I have a question about an NCI certification

toyz4geo

Hi all,
I just picked this up at a local coin show yesterday. After reading the back of the certificate, I assume that this certification company was affiliated with Heritage Auctions. I also see it is dated 1985. The coin came in a large Capital type holder and the coin is correct for the picture on the certificate. My questions are:
1. Did these all come in a holder like this one? And did they come in a maroon cloth sleeve like is pictured behind the holder?
2. How accurate was the grading? Mine shows to be 65/65.
3. Would I be better served keeping it as it is or submitting it to PCGS or NGC for modern encapsulation?
I bought it because I thought it was neat and I had never seen one before.
Thanks,
George

commoncents05

1. No, they were not put in a plastic holder.
2. Generally, overgraded by a point or so. Depends on the coin though.
3. It's up to you.

-Paul

robkool

Do you have a close up pic of that Peace $ ??? I can tell you if this coin was accurately graded.

Baley

this didn't come to me with a photo certificate, just the slab as you see it here. the reverse of the slab tag refers to a photo cert.

toyz4geo

My photo skills aren't the best but here are a couple of pics:

robkool

Looks like a MS65 to me... Very clean fields & nice luster.

bushmaster8

Looks all there.

ricko

Assuming the color is due to the photograph, and not tarnish, that is a nice Peace Dollar.... and looks as if it could be 65. Cheers, RickO

rld14

<< <i>Looks like a MS65 to me... Very clean fields & nice luster. >>





If the luster is as nice as I suspect, lock 65

SoCalBigMark

<< <i>

this didn't come to me with a photo certificate, just the slab as you see it here. the reverse of the slab tag refers to a photo cert. >>

pmac

This is a fairly common coin, but the presentation seems rare. To submit it would seem to be counterproductive. Keep it as is and let everyone marvel at the holder, grade certificate, and storage bag. "But the holder, not the coin."

garrynot

I think it was cracked out of the original holder similar to what SoCalBigMark posted and put into something meant to replicate NGC's over-sized holder, in order to perserve the photo certificate. JMO.

Baley

the OP holder with the peace dollar looks like a Capital-type acrylic holder with the two-part plastic screws.

I'd leave it just as it is, were it in my collection.... submit it and it just becomes another coin in a slab.

sinin1

sleeve and holder are from Capital Plastics


you can find old ANACS cert coins in similar


you should try to get ahold of James Halperin's book N.C.I. Grading Guide
which goes into their grading copyright 1986



back then mint state was 60, 63, 65, 67, 69, 70
although NCI recommended and used intermediate grades

40% surface preservation + 20% strike + 20% Lustre + 20% eye-appeal


I heard they closed down when auction house grew and some agency got after them (feds or sec?)

relicsncoins

The plastic is after market, as I have several of them with Anacs photo certificates. The NCI slab is after these photo certificates. I've owned a few of these NCI photo certificate coins, all Morgans. About half of them were over graded by 1 point, and half were graded correctly. I had 4 or 5 of them, not a huge sample, but should give you an idea of the level of grading.

Connecticoin

Nice Peace Dollar!

I have an ANACS photocert MS65 Roanoke in a holder like that, nice tab toning, probably undergraded by a point now, but I did not have the heart to crack it out.

toyz4geo

Thanks for all the info and insights. I just thought it was a neat item and will probably just keep it as is in my collection. I tend to go after the old and offbeat stuff.
George

pursuitofliberty

George,

Welcome (about a year late), and I think it's very interesting and kewl. As has been stated, a very nice aftermarket presentation as well ... and from the pictures, spot on grade wise.

I still have a coin that used to have a NCI photo cert .. a 36-S Merc' Dime that is still in my raw set. I purchased it in 1988 that way. If I remember correctly it was graded MS-64/64. It is a very solid 64. My memory was that NCI was pretty accurate.

Unfortunately, a few years later we had a burglary at the house in Seattle, and my two ANACS and one NCI certificates were with a small group of early Cameo Jeffersons and other miscellaneous stuff that was stolen that day. Thankfully they didn't find that coin or some of the others, as in those days, I kept everything at home.

Thanks for sharing!



and Baley ... kewl NCI slab! Looks like a great coin inside there.