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I'm not sure I believe the veracity of this auction item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250588443956&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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I'm not saying it's not possible that this coin was released by the GSA in this fashion, I'm just saying I find it a bit hard to believe. As I recall the early sales by the GSA, bidders were allowed to "win" one coin of each date. These coins were then shipped in single boxes (as the one pictured) but with a USPS-approved mailing label.

After the first series of sales in the early to mid 70's, many of the common date coins remained....especially those from the mixed CC category....those that were too bagmarked or "tarnished" to go into the GSA Uncirculated holders. The coins were held by the GSA (many had been date-stamped on the outer boxes) and were finally sold in the 1980 sale via the boxes of 5.

From the chart below, Van Allen & Mallis, who had access to the GSA CC dollars before the sales, noted that all of the 1878-CC's (with the exception of 3) had been sold during their initial offering at $15 each. Those 3 were probably coins that were out on loan.....as many had been loaned out as promotional material.

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Should anyone wish to propose an alternate hypothesis of how this coin was released as such, I'd be glad to listen.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425


    << <i>Auction Link >>



    Thanks, don't know why I keep forgetting to do that.image
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you read his feedback you'll see that there were at least 6 individuals that
    questioned the originality of these "unopened" sets/boxes, etc.

    Hmmmm, run away.

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425


    << <i>If you read his feedback you'll see that there were at least 6 individuals that
    questioned the originality of these "unopened" sets/boxes, etc.

    Hmmmm, run away.

    bob >>



    I actually hadn't read that. Interesting indeed.
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    I think his user name says it all "deathwish"
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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
    cool, and handy chart.
    It's a keeper.

    Thanks.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm not buying into that. theres things that dont add up on the feed back as well such as to much nice stuff. i dunno
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you read his feedback you'll see that there were at least 6 individuals that
    questioned the originality of these "unopened" sets/boxes, etc.

    Hmmmm, run away.

    bob >>



    Yep, this guy's a sleaze.

    Russ, NCNE
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    MitchellMitchell Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭
    The seller has several items like that:

    Funky ebay listings

    I agree with what GSAGuy says. The stamped date on any of the boxes don't look right either.

    Successful BST: dmwjr, ike126, bajjerfan, morganman94, sonoradesertrat, 12voltman, duiguy, gsaguy, gsa1fan, martin, coinfame, zas107, bothuwui, gerard, kccoin, jtwitten, robcool, coinscoins, mountain_goat, and a few more.
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    "New outer cardboard,scuffy plastic cased, very common 1883cc- looks repackaged"
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    gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425


    << <i>"New outer cardboard,scuffy plastic cased, very common 1883cc- looks repackaged" >>



    I've seen a number of original unopened GSA's opened and none every displayed scuffy plastic.
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    This guy gets some amazing unopened stuffimage

    Early Proof Sets in multiples (38-42) of which I have never ever seen in 25 years in the busines....and I look.

    Of Course everyone that bought these and opened them appears to ahve had a problem, but If sure it was jsut a mint employee whizzing coins, or and errent GSA employee scratching GSA cases before they packed them.

    It's absolutely amazing a seller like this has a 99% + feedback rating.

    He's just a common theifimage
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    I asked him if he would guarantee an 1878-CC in the box?

    We'll see what he says?
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

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    MitchellMitchell Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think that the presence of an 1878CC or not will be the issue. It'll be about the condition of the coin. For most, part of the "thrill" of having an unopened GSA is the potential for a high grade despite the actual odds. This auction is a guarantee that the condition of the coin will not be anything other than low grade uncirculated.
    Successful BST: dmwjr, ike126, bajjerfan, morganman94, sonoradesertrat, 12voltman, duiguy, gsaguy, gsa1fan, martin, coinfame, zas107, bothuwui, gerard, kccoin, jtwitten, robcool, coinscoins, mountain_goat, and a few more.
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    gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    Ended auction results

    I don't doubt there's an 1878-CC inside. But what's one cost in MS60 or 61........$250? Quite the profit if what I suspect happened actually happened.
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    MitchellMitchell Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭
    He's back....

    "unopened" 1878CC GSA auction

    Check the feedback.

    I'd stay away.
    Successful BST: dmwjr, ike126, bajjerfan, morganman94, sonoradesertrat, 12voltman, duiguy, gsaguy, gsa1fan, martin, coinfame, zas107, bothuwui, gerard, kccoin, jtwitten, robcool, coinscoins, mountain_goat, and a few more.
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    He has no pictures on any of the proof sets he is selling!!
    Positive:
    BST Transactions: DonnyJf, MrOrganic, Justanothercoinaddict, Fivecents, Slq, Jdimmick,
    Robb, Tee135, Ibzman350, Mercfan, Outhaul, Erickso1, Cugamongacoins, Indiananationals, Wayne Herndon

    Negative BST Transactions:
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As before... stay away.... sleazebag..... Cheers, RickO

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