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What I want from a coin dealer

tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
Treat me with respect
Have access to the best coins
Have reasonable markups
Be honest
Pay me promptly as promised
If you say you're giving me first shot, do it


I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! image
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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    I hear you so where are these dealers at for the unwashed masses?
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure, once you know the dealer and they give you what you want, spelling no longer matters.

    But if a dealer wants to present themselves as professional and attract new customers via their website, spell check is probably a good idea.
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    Dealer and collector relationship is built on trust- Trust comes via communication- Communication comes via spoken and written word- Helps when that written word is spelled correctly.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN's 7 pre-equisites translate to the 7 P's: proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance! image
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless the spelling errors were on the prices I dont think I care much about the spelling issue.
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, unfortunately, Legend is missing out on the market of spelling champions who collect coins! image
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    GIVE ME HONEST SERVICE, AT A REASONABLE PRICE , WITH A SOUPCON OF HONESTY,
    AND I DO NOT CARE IF THE DEALER HAS NO TEETH AND GREEN HAIR. A LITTLE SCARY
    PERHAPS, BUT I WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.
    There once was a place called
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What I want from a coin dealer, that I am the financial backer of. >>


    I fixed it for you. image





    << <i>Treat me with respect
    Have access to the best coins
    Have reasonable markups
    Be honest
    Pay me promptly as promised
    If you say you're giving me first shot, do it


    I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! image >>

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>GIVE ME HONEST SERVICE, AT A REASONABLE PRICE , WITH A SOUPCON OF HONESTY,
    AND I DO NOT CARE IF THE DEALER HAS NO TEETH AND GREEN HAIR. A LITTLE SCARY
    PERHAPS, BUT I WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. >>



    excellent use of soupçon bear! ryk would be proud.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Access to great coins
    treat me fairly
    first shot in my collecting discipline with established relationship
    Great communication (spelling championship belt not required. As long as they spell my name correctly on the check when I sell I'm down with that)

    MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,662 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What I want from a coin dealer, that I am the financial backer of. >>


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    What's that got to do with anything? image
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Some folks like taking potshots no matter what......
    They also like to make assumptions, true or not, on where a thread was meant to go

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    You mentioned the part of you don't care how they spell. That's why I fixed it for you. I was joking this time. No "potshot whatsoever. I forgot, if it ain't happy talk it's taking a shot, and not allowed. My bad.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭


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    You mentioned the part of you don't care how they spell. That's why I fixed it for you. I was joking this time. No "potshot whatsoever. I forgot, if it ain't happy talk it's taking a shot, and not allowed. My bad. >>



    did not tdn use the same joke on rwb in an earlier legend thread?
    my first reaction to tdn's post was that sounds a lot like legend but
    that is not surprising as she is well known and recommended by the
    community. so seeing the joke by stman was sorta expected.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Treat me with respect
    Have access to the best coins
    Have reasonable markups
    Be honest
    Pay me promptly as promised
    If you say you're giving me first shot, do it



    That's a good start.

    And I agree that spelling is not of paramount importance.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bruce, the people who get access / first shot to the best coins / best coins for the grade are the people who consistently spend the most on them, which leaves me, and most of us, off the bus.

    By the time I see a nice coin, it has traded hands at least a few times and been marked up accordingly, so by the time I see it, the markup is not reasonable. This is why I have bought two coins in the last two years and a few months.
    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the people who get access / first shot to the best coins / best coins for the grade are the people who consistently spend the most on them, which leaves me, and most of us, off the bus.


    I disagree. The people that get access are usually the people that work hardest to get access.

    By the time I see a nice coin, it has traded hands at least a few times and been marked up accordingly, so by the time I see it, the markup is not reasonable. This is why I have bought two coins in the last two years and a few months.

    I'm curious, if you only found two coins that were reasonably priced, how many did you find (that you would like to own) that were unreasonably priced?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    What I want from a coin dealer


    To be treated like I would treat you if on the other side of the table/counter/computer screen.


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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    communication is a two way street and without it very little happens.

    as a very small B&M shop I have some regular customers that get treated just a little different from the rest.

    in fact some have become friends.

