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corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
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I love listings like this that say something like "1967 Baseball Set" in the title and then in small print say that it contains x amount of cards. This particular one and all of this sellers listings has a book value for the entire set listed yet all of his "sets" contain less than a third of the cards in the set. I think someone is in for a big disappointment.

1967 "set"

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  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    That is pretty scumbaggy. Everything about that title and description implies he is selling a complete set except the words "203 cards".
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
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    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭
    That is very shady. The worst part is he list the price for a complete set to fool you. I would bet anything that the Mantle or Mays are not in his "set". I think I will ask him.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭
    I just asked if the Mantle and Mays are included. We will see what he says.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I'm quite certain the Mantle isn't part of it because he specifically lists and pictures the Mantle in all of his other partial sets that have it included.
  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    I can see having a title that makes you open it, but that is just asking for trouble.
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    Pretty safe bet the Mantle and Mays aren't in there. 99 of the 203 cards are pictured, and the biggest star I see is Jim Kaat.

    Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. Hope it's a hell of a nice binder.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    OK, I'm just cranky enough tonight to report it. Done.

    Side note - Why TF does Ebay give you such a small number of characters to explain your report?
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  • DrLouDrLou Posts: 250
    On eBay "estate find" = basement full of junk.

    Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. --How dare you lump Jim Kaat in with the other commons! I think Beckett books him around $60 probably image
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty safe bet the Mantle and Mays aren't in there. 99 of the 203 cards are pictured, and the biggest star I see is Jim Kaat.

    Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. Hope it's a hell of a nice binder. >>



    I don't even think they were NM. They look more in the EX+ range just like all of his other auctions in the "vintage collection". He does give a NM book price though, lol.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Pretty safe bet the Mantle and Mays aren't in there. 99 of the 203 cards are pictured, and the biggest star I see is Jim Kaat.

    Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. Hope it's a hell of a nice binder. >>



    I don't even think they were NM. They look more in the EX+ range just like all of his other auctions in the "vintage collection". He does give a NM book price though, lol. >>



    I'm sure Ebay will jump all over my report. image
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  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358


    << <i>Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. Hope it's a hell of a nice binder. >>



    No, someone bid $900 for that. There's still hope they catch the foolishness before they pay
    Tom
  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭


    << <i>I'm sure Ebay will jump all over my report. >>


    Pretty sure it's already in the recycling bin. Nice feedback though, bid with confidence if you're buying a pinball machine off of this guy.
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
    ~WalterSobchak
  • diamondmandiamondman Posts: 2,020
    If u are to stupid NOT to read the description, well u deserve it. More power to the seller. I bet alot of people wish it was their listing.
    I just get P.O anymore I describe the item exactly and end up with low bids and no money, and then there are idiots like this that describe an item with a little deception and wow 900 bucks for a bunch of commons. I can't believe how many times idiots like this get away with this crap, but more power to them, I have listed items on the BST and got no response then list them on Ebay and get 20 to 50 % more then what I was asking on the BST boards.

    I think alot of the crying is wishing it was your listing. as barnum & bailey said one born every minute.

    Sorry I have about lost all pity for idiot buyers like this. We all started collecting somewhere and we all have been burned one time or another so everyone pays for their education , just some people pay more. JMHO

    PS: ( wish it was my 67 topps 203 card set) (opps i read the description 203 cards).
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  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    Agreed. If I am bidding $900 on something you better believe I want to know all about it. The seller clearly states 203 cards. Is it deceptive? Yes. But is it there where you can clearly see it? Yep. So, the bidder is a moron.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yes, very misleading in a number of ways...condition, listing "set" value when it's not the set...I didn't spend much time looking at it further...another weasel seller on ebay.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,260 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>On eBay "estate find" = basement full of junk.

    Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. --How dare you lump Jim Kaat in with the other commons! I think Beckett books him around $60 probably image >>




    <<< On eBay "estate find" = basement full of junk. >>>

    Ain't that the truth! LOL

    I would imagine if it was added up - there might be more "estate sales" for cards on ebay per year than actual deaths in the United States per year. LOL
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The seller is a crook.
    The buyer is an idiot.
    A match made in heaven.
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    Ralph

  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭
    The seller got back to me. The only Mays card in his "set" is the leader card and the Mantle is not included.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • ymareaymarea Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭
    That is an absolute joke. One need only look at the seller's feedback score to know enough to stay away. (My apologies to anyone out here with a similiarly low score.)

    WalterSobchak said it best with, "Basically, someone just paid 914 bucks for a couple hundred NM '67 commons. Hope it's a hell of a nice binder."
    Brett
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    A more appropriate word would have been 'lot'

    Maybe the seller is ignorant of the term?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • minnesotahuskerminnesotahusker Posts: 642 ✭✭✭
    This goes back to the listing of PSA cards with qualifiers that has been much talked about here.

    Description says "xxxx card PSA 9." Don't mention the qualifier in the body of the listing...just rely on you to look at the pictures. Scumbaggy!!
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    It depends on what your definition of set is...


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  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    If anyone thinks this guy is not a crook, take a look at the last pic. Why would he even include a pic of about 20 binders full of cards if they were not included?
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If anyone thinks this guy is not a crook, take a look at the last pic. Why would he even include a pic of about 20 binders full of cards if they were not included? >>



    i saw that as well.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    Of course it's on the buyer to carefully read every bit of info on an auction, especially at that price, but IMO there is no honest reason for the way in which his auctions are structured/worded.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    The word "set" is used in the listing


    "set...set...more sets ........value of this 1967 topps set........set .........set.....".


    SIX TIMES.


    As long as PayPal is in the mix, the buyer will have NO problem getting a refund
    if he is not satisfied with his purchase.


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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    The seller may well be OK; he corrected/annotated his description after I emailed him.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller may well be OK; he corrected/annotated his description after I emailed him. >>




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