Who's going to be the first to admit they cracked out a Secure

AUandAG

Plus and resubmitted? Who will be first to test the system of Laser identification?
Hmmmmmmmm, I'm fairly certain that PCGS has done this over and over but do
we believe that it's fail safe?
Will this be the new "doctor" challenge for sharp minds?
bob

RYK

I know who it won't be...me. )

COALPORTER

Didn't PCGS state once that they would "take action" against repeat coin doctor offenders, or people that knowingly submit doctored coins ?

BigE

PCGS has to have a list of people who can't submit, thats about all they can do I imagine------------BigE

Baley

I've cracked rattlers, fatties, gen2 greenies, doilies, most generations of pcgs and ngc, old and new pci, very old and old anacs (new anacs cracked itself), segs (just once and took as long to do as all te others put togeher), numerous self-slabbers,
but not yet new prong ngc or secure plus pcgs. , , , mostly because I stopped buying coins when the kids were born.

I'm unlikely to be the first, but I'll surely be in the ranks one day

I like to get the authenticity and grade estimate and then look at the coin itself

pursuitofliberty

I'm with Baley here ... I have cracked so many coins ... but it's funny, because I just keep them as raw and haven't resubmitted any of them I don't think. Maybe someday.

I have submitted a few coins, but those were raw first ... and I have used PCGS almost exclusively for submissions.

As far as PCGS plastic goes (and sometimes NGC - depending), if it's the right grade (IMO) I usually won't crack it out unless I want it for an album set.

I figure if the coin already has the right "dinner jacket", I just let those be. No reason to pay again for another opinion.

As far as Secure Plus goes, not many coins I collect at this time would likely be submitted for that service ... but when the time comes, I guess I'll decide.

Hell, I finally bought a CAC'd coin (77-S Seated Half), and I'm thinking about turning it into an album piece ... but since it's already in the right holder (PCGS), and at the right grade (AU53), I probably won't.

ocon4008

<<I know who it won't be...me.>>

I believe the technology works.

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AUandAG

<< <i>I think if one were to crack out a secure plus coin because they thought it was undergraded... they would submit it regular the second time. I don't think anyone is going to be testing the laser recognition for quite a while. >>



My thoughts exactly. You may very well be correct. 30 seconds a scan and two sides = 1 minute per coin.
Really labor intensive.

bob

lkeigwin

I can see cracking-out a SP that didn't make the grade and resubmitting it for non-SP service.

PCGS has to be really, really selective about assigning a plus in order not to hurt SP non-plus'd coins.

Did that make any sense to anyone but me?
Lance.

TwoSides2aCoin

I'll be the first to admit that I don't have coins worthy of submitting for this service.

ricko

Someone, at some time, will do it.. likely sooner than later. Like the idiot that bought the new Ipad and then destroyed it on film for YouTube... dam* fool. Cheers, RickO

anablep

<< <i>new anacs cracked itself >>



Lol Baley....

notwilight

<< <i>Didn't PCGS state once that they would "take action" against repeat coin doctor offenders, or people that knowingly submit doctored coins ? >>



Resubmitting isn't doctoring.

However, I don't think the OP question is a test. My guess is the coin will come back in a holder with the same grade and no comment from PCGS. What do you want them to do, put a note in the return shipment "OK, care to try again?" I think they will take your money as long as you want to resubmit it. After enough times they may have a comment as submitting a coin dozens of times until it finally upgrades was one of the things mentioned in the video as stopped by the new program. But they probably have a responsibly to stockholders to quietly pocket your money and return the coin properly graded. They will have multiple fingerprints of the same coin now in their database.

--Jerry

Barry

<< <i>I think if one were to crack out a secure plus coin because they thought it was undergraded... they would submit it regular the second time. I don't think anyone is going to be testing the laser recognition for quite a while. >>


I have no doubts the laser recognition works for a simple resubmission. I have my doubts about a coin that has been changed somehow, such as doctored, toned, etc.

BAJJERFAN

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<< <i>I think if one were to crack out a secure plus coin because they thought it was undergraded... they would submit it regular the second time. I don't think anyone is going to be testing the laser recognition for quite a while. >>


I have no doubts the laser recognition works for a simple resubmission. I have my doubts about a coin that has been changed somehow, such as doctored, toned, etc. >>



I'd guess hey probably tested it out on cheap pocket change.

BAJJERFAN

All this talk about crackouts just cracks me up.

drei3ree

<< <i>I'll be the first to admit that I don't have coins worthy of submitting for this service. >>



But you get a freebie this quarter?

mozin

If I had to choose between a SecurePlus Bustie, without the Plus, and what I thought was a PQ Bustie in a regular PCGS holder, the regular holder would easily win. The coins in the SecurePlus, without the Plus, in my opinion are less desirable than coins in the regular holders.

I sent in my freebie for SecurePlus, just could not resist on this coin. The dealer who sold it to me honestly thought it would upgrade.