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Running up the score .. your thoughts

Bradshaw and Jimmie Johnson had different opinions during the postgame show about whether it was ok the way Minn seemed to run up the score at the end of the game. Bradshaw said if that was him he would not have thrown that TD at the end with very little time left and the game obviously in hand while Jimmie said don't worry about what the other team does just worry about your own team .

Im not just talking about this game in general, just wondering what your feelings are about teams that pile on at the end of games
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good Football teams play the game as best as they can from the first play of the game to the last.

    "Hey I cant help it if you got a bad football Team"


    When Prossesional athletes "Lay Down" they deserve to get pummeled, alot can happen in games so you do what you can when you can and the rest will take care if itself.
  • Always liked Keith Brooking until the finish of todays game. I am sorry we scored Keith lol...
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Brooking running over the sideline and screaming at the Vikings like some kind of idiotic madman was far more classless than throwing a short TD pass. What's next, the mercy rule?


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  • I had already turned the game off when it happened but I'm on both sides of the fence. Personally I would tell the team to run the ball but that's just me. One of these days the Vikings could be the recipient.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    Personally, I think if a team wants to compete and play their "A" game until the final gun, that's fine.

    What I can't stand is when a team finally gets to a big national TV stage, and comes up with the worst all-around performance I've seen in professional sports in recent memory.

    what a pathetic display

  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Its all fun and games running up the score until someone cheap shots the QB or breaks a leg for a meaningless score. Its all about minimizing risks. Running the ball and ending the game is much less risky than trying for one more score late in the game that might cause someone to go low for the knees on the QB. Also it carries into the following season where scores are settled.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bradshaw is absolutely right.


  • << <i>Bradshaw is absolutely right. >>



    Yes he is.

    Although i am a cowboy hater, it was a classless call by the vikings coach.
  • The cowboys coul have tried to stop the Vikings if they didnt want them to score, just becuase the Cowboys quit on that game doesnt mean the Vikings did too
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    Make a play, not an excuse.
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  • MrGMrG Posts: 623 ✭✭✭
    I don't get the same talking heads in the UK as you get in the US! I got Jay Schroeder as the color man and two talking heads saying "Blighty, Blighty, Blah, Blah".
    They are really excited about the 49ers and Broncos however......
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  • Pretty funny that this is drawing more fricking attention than the actual game results! We cant run the damn ball well right now, should we have knelled? Unreal !
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  • I find it funny that the Cowboys were trying to score on the prev plays they weren't kneeling down and trying to end the game, right?

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  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    Perhaps the Cowboys shouldn't have talked so much smack before and during the game. I can't believe the preening some of the defensive players were doing after making routine plays while down 17-3 in the second half. If you don't show the other team respect, you certainly aren't going to get it in return.

    I didn't mind the TD at all.....of course being from New England, I kind of have to say that! image
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    This isn't Pop Warner. A professional team should keep scoring until the clock stops.
  • I always heard play hard from whistle to whistle. Players that let their guard down or ease up get hurt. Besides what are you going to call in that situation? Have five guys run three yard routes on the 11? Favre threw it to an open guy that wasn't going to get blasted. He just happened to be in the end zone.
  • Dallas is complaining about a 40 year old QB running up the score on them? How embarrassing. Too bad it didn't happen to the Pats; they actually deserve a drubbing like that.
    Having said that, the Vikes can't complain if Dallas takes some cheap shots at them when they play again next year. Congrats to Favre on a great game. image
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I have no problem with it since its pro ball, but I wouldn't have minded if they just ran out the clock. Its this karma thingy ya know.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭
    Well Brooking needs to stop whining like a child. Okay, it's not exactly the sportsman-like thing to do, but c'mon already. It's for the fans anyways. Completely meaningless TD, so why can't Brooking just act like a man and move on.
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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't remember the Cowboys putting their second string players in at the end of the game. This is pros not High School.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    Go Hard or Go Home...

    Give 100% effort 100% of the time...

    Jimmie is right...


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  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Go Hard or Go Home... >>



    Isn't this the same mentality that people just had watching the Colts rest players the last 2 weeks of the regular season. The reason not to run the score isn't about playing hard, its about not exposing your players to unnecessary risks. Getting hurt making a play, like diving for the TD or scrambling in the pocket would have killed them in the next game.

    You also run the risk of the opposing team taking cheap shots at your stars. In that situation you run the ball out, the Cowboys just ran it 3 straight times to end the game they wanted out.

    Childress even said he ran the score up due to all the talk about the Cowboys during the week. Pros tend to take that badly and react in a manner which sometimes ends up hurting people.
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  • << <i>I don't remember the Cowboys putting their second string players in at the end of the game. This is pros not High School. >>



    Right. Its not high school. Thats why you kick a field goal on 4th and 3. Not run up the score. You're not going to get much respect in the nfl by making classless calls.


  • << <i>Childress even said he ran the score up due to all the talk about the Cowboys during the week. Pros tend to take that badly and react in a manner which sometimes ends up hurting people. >>



    Wow I didn't hear that. What a good example.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Interesting article says it all .... Vikings-Cowboys: Minnesota "Not Guilty" of Running Up the Score on Grown Men

    I would love to get the thoughts of a guy like Dick Butkus?

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  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    I am sure the Vikings would have taken a knee if the Cowboys had done the same. Dallas was still trying to score, so why is it wrong for Minnesota to do the same? The Vikings won't have that same problem next week :-)
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  • I know one thing.....it ticks you off alot more when it's your team it happens to.

    Like alot of guys have mentioned here, in the pros you have to deal with it. Shut up and go home
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    I guess this the "new" NFL...

    We gotta be all "touchy feely" and worry about the feelings of the "other" team...

    If they were good enough...they would have done their talking on the field while the game was being played...

    not after the fact or in between plays...





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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Up over 30, 4th and 3, easily within field goal range, and with 2 (?) minutes to go.. While the native Houstonian in me LOVED it, personally, I would have kicked a FG.

    However, you can't fault any professional for playing all 60 minutes, though karma can really be a beeyatch.

    Just sayin...
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  • kingnascarkingnascar Posts: 636 ✭✭✭
    Play hard and never quit. If everyone did this, the world would be a better place.
    Personally, I never quit and I play hard to the bitter end in everything I do. If I were on any pro team, I would score as much as possible no matter what the scoreboard says.

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  • Coach Favre should not have done that.
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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭
    Pat Williams had some pretty funny comments that were right on.

    The Cowboys weren't crying when the Vikes went for the TD on the previous fourth down and failed. Going for the easy field goal would have been racking up the score, not risking it on a TD pass. I guess the next time a team is blowing out the Cowboys, they should treat them like a bunch of sissies rather than like professional football players...
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    If you're playing the Pats I think you're duty-bound as a member of the 'other 31' NFL coaching fraternity to try to score. A fake FG in that spot would be completely acceptable, followed up by an onside kick.

    Against any other team it's a judgment call. I wouldn't do it, for reasons that Jason already brought up, but to each his own.
  • there is no such thing as "running up the score"

    because that presumes, a team, can score literally at will

    which is clearly not the case

    if the concept of running up the score existed [in the nfl], there would be more Georgia Tech 222 - Cumberland 0 football games
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty funny that this is drawing more fricking attention than the actual game results! We cant run the damn ball well right now, should we have knelled? Unreal ! >>



    Either put Chester Taylor in and hand it to him 4 straight times over left guard, or kneel the ball, yes.
    Up 24 with 2 minutes left, running play action and throwing 20 yards to the end zone? If I were a Vikings fan, I'd be PO'd at Childress for even having Favre or Peterson in at that point.
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  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Play hard and never quit. If everyone did this, the world would be a better place.
    Personally, I never quit and I play hard to the bitter end in everything I do. If I were on any pro team, I would score as much as possible no matter what the scoreboard says.

    Logan
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    Well, you'd be hated and NOT respected by your peers, if that were your attitude.

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  • kingnascarkingnascar Posts: 636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Play hard and never quit. If everyone did this, the world would be a better place.
    Personally, I never quit and I play hard to the bitter end in everything I do. If I were on any pro team, I would score as much as possible no matter what the scoreboard says.

    Logan
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    Well, you'd be hated and NOT respected by your peers, if that were your attitude.

    John >>



    At least I would earn my trophy instead getting one for just participating. I would rather win and be hated than deemed a loser. What is it they say about nice guys?

    Logan
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Play hard and never quit. If everyone did this, the world would be a better place.
    Personally, I never quit and I play hard to the bitter end in everything I do. If I were on any pro team, I would score as much as possible no matter what the scoreboard says.

    Logan
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    Well, you'd be hated and NOT respected by your peers, if that were your attitude.

    John >>



    At least I would earn my trophy instead getting one for just participating. I would rather win and be hated than deemed a loser. What is it they say about nice guys?

    Logan >>




    Of course you want to win... but at this point the victory is an ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE, that is when you show class and sit on the ball. It's not 'quitting', it's knowing when the game is in hand and showing class, and intelligence (what if Peterson or Favre gets dinged up on that last drive??) and calling the dogs off. Whats the point in another touchdown? The Vikes are already advancing, that was clear. Be smart, sit on the rock, dont get anyone hurt, and show class.

    In my opinion.

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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    Of course you want to win... but at this point the victory is an ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE, that is when you show class and sit on the ball. It's not 'quitting', it's knowing when the game is in hand and showing class, and intelligence (what if Peterson or Favre gets dinged up on that last drive??) and calling the dogs off. Whats the point in another touchdown? The Vikes are already advancing, that was clear. Be smart, sit on the rock, dont get anyone hurt, and show class.

    In my opinion.

    John >>



    That's my take on it. Aside from the whole issue of showing class, for which the ship has long since sailed on Mr Favre, it's about protecting your players.

    What if Brooking had cheap-shotted Favre instead of simply yelling at the bench? Why take the risk just so Brett can have that 4th TD pass? Does he really need one more record that badly for his ravenous ego??
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  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭
    <<<If you're playing the Pats I think you're duty-bound as a member of the 'other 31' NFL coaching fraternity to try to score. A fake FG in that spot would be completely acceptable, followed up by an onside kick. >>>

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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i> What's next, the mercy rule? >>



    Only for the Jets this weekend...

    sorry, couldn't resist a witless comment...





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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What if Brooking had cheap-shotted Favre instead of simply yelling at the bench? >>



    Impossible. It's hard to hit someone when you're looking through your purse for a tampon
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