Does this toned ASE stand a chance at getting graded?

coinsarefun

Really pretty, was stored in a US Mint gift box.
Thought to give it a shot but wondering how PCGS will perceive this one

doh

Maybe when this happens:

JJM

personally i dont think it should, but from what ive seen in holders lately , I think it will

edit to add @ a 69

TennesseeDave

The untoned area around the I in Liberty is very disracting.Might slab at 67.

mumu

I HATE that these things tone like this so fast. I think they contribute heavily to all the AT problems in the industry going around. Anyone else?

Bochiman

<< <i>I HATE that these things tone like this so fast. I think they contribute heavily to all the AT problems in the industry going around. Anyone else? >>



You can HATE it all you want, but at the purity level of the silver, it happens....and, it happens NATURALLY.

Steve27

Yes, PCGS will slab it in a regular holder.

123cents

Yes.

mumu

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<< <i>I HATE that these things tone like this so fast. I think they contribute heavily to all the AT problems in the industry going around. Anyone else? >>



You can HATE it all you want, but at the purity level of the silver, it happens....and, it happens NATURALLY. >>



I am not doubting that. Ive seen the countless number of radioactive ASE in PCGS holders. But people see these, then see similar colors on a Morgan and BAM you have a market for AT coin doctors.

StubbyMcNumbthumbs

I think the fact that it is only toned on one side and the other still nice and white, helps immensely.

A chance it will slab? There is always a chance, like rolling the dice, there's a chance you'll get double sixes. Submitting one of these is like rolling the dice any more.

Personally, I think it SHOULD slab. I like it, and see no reason why it shouldn't be in a graded holder.

Manorcourtman

I say no way.

Swampboy

Darned spot!

50/50 she makes it into PCGS plastic.
I say go for it!

(prolly cause it's not my dough)

Goldbully

<< <i>Really pretty, was stored in a US Mint gift box.
Thought to give it a shot but wondering how PCGS will perceive this one





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They perceived this one I bought from Russ!!!!

DRUNNER

Stef . . .

No pix (never have learned), but just the facts.

PCGS has been in flux on these. Disregarding the process of toning, they are quite normal for the issue, the storage, and the era.

I had most every shop in my area hold each toned SAE for a period of about 3 years. Bought them all for bullion plus a buck or so. I ended up with 32 stunners. People would just walk in to the local shops, upset because their prized SAE had 'tarnished' (usually in one of those "Snap-Fit" holders with the cardboard inserts--Happy Birthday, Happy Anniversary, etc.) They were mostly the same pattern; intense blue around the edge facing up, progressing to a harvest gold in the interior. A few were different, but most were that way, and ALL had blast white reverses (the oxygen couldn't get to the reverse that was down in the cardboard, inside the Snap-Fit).

On a whim (an expensive one) I sent all of them in around 2004. Latest one at the time was a 2003 (yes!) toner. I expected perhaps some might 'sympathy' slab.

Holy Cow! All 32. MS67 to MS69. 32/32. I have kept the most stunning but sold off about 20 of them in the last 6 years. Yup, most of those you are looking at in the moon money range at the big shows (that sit unsold) are from the original batch I sent in. I love to play with the dealers who have them, getting prices, then showing my Registry Set with the cert numbers and history, or flipping out a REAL gonzo one of mine when they are selling several for $450 each, asking what mine might be worth (with a consecutive serial number to the ones they are trying to sell). These sell (drum roll please as this info is about as valuable as the security codes in the President's 'football' briefcase) . . . for about $100-$125 and sometimes a bit more on Teletrade. But the well-traveled ones list for $400-$600.

But sorry, I digress . . .

Should they slab? Yes,. Will they. VERY hard to say. After my initial batch went through in 2004 I have yet to get one through, even though every one I've tried is identical to the ones I already possess and came from exactly the same (Snap-Fit) toning sources. Natural as can be for .999 silver. I am o-fer since that 2004 batch.

Yours should . . . it is stereotypically similar to almost all that have 'album' or 'Snap-Fit' toned. But there is a lot more going on in the grading room than we are aware of out here in collector-land.

I hope it works. If you try, let us know!

Good luck . .

Drunner

TwoSides2aCoin

You're terrorizing RickO.

Cheers,

Joe

coinsarefun

<< <i>Stef . . .

No pix (never have learned), but just the facts.

PCGS has been in flux on these. Disregarding the process of toning, they are quite normal for the issue, the storage, and the era.

I had most every shop in my area hold each toned SAE for a period of about 3 years. Bought them all for bullion plus a buck or so. I ended up with 32 stunners. People would just walk in to the local shops, upset because their prized SAE had 'tarnished' (usually in one of those "Snap-Fit" holders with the cardboard inserts--Happy Birthday, Happy Anniversary, etc.) They were mostly the same pattern; intense blue around the edge facing up, progressing to a harvest gold in the interior. A few were different, but most were that way, and ALL had blast white reverses (the oxygen couldn't get to the reverse that was down in the cardboard, inside the Snap-Fit).

