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12-31-10 Predictions on Plat, Gold, Silver, & Dow (Final Update)

renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
Pontifications, extrapolations and long-windedness are welcomed.

P - $1,725
G - $1,550
S - $24
Dow 9,300

R95

Since we won't remember a year from now what today's numbers are:
P - $1,467.00
G - $1,096.50
S - $16.85
Dow 10,428.05

palladium-$406.00
S&P500-1,115.10

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    It seems most folks are divided over whether

    2010 will see deflation or inflation. I see a year

    of hard times as well as a fairly tight range for

    PMs. If there is no war in Iran during 2010, I would

    expect PMs to explode in 2011 as inflation begines

    its savage rise to the sky.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    for 2010 Year End:

    Gold = $1,337.73

    Silver = $21.91

    Platinum = $1,833.75

    Palladium = $479.08

    Dow Jones = 11,053.73

    Ok, what do I win?image
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  • Here's my toss (thanks, jmski, for the fomat):

    Gold = $1,800-ish

    Silver = $34.00-ish

    Platinum = $2800-ish

    Palladium = $600-ish

    Dow Jones = 14,000-ish

    Interest rate: 4%
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's my toss (thanks, jmski, for the fomat):

    Gold = $1,800-ish

    Silver = $34.00-ish

    Platinum = $2800-ish

    Palladium = $600-ish

    Dow Jones = 14,000-ish

    Interest rate: 4% >>




    Four percent? Is that fed funds or 30 year?
  • Platinum = $1976.76

    Gold = $1623.23

    Silver = 31.18

    Dow Jones = 14,457.39

    Palladium = $814.70


  • << <i>

    << <i>Here's my toss (thanks, jmski, for the fomat):

    Gold = $1,800-ish

    Silver = $34.00-ish

    Platinum = $2800-ish

    Palladium = $600-ish

    Dow Jones = 14,000-ish

    Interest rate: 4% >>




    Four percent? Is that fed funds or 30 year? >>



    The fed rate...I'd guess that would make prime about 8%? Can't remember how much higher prime is to the FED rate...
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    I have absolutely no idea where prices will be in a year, but I think it all depends on the actions of the Cabal and how long they're able to keep down the prices of these metals. I think it would be much easier to predict further out, say 5-10 years because I do believe the Cabal will lose their iron grip on the metal markets by that time and prices will be substantially higher.

    Pt - $2000
    Au - $1700
    Ag - $45
    Pd - $850
    Dow - 8000

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  • My guesses for 12/31/2010:

    Plat = $1,813

    Gold = $1,287

    Silver = $23

    Dow = 11,100 (if the same components are still there from 12/31/2009). 13,100 with a little switcharooski!
  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Gold = $1,031

    Silver = $14.97

    Platinum = $1,782

    Palladium = $473

    Dow Jones = 11,343

    Interest rate: 1.5%
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭
    Gold 1275
    Silver 18
    DJ 12000
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gold--1025
    silver--15.50
    copper--2.75
    dow--11,300

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Gold - $1,275oz

    Silver- $21oz

    Dow- 9000

    Platinum -$1,700
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  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    Au - 1650

    Pt - 2100

    Pd - 650

    Ag - 26

    DOW - 9800

    Rates - Unchanged. Rates are going nowhere. The USD will be sacrificed instead, as seen by the prices above.

  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    Very hard to make predictions. I see two possible scenarios. # 1 is that PM prices slightly fall across the board over the course of the year due to an improved economy. But the # 2 scenario, which seems more likely to me, is that PMs spike at some point due to an event like increased inflation, run on the dollar, etc.

    In the event of # 2, I predict:

    $1700 gold
    $30 silver
    $2000 platinum
    $500 palladium
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll try
    Gold $1455
    Silver $21
    Platinum $1890
    and Dow 13750

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  • ZubieZubie Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭✭
    Oh my head hurts and my liver hates me...

    I'll go with:

    $1685 gold
    $24 silver
    $1958 platinum
    $621 palladium
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  • I've been so far off on my predictions that I won't make one for this year, I will say that longer term say in 3-5 years Gold will exceed $2,000 possibly $3,000 an oz.
    Silver will exceed $100 an oz. possibly getting to $150 an oz.
    Paltinum will exceed $3,000 an oz. possiblt reaching $5,000 an oz.
    Palladium will have the widest range due to possible future applications ranging from $1,200 an oz. all the way to over $10,000 an oz
    The Dow will keep rising as long as the fed and central banks keep floating this boat but at some point I can see a huge selloff then after a bottoming out process the Dow will march ahead to new all time highs and reach levels that might astound some people.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Come on, Norseman - it's a guess, go ahead and take the plunge! And where's MoneyLA here? I didn't make a prediction in last year's thread until July - it would've been more interesting if I had made my guess in Jan.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • + - 5% of 12/31/09 close.
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  • 1/1/2011

    Gold $1025
    Silver $15


    Platinum $1575
    Palladium $475

    S&P 1k
    dow 9k

    Oil $65

    Real Estate prices still falling
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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gold - 1060 Stuck in trading range most of '10, fails to break out
    Silver 19.20
    Dow 12050
    Plat 1400
  • P- 1597.48
    G- 1226.52
    S- 19.46
    Dow- 9455
    A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Come on, Norseman - it's a guess, go ahead and take the plunge! And where's MoneyLA here? I didn't make a prediction in last year's thread until July - it would've been more interesting if I had made my guess in Jan. >>



    Comrade, your mid-year prediction was pretty good. I'd like to be that close 6 mo. out.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Au - 1650

    Pt - 2100

    Pd - 650

    Ag - 26

    DOW - 9800

    Rates - Unchanged. Rates are going nowhere. The USD will be sacrificed instead, as seen by the prices above. >>



    7/8, seems we are thinking somewhat the same. My 9,000-ish Dow comes after the index reaching a 2-year high and then begins its slide back below 10,000. The metals gain will mostly be in the 4th quarter. The Stimulus will have run its course. The House and Senate reverse the decision of 2008, but to no avