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What are the proper names for grades 64, 66, and 68?

Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭✭
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63 is choice. 65 is gem. 67 is superb gem. What are the descriptive terms for 64, 66, and 68?

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64 = Very Choice

    66= Choice Gem

    68 = As Made? or Fleur de Coin!

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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    64 is very choice
    66 is GEM (all caps)
    68 is Spectacular

    These are all my uses of those #'s.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What are the descriptive terms for 64, 66, and 68? >>



    64 - the max i can afford
    66 - rich guy material
    68 - daddy warbucks area of collecting
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very choice
    choice Gem
    very superb gem?
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    eh, ooh, aah
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64, 66, and 68

    Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>64, 66, and 68

    Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. >>



    Clearly, you have less than a full deck today, Andy.image
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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    I saw the following on Karl Stephens' website:

    "As the World Coin Expert/Authenticator for PCGS (Professional Coin Grading Service), I have seen thousands of encapsulated coins so I can safely say I am well familiar with how coins are graded by the service. Below are my adjectives/MS conversion.
    BU (MS-60); Nice BU (MS-61); Lovely BU (MS-62); Sharp BU (MS-63); Lovely Sharp BU (MS-64); Choice BU (MS-65); Lovely Choice BU (MS-66); Superb Choice BU (MS-67); Gem BU (MS-68)."


    Link.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>64, 66, and 68

    Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. >>



    In that case... Monday I have Friday on my mind image
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After reading Legends site today:

    64 - Gem coin - what were they thinking??

    66 - Monster full gem, a borderline 67!!!

    68 - GODZILLA coin, ultragem and ALL there.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clearly, you have less than a full deck today, Andy

    Julian, I don't know that I've ever seen my 52nd card.
    Andy Lustig

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  • joshieboijoshieboi Posts: 128
    GEM
    Superb GEM
    Perfect GEM
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Describing coins ,is a little like eating a big Thanksgiving dinner.

    A lot of gas and a big expansion in hyperbole.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Clearly, you have less than a full deck today, Andy

    Julian, I don't know that I've ever seen my 52nd card. >>




    But you certainly have the joker in there. image
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there an authortive reference that someone could cite because I would like to know also? And so far it looks like whatever you want is the rule.
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  • ProofCentsProofCents Posts: 1,656
    64 - Its a little rough
    66 - Wow that nice
    68 - Amazing
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>What are the descriptive terms for 64, 66, and 68? >>



    64 - the max i can afford
    66 - rich guy material
    68 - daddy warbucks area of collecting >>




    That's me too!
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I invented MS-63 and MS-67, but never bother to name them. Somebody else did that later.

    How about we name MS-64, MS-66 and MS-68 Larry, Moe and Curly???

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    (That's the Curly Shuffle there)
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64 = Nice coin
    66 = Overgraded coin
    68 = Yeah, right...
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In-between grades. It used to be Unc. Brilliant Unc. and Gem. But now Uncs span the MS 60 through MS 70 grades, so more detail was required.

    The Unc. used to be from MS 60 to MS 63, Brilliant Unc. from MS 63-4 to MS 65-6, and Gem anything higher. Even then, endless bickering ensured re liner coins whether one was Unc. or Brilliant Unc. (it was usually Brilliant Unc. when a dealer was selling it to you, and Unc. when you were trying to sell it to a dealer), and that sort of thing.

    The bickering still goes on, but on the new grading standards.
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Gem

    Gemstosh!

    Gemski!!
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  • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭
    MS64 = Near Gem

    MS66 = MS65+

    MS68 = It walks, it talks, it glows in the dark (At least I heard one described that way once)
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64 - Sixty Four
    66 - Raymond Luxury Yacht
    68 - Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern Schplenden Schlitter Crass Cren Bon Fried Digger Dingle Dangle Dongle Dungle Burstein von Knacker Thrasher Apple Banger Horowitz Ticolensic Grander Knotty Spelltinkle Grandlich Grumblemeyer Spelter Wasser Kurstlich Himble Eisenbahnwagen Gutenabend Bitte einen Nürnburger Bratwürstel Gespurten mit Weimache Luber Hundsfut Gumeraber Schönendanker Kalbsfleisch Mittleraucher von Hautkopft of Ulm
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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64 = near Gem
    66 = true Gem (or "Gem plus" which may not be the right term after the "big one")
    68 = exceptional Gem


    when trying to sell such coins;

    64 = I got robbed by the TPG's, it's really a super Gem
    66 = this one is really Superb, a definate upgrade canidate
    68 = finest known, unimprovable, perfect


    when buying such coins;

    64 = it's decent for a Choice Unc ... or ... I'm not sure that's really an Unc, looks like it could have some friction, a nice slider that slipped by
    66 = low-end Gem, probably would have to downgrade it to sell it
    68 = I see you got a gift on that one. Well it's in a coffin now


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  • mudskippiemudskippie Posts: 540 ✭✭
    IMO

    64= Uncirculated
    66= Gem BU
    68= Super Gem BU
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A leg

    Both legs

    Quadriplegic but happy!



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  • standforstandfor Posts: 40 ✭✭
    MS or PR ?
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-60 = Low End Unc/Proof
    MS-61 = Attractive Low end Unc/Proof
    MS-62 = Below Average Unc/Proof
    MS-63 = Average Unc/Proof
    MS-64 = Choice Unc/Proof
    MS-65 = Gem Unc/Proof
    MS-66 = Ultra Gem Unc/Proof
    MS-67 = Close to Perfect
    MS-68 = Almost Perfect
    MS-69 = Why not Perfect?
    MS-70 = Perfect
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SELECT.

    SUPERB GEM.

    MOOSE.

    peacockcoins

  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭


    << <i>63 is choice. 65 is gem. 67 is superb gem. >>



    64 is choice+++. 66 is gem+++. 68 is superb gem+++.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>SELECT.

    SUPERB GEM.

    MOOSE. >>




    Moose AND Squirrel!!!!

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