Can a non dealer bring coins and cash on the plane?

mkman123

Hi all, have a question...........if your not a dealer, can you bring coins and cash on the plane or do you have to fill out some form on its value, etc????

Thanks!

PerryHall

Since there are no licensing requirements, just call yourself a dealer.

RWB

Nope. Only coin dealers can fly with coins and keep their clothes on. Everyone else has to fly naked...and no hiding original bank wrapped rolls, either!

Seriously - There's nothing special about coin dealers except they fly a lot and are accustomed to the questions from security staff. You can take your coins in your carry on baggage.

PS: Good Idea! Wear a big hat that says "Coin Dealer Carrying Lots of Cash." I'm sure you'll get lots of help.

Justacommeman

not an issue. MJ

JamesMurray

What if its an international flight ? Can customs put the skids on that?

dbldie55

I carried all of my dealers coins to LA for the Summer ANA. I am not a dealer, and had no problems.

mkman123

I think I read that for international flights there may be some stipulations.

I am just wondering about US flights to Hawaii and if anyone got stopped and harassed for carrying money or coins while going there.

Bochiman

US flights (Hawaii is still US ) shouldn't be any issue other than maybe wanting to ask for a private search/inspection rather than letting everyone in line see what you have with you.
I have taken small amounts (a box or two) of rolls/slabs with no issues.

Internationally, I would strongly recommend you talk to the customs in the country(ies) you plan to travel in/out of.

I have gone to China/South Korea/Taiwan/Japan with a few slabs and no issues, but I haven't tried taking a larger amount. Also, it is "$10,000" cash before you need to worry about value of cash into/out of US (some countries may be slightly different). I usually travel with $300-$1000 internationally so that I can have emergency/quick funds as soon as I hit the airport.

MrEureka

You can carry it all wherever you're going. The only catch is that on international flights, you have to declare large amounts of cash, imported items, and (for dealers) "commercial goods".

RYK

Only if you declare yourself to be a wannabe.

Of course, you can.

WTCG

TSA doesn't know the difference between a coin dealer and someone who isn't one. Anybody can bring coins on to an airplane.

For international flights carrying coins onto airplanes isn't a problem in itself though some countries severely restrict the size of carry-on items. Dealing with customs procedures is a totally different issue.

JamesMurray

<< <i>US flights (Hawaii is still US ) shouldn't be any issue other than maybe wanting to ask for a private search/inspection rather than letting everyone in line see what you have with you.
I have taken small amounts (a box or two) of rolls/slabs with no issues.

Internationally, I would strongly recommend you talk to the customs in the country(ies) you plan to travel in/out of.

I have gone to China/South Korea/Taiwan/Japan with a few slabs and no issues, but I haven't tried taking a larger amount. Also, it is "$10,000" cash before you need to worry about value of cash into/out of US (some countries may be slightly different). I usually travel with $300-$1000 internationally so that I can have emergency/quick funds as soon as I hit the airport. >>



I wondered how it might be viewed if i took a few filled danscos back to the UK , and a smallish bag of bullion.Total value wouldnt be 10k but probably not an awful longs way off it.I think you are right , id be best to ask prior.

mkman123

thanks for the response. I was unsure on domestic flights if I had to report valuables that I was carrying.

sinin1

the last time I flew, I had about 10 slabs and 2 rolls of IKES in a carry-on


and was guessing they would search - but didn't

blu62vette

Doesnt matter and they dont know who is dealer or not.

ProofArtworkonCircs

Seems though I read years ago that a coin dealer entering Canada had to pay sales tax (which can be around 15%) on his inventory and collect a refund on the way out.

ricko

I have taken flights with gold, silver and other coins in slabs and rolls. Never an issue. Came out of England with nice silver coins... no problem. Left Portugal with considerable coinage in my carryon.. no problem. Cheers, RickO

ldhair

Security at many airports may ask to take a quick look at any large amounts of metal.
It takes a few seconds and they are happy.

I do think there is a law about large amounts of cash on aircraft even going from state to state but don't know how it reads.

derryb

Isn't there a new limit on the amount of pennys and nickels that can be taken out of the country?

MrEureka

...they dont know who is dealer or not.

Unless the customs agent asks you what you do for a living and you tell them the truth.

lkenefic

<< <i>What if its an international flight ? Can customs put the skids on that? >>



Good question. One has to declare "currency" taken into and out of a country. Would you simply declare a $1 value for an 1804 Dollar, or is it an antiquity... which is also declared...

