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What is a fair punishment for a coin doctor?

seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
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In some countries they would loose a hand or 2.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In some countries they would loose a hand or 2. >>


    Well that's a bit rough. A couple of fingers on each hand would be sufficient.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>In some countries they would loose a hand or 2. >>


    Well that's a bit rough. A couple of fingers on each hand would be sufficient. >>




    Sir Isaac Newton sent counterfeiters to the gallows.

    Sounds right to me.

    Coin doctors deserve punishment only to the degree they ply their trade to defraud.
    Tempus fugit.
  • JohnnyBeGoodJohnnyBeGood Posts: 41
    Make him dip his coin?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Compensatory and punitive damages followed by a Nationally published ejection from the ANA or any other Numismatic Organization.

    Submission priviledges could be reinstated in 3012 but only for coins dated 3013 or newer.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully just outing them will do the job.
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  • SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭
    they should have to spend a minimum of one month... 24/7... with Laura image ... and they can't talk and MUST do whatever she tells them to do... image
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    The standard for child molesters is castration; for child killers/rapists it is being fixed to a bologna slicer set on automatic with the motor running.

    Coin "molesters" are quite a bit down the list.
  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    spelling and grammar lessons, for life. image
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,173 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The standard for child molesters is castration; for child killers/rapists it is being fixed to a bologna slicer set on automatic with the motor running.

    Coin "molesters" are quite a bit down the list. >>


    So... castration via screw press?
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>they should have to spend a minimum of one month... 24/7... with Laura image ... and they can't talk and MUST do whatever she tells them to do... image >>



    If they produce hamburger scented fear phermones it could get ugly! image
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, this thread got wrong in a hurry.

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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    "...Hopefully just outing them will do the job...


    Hi there,

    from reading that suit thread and others it seems many already know who some or many of these people are in the upper regions of the dealer world.

    Best,
    Eric
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They should be coated with a generous portion of Nipple Butter* and left in a barn full of cows with dry, itchy udders.




    * See earlier thread today regarding Nipple Butter and its alleged connection to coins.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    .......they should be exiled to Florida to a 55+ age trailer park in an hurricane evacuation zone and have there shuffleboard membership/privileges revoked.....along with a rumor spread amongst the other residents that they are broke...................image

    .......hell on earth!
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote for artificially toning them green.
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A coke bottle inserted in the rectum and slightly tapped until its broken...image

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A coke bottle inserted in the rectum and slightly tapped until its broken...image

    WS >>



    This needed a visual! imageimage

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭
    I don't know what is scarier, Watersport's idea, or the fact that Broadstruck has a picture of it. image

    Edited to add: Sorry, Xray, not a picture.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Give them jobs at the U.S. Mint making National Parks Quarters better.
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    Maybe they need to goto Greed Camp.

    If you really want torture, make then sit through a college business ethics class. image
  • BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803 ✭
    Throw them into the Smelter & see if they can be "refined" ?
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    TextThis needed a visual!

    image.......i'm not going to ask.........
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  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019 ✭
    Send them to a drag bar on Susan B. Anthony night.


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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dip 'em.
    Tempus fugit.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Make em grade state quarters 24/7 until they go stark raving mad.
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1. Putty their cracks.

    #2. Laser their hairlines.

    #3. Put nose grease on their fields, devices and rims.

    #4. Dip them [immersion up to their lips, then quickly remove them] in acetone while they are smoking a cigarette.

    #5. Dip them [total immersion for ten seconds] in undiluted jewel luster with their eyes, nose, mouth and ears open.

    #6. Bake them in an oven at 450 degrees for an hour, after giving them a thin coating of cooking oil.

    #7. Wrap them in Taco Bell napkins, set them on a window sill for two weeks in 110 degree plus direct sunlight.

    #8. Put them in a hole in a super sized Wayte Raymond album and place in a warm, dry closet for 40 years.

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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always thought it was a shame we've stopped putting people in stocks in the public square.

    I'd considered it a good punishment for the Enron/Wall Street types. I think it would do nicely for these folks as well.

    Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...



  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Triple damages (on the coins bought back) is a good start......then debtors jail!
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A night in bed with this guy.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Take him to the Everglades and use him for gator bait.
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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭
    How did Broadstruck get a picture of that? That is crazy! Goldbully's picture is great. Torture the coin doctors!image
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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If they are found guilty, I think it would be justifiable punishment for them to receive prison time, a heavy fine, and a strictly enforced permanent ban from owning, operating, or working for any business associated with coin and currency dealing or collecting.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if any of the coin doctors are reading this thread?image

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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    Broadstruck, you are insane! (That's not a bad thing....)I saved that photo to my hard drive. I have just the friend in mind to email it to. <evil grin>
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,944 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pay for everyones grading untill 6/4/11 image
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    When does the trial start ?
  • LewyLewy Posts: 594 ✭
    Given the current economic times (of which coin doctors are not immune) and all allegations of misdoing considered, I would think that a substantial Government bailout would be in order.
  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say, slice him open a little then dip him in Tarn-X and see how he likes it!!!
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭


    << <i>Triple damages (on the coins bought back) is a good start......then debtors jail! >>


    This along with establishing an escrow account for yet-to-be discovered "doctored coins".

    Who knows how many more are yet to be discovered and how much they might cost to buy back.

    Though I would also agree with some of the more "painful" punishments.
    Dan
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Random collectors should be allowed to put chemicals on them to see if they can get them to change colors. Then they can be displayed and people can guess AT or NT.image
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  • OregonCityGoldOregonCityGold Posts: 427
    "If they produce hamburger scented fear phermones it could get ugly!"

    Oh man! image
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Convicted coin doctors should be hermetically sealed in a gigantic plastic PCGS slab that says "Genuine- Coin Doctor," then displayed at the entrance to the next ANA show.
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>.......they should be exiled to Florida to a 55+ age trailer park in an hurricane evacuation zone and have there shuffleboard membership/privileges revoked.....along with a rumor spread amongst the other residents that they are broke...................image

    .......hell on earth! >>




    Well, there goes my neighborhood. image
  • icsoccericsoccer Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭
    Just the light of day will be all they fear the most!
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  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    When the PCGS buys back a doctored coin, it is paying for damage that was done by a coin doctor. It seems reasonable to me that, whenever feasible, the coin doctor should be reimbursing the PCGS for the buyback amount, paying for the harm done to the reputation of the PCGS, and maybe paying punitive damages as well. Moreover, it is hard to put a price on the damage done to the coin collecting community when important rare coins are ruined or just irreparably harmed. Collectors desire coins that do not have serious problems and doctoring coins tears into the traditions of coin collecting in the U.S. (Please see my series on collecting naturally toned coins.)

    In the lawsuit, the PCGS (CU) argues that submitting doctored coins is not just a breach of contract, the PCGS claims coin doctoring is both a civil offense and a criminal offense. I discuss these issues in my analysis of this lawsuit. I hope that the readers of this thread will read my analysis. I welcome comments from those who disagree with my positions or question my analysis for other reasons. Thank you.

    My Analysis of the PCGS Lawsuit Against Alleged Coin Doctors

    Last week's Column on Coin Rarities & Related Topics

    Complaint filed by CU-PCGS

    Natural Toning, Dipping and Coin Doctoring, Part 1

    Natural Toning, Dipping and Coin Doctoring, Part 3

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    The coin business is a business in "money". Creating enormous monetary fines would be sufficient IMHO. Jail/prison time is too harsh IMO.
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