    I have been selling and buying coins from 1998 and to my suprise I have meet more dishonest collectors that dealers. That is sad image
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The ad nauseum comments on spelling jumped the shark over a year ago. Try something different, like, for example, defining the word "dreck".
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    littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Treat me with respect
    Have access to the best coins
    Have reasonable markups
    Be honest
    Pay me promptly as promised
    If you say you're giving me first shot, do it


    I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! image >>




    This was really well put. After seriously dealing for some 13 years, and collecting for some 50 yrs, I wholeheartedly include Legend, Andy Kimmel, Joe Kaminisky and a few others who fit these requirements. I couldn't care less who is a part owner, etc., and such "enlightening" comments/digs are equally old and annoying. I judge dealers by their integrity and how they deal with me. That's the bottom line.


    Larry L.


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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "What I want from a coin dealer"

    A fair shake both buying and selling. A nice "Hello" before a deal and a "Thank You" after the deal goes a long way also.

    Ken
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


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    Hey! I like that one!image
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the people who get access / first shot to the best coins / best coins for the grade are the people who consistently spend the most on them, which leaves me, and most of us, off the bus.

    I disagree. The people that get access are usually the people that work hardest to get access.

    Andy, I think you're wrong. This is a busines; it's all about the money. People who spend the most money are the ones who get first shot at the coins I described.

    By the time I see a nice coin, it has traded hands at least a few times and been marked up accordingly, so by the time I see it, the markup is not reasonable. This is why I have bought two coins in the last two years and a few months.

    I'm curious, if you only found two coins that were reasonably priced, how many did you find (that you would like to own) that were unreasonably priced?

    I found three other dealer coins (and one auction coin) I would like to own during this time, but their prices to me appeared to be excessive, so I passed on them. Of my two purchases, one was an auction coin, while the other was a dealer coin.
    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What I want from a coin dealer:

    1) Coins
    2) Fair Prices
    3) A relationship built on trust
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    MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    "I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! "
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    I disagrie, speleng iz vary emportent too mi.

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Good spelling skills are a plus, but I would rather have a dealer who's bad at spelling but can locate the best coins than a dealer who can spell but can't find nice coins.
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    You might do better to think what the coin dealer wants. Try "I have $1000 cash to spend. What's been in your display case so long that you're sick of it?"

    If you are not looking for a specific coin, but open to buying a range of quality coins, you can get some real bargains.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the people who get access / first shot to the best coins / best coins for the grade are the people who consistently spend the most on them, which leaves me, and most of us, off the bus.

    I disagree. The people that get access are usually the people that work hardest to get access.

    Andy, I think you're wrong. This is a busines; it's all about the money. People who spend the most money are the ones who get first shot at the coins I described.

    By the time I see a nice coin, it has traded hands at least a few times and been marked up accordingly, so by the time I see it, the markup is not reasonable. This is why I have bought two coins in the last two years and a few months.

    I'm curious, if you only found two coins that were reasonably priced, how many did you find (that you would like to own) that were unreasonably priced?

    I found three other dealer coins (and one auction coin) I would like to own during this time, but their prices to me appeared to be excessive, so I passed on them. Of my two purchases, one was an auction coin, while the other was a dealer coin. >>

    Jeff, I disagree about any generalizations regarding who gets first shot at the best coins. Often, it is a matter of who has certain coins on their want lists. I know of many great coins that go to clients who spend far less than others.
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    << <i>"I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! "
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    I disagrie, speleng iz vary emportent too mi.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,097 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>"I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! "
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    I disagrie, speleng iz vary emportent too mi.

    ~ >>



    imageimage >>


    Don, you can throw me out if this is a violation. But that's some funny stuff there.
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    I just want the coins
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    PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    << the people who get access / first shot to the best coins / best coins for the grade are the people who consistently spend the most on them, which leaves me, and most of us, off the bus.

    I disagree. The people that get access are usually the people that work hardest to get access.

    Andy, I think you're wrong. This is a busines; it's all about the money. People who spend the most money are the ones who get first shot at the coins I described.

    By the time I see a nice coin, it has traded hands at least a few times and been marked up accordingly, so by the time I see it, the markup is not reasonable. This is why I have bought two coins in the last two years and a few months.

    I'm curious, if you only found two coins that were reasonably priced, how many did you find (that you would like to own) that were unreasonably priced?

    I found three other dealer coins (and one auction coin) I would like to own during this time, but their prices to me appeared to be excessive, so I passed on them. Of my two purchases, one was an auction coin, while the other was a dealer coin. >>

    Jeff, I disagree about any generalizations regarding who gets first shot at the best coins. Often, it is a matter of who has certain coins on their want lists. I know of many great coins that go to clients who spend far less than others.

    Mark, I couldn't agree with you more (and no disrespect to you Jeff).

    My customers/collectors that work mutually with me to establish a good relationship of trust and respect will get first shot and a fair deal for us both. The $ amount doesn't matter whatsoever. If you help me keep current with your want list and understand the preferences you have for a coin such as toning, etc. I will work my butt off to do my best for you. It's all about a working relationship where we both succeed.

    Ken, you're so right a thank you both ways is very meaningful as well.

    Glenn
    The End of the Line in the West.

    Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with everything you ask for TDN but whos to say what the best coins are?
    you? I? Pcgs? Ngc?
    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    What i want from a coin dealer?
    Sell to me at Bluesheet
    Buy from me at Greysheet
    Always pay in cash
    give me first shot at new material

    (lol)image
    Love those toned Washingtons
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    HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭
    In this age of technology there's no excuse for poor spelling. If you really take the time to care about how you're presenting yourself, and you actually respect your audience, you take the time to be right.

    As a professional employer, what happens when you get a resume with poor spelling and structural mistakes?

    That being said, Albert Puhols applies to work at your company and you have a softball team, you might not care as much.
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I disagree about any generalizations regarding who gets first shot at the best coins

    I think it's less filling AND tastes great. image

    I used to "work" very hard at getting "first shot" at coins for years - would call the Monday after EVERY major show to inquire what had come available from my primary dealer at the time. Was offered first shot at many coins simply by being the "bird in hand".

    Calling it work is a joke - it was alot of fun.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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    It's unlikely you'll get past the first item on your list.
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    Blackborder, everyone's got to eat so i don't really ever expect things to go quite by my list.image
    Love those toned Washingtons
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A dealer that knows what side of the toast the jam is on

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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    << <i>Blackborder, everyone's got to eat so i don't really ever expect things to go quite by my list.image >>




    First item on the OP's list.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,097 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jeff, I disagree about any generalizations regarding who gets first shot at the best coins

    I think it's less filling AND tastes great. image

    I used to "work" very hard at getting "first shot" at coins for years - would call the Monday after EVERY major show to inquire what had come available from my primary dealer at the time. Was offered first shot at many coins simply by being the "bird in hand".

    Calling it work is a joke - it was alot of fun. >>



    I like that. It's relationship building and coin collecting all rolled into one.
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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If people do not have the time to proof read their own work, why would they expect anyone else read it?
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    << <i>Treat me with respect
    Have access to the best coins
    Have reasonable markups
    Be honest
    Pay me promptly as promised
    If you say you're giving me first shot, do it


    I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPELL! image >>


    Tradedollarnut, I can empathize with your frustrations, it's brutal out there. FWIW, I buy all my rare and expensive coins from a dealer who simply goes by, "Guido." Find him at Augostino's, Elmwood Park, Harlem at Grand, back table, most nights...
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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Hey! I like that one!image >>



    It is often accompanied by 'Lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.'
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    give me first shot at new material

    And if the situation were reversed, how should a collector decide which dealer to offer "a first shot at new material"?

    I mention this specifically because I'm wrestling with this very issue. Does a collector owe anything to any dealer if he wants to shop a coin around before he entertains offers? I say no, he doesn't.

    Therefore, why should a collector "expect" first shot at anything, unless he is financially-tied to a specific dealer?
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    << <i>If people do not have the time to proof read their own work, why would they expect anyone else read it? >>




    Funny... how would you (or anyone else) even know whether or not it was proof read UNLESS you actually read it? Kind of ironic, no?


    Anyhoo... all I ever want from a coin dealer is nice coins at fair prices... a friendly attitude is also nice... but not a requirement...just as long as they are not nasty or mean spirited... (a shower before the show and not having beans or cabbage the nite before are also helpful qualities)...

    ...and for the record... all I want from a coin collector is a modicum of respect and that they clean their hands before leaning on my cases image
    ...again... a friendly attitude is also nice... but not a requirement... just as long as they are not nasty or mean spirited... (PS... also helps if they realize that the coins in my boxes are all in order by date... is it so hard to keep it that way?) (a shower before the show and not having beans or cabbage the nite before are also helpful qualities)... image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You spelling guys are going to have to find someone else to pick on.

    Rumor has it that Legend has hired a former Mint Director from a certain South American country to direct their international operations and run spell-check. As a gesture of goodwill they will have a special on coins of the ancient Aztec city of CHIIE.image
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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<What I want from a coin dealer, that I am the financial backer of>>

    that's precious.

    edit:image
    Have a nice day

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