On a whim (an expensive one) I sent all of them in around 2004. Latest one at the time was a 2003 (yes!) toner. I expected perhaps some might 'sympathy' slab.

Holy Cow! All 32. MS67 to MS69. 32/32. I have kept the most stunning but sold off about 20 of them in the last 6 years. Yup, most of those you are looking at in the moon money range at the big shows (that sit unsold) are from the original batch I sent in. I love to play with the dealers who have them, getting prices, then showing my Registry Set with the cert numbers and history, or flipping out a REAL gonzo one of mine when they are selling several for $450 each, asking what mine might be worth (with a consecutive serial number to the ones they are trying to sell). These sell (drum roll please as this info is about as valuable as the security codes in the President's 'football' briefcase) . . . for about $100-$125 and sometimes a bit more on Teletrade. But the well-traveled ones list for $400-$600.

But sorry, I digress . . .

Should they slab? Yes,. Will they. VERY hard to say. After my initial batch went through in 2004 I have yet to get one through, even though every one I've tried is identical to the ones I already possess and came from exactly the same (Snap-Fit) toning sources. Natural as can be for .999 silver. I am o-fer since that 2004 batch.

Yours should . . . it is stereotypically similar to almost all that have 'album' or 'Snap-Fit' toned. But there is a lot more going on in the grading room than we are aware of out here in collector-land.

I hope it works. If you try, let us know!

Good luck . .

Drunner >>






Thanks for the info.
I thought to take a try with that one and this one as well.
Its in an old PCI holder.

I will submit this in its old PCI holder to be safe.

braddick

Go for it.
Mine graded:

rainbowroosie

I think the coin is NT; having said that, recently I've had several NT coins BB'd....Life ain't fair.

Swampboy

That'99 looks scrumptious there Stef.
Goldbully's too.

I enjoy this one in its capsule but I do think about burning up a submission with it.

braddick

<< <i>Pat that coin is really a monster toner. >>



Thanks.
Here's a close-up:


And, here's another PCGS graded. Straight on it is the bluest blue, titled there is a shade of bluish green:

Flatwoods

Nice ones Pat.

And yes to the original question.

tightbudget

Personally I think it's NT. As far as PCGS slabbing it...maybe, maybe not. But I'd say more likely than not.

badboy

I have one at work sitting on a window sill that looks dog ugly (been there about 3 years).

coinman420

the first one graded about 2 or 3 years ago. the second one BB`ed a few months ago. no taco bell napkins needed.... only air and .999 silver.


oh yeah, some really nice toners have been posted and ricko`s eyes must be bleeding by now.

sinin1

I think it would have a slightly better chance if it was a 1987 rather than a 2007
I think it would have a slightly better chance if it was graded a couple years ago rather than now


Still probably has a 40-60% if slabbing a MS69 rather than gencode 91

Deagle74

Just wanna say it's a nice one Stefanie!!!(and hope it will slab)

I got two of those a while ago myself - but with a little different toning. Have to find some time to take pics - will post them on CRF .)

Bye, Rok

melvin289

Stefanie,

I posted a picture a couple of weeks ago of a 90-D quarter I had found in my safe. It had been in a bank envelope since 1990 I would guess. The folks on the Forum said there was no way it would grade. My only reply was it was NT and who would wait 20 years for a coin to AT. Good luck with the grading try.

Ron

ricko

Just the thought of all that silver and sulfur mixing and causing that lovely surface decomposition is painful. Fortunately I keep a few blast white ASE's by the computer for just such occasions. I quickly look at them, in their pristine beauty, and a nirvana-like calm envelopes me like a blanket, transporting me to a place where no corrosion can reach. Cheers, RickO

DenverDave

Yes...

Beats the heII out of Mike Spots...

coinsarefun

<< <i>Just the thought of all that silver and sulfur mixing and causing that lovely surface decomposition is painful. Fortunately I keep a few blast white ASE's by the computer for just such occasions. I quickly look at them, in their pristine beauty, and a nirvana-like calm envelopes me like a blanket, transporting me to a place where no corrosion can reach. Cheers, RickO >>

DeepCoin

I had a raw 2007-w Unc SAE that fell out of the box and toned wildly. It sold for a multiple of what the blast white ones did (on eBay). They are not all AT.

doh

I'm going to have to agree with Ricko on this one.

OPA

I've never seen so many AT Eagles in PCGS holders at the same time.

Swampboy

ttt for the weekend crowd.

Any more ASE toners to post?

DenverDave

Here ya go...