless of whether the test is based on blood or urine — baseball will support the utilization of that test,” Selig said at a hearing before Congress in early 2008.

    In November of that year, Donald Fehr, then head of the baseball union, said he would consider support for an H.G.H. test “if and when a blood test is available and it can be signed and validated by people other than those that are trying to sell it to you.”

    “Then we’d have to take a hard look at it,” Fehr said.

    Until now, the biggest question raised about the H.G.H. blood test, which has been used at the past four Olympic Games, is why nobody was being caught. Officials for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the United States Anti-Doping Agency pointed out privately that athletes often used H.G.H. out of competition and not when events were taking place. And it was not until 2008 that kits were developed that allowed for wider out-of-competition testing.

    Nevertheless, Charles E. Yesalis, professor emeritus of exercise and sport science at Penn State and an antidoping expert, said Tuesday that although a rugby player had been caught he was still skeptical of the test’s efficacy.

    “They have this test for some time and they only caught one guy,” Yesalis said in a telephone interview. “I wouldn’t bet my life on that test.”

    But Major League Baseball appears ready to do so, at least on the minor league level.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    viagra! sleep on that one fellas....
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
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