JamesMurray

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<< <i>What if its an international flight ? Can customs put the skids on that? >>



Good question. One has to declare "currency" taken into and out of a country. Would you simply declare a $1 value for an 1804 Dollar, or is it an antiquity... which is also declared... >>



Not to mention Gold and Silver bullion , ive no idea where they stand on that.I dont want to wait til im standing at customs to find out.

RickMilauskas

"...and no hiding original bank wrapped rolls, either!"

Roger...you crack me up!!!

lkenefic

To which countries are you travelling? Some are probably much better than others... especially leaving.

L

Ciccio

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<< <i>What if its an international flight ? Can customs put the skids on that? >>



Good question. One has to declare "currency" taken into and out of a country. Would you simply declare a $1 value for an 1804 Dollar, or is it an antiquity... which is also declared... >>



Not to mention Gold and Silver bullion , ive no idea where they stand on that.I dont want to wait til im standing at customs to find out. >>



For what I understood you just need to declare whatever is over $10K.

Check this out. CBP

droopyd

I've taken coin albums on planes and have was never been asked to pull them out for examination or even asked what they were.

JamesMurray

<< <i>To which countries are you travelling? Some are probably much better than others... especially leaving.

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Ive no immmediate plans to travel , ( I love my Uncle Sam ) , eventually though at some point it will be US to UK , i heard phillie customs are tough and i also heard i wouldnt see customs until my final destination which would be UK.

pennyannie

I do not know why i have to tell a bunch of want a bees that i have 10k or more in my pocket. Years ago that was some cash, now it is a long week end in Vegas. Next thing you know you will have to carry your tax returns around with you so a 10 dollar and hour security officer can decide if you came across the cash honestly.

johnny9434

I dont see why you wouldnt be able to do that.

JamesMurray

<< <i>I dont see why you wouldnt be able to do that. >>



Id rather carry it than ship for obvious reasons , ill collect with confidence and try to keep things down to half a dozen danscos and a small bag of collectable bullion issues.
If i have to pay duty or import tax or whatever , that might hurt.If its a personal collection though it should be ok ? I only worry about customs taking exception to gold bullion and pre 1933 gold coins mostly.

Walmann

TSA has trouble determining males versus females, hence the full body scanners coming to a terminal near you.

However, lack of mustard stains or donut sugar on your clothes may be deemed clues as to your profession.

Dennis88

As someone who flies Europe<>US a few times a year, I can honestly say that customs are the least of your problems. Custom officials, upon arriving overseas, will be bothered more with electronics, clothes and imitations thereof. Rare coins usually do not attract their attention.

As for the limitation, the official custom decleration form says you have to declare all amounts above $10,000 in cash, or the equivalent thereof. This is the case in virtually every country. Declaring it won't get you into trouble, not declaring it definitely will, if they search your bags.

Dennis

karpman9

Although the following personal experience has nothing to do with cash/coin carrying regulations at airports I wanted to the share.

A few years ago while visiting my inlaws in NYC, a friend of mine who owed me some money paid me with a 100 oz J & M silver bar (silver was $11.20 per oz).

When we went through security at JFK, I put the bar in a seperate tote at x-ray to make evdident I wasn't trying to hide it (for whatever the reason) and the TSA still pulled me aside. TSA brought over a supervisor who told me I wasn't allowed to bring the silver bar on the plane. She kept saying over and over again that it could be used as a weapon.

I pointed out that my laptop (much larger and heavier back then) could also be used in a similar fashion but she maiintained that the bar was not eligible for carry-on as it could be used as a weapon. She actually wanted me to go back to the luggage counter and check in the 100 oz silver bar in what I intended to use as my carry-on bag. After a bit of tactful negotiation, I at least got het to allow me to check it in at the gate. I was escorted with a full security detail (three big guys) through JFK to my gate, and after receiving multiple assurances that it wouldn't go through to baggage claim in Phoenix, i exchanged it for a claim check. When we landed I did retrive it at the gate. All was well.

Although I'm definetly in favor of thorough security measures (including Israeli-style screening methods) at our airports, I thought this incident was a bit over the top.

droopyd

<< <i>Although I'm definetly in favor of thorough security measures (including Israeli-style screening methods) at our airports, I thought this incident was a bit over the top. >>



I dunno, I think asking people right out if they're carrying bombs is pretty over the top, too (as happened to me at Ben Gurion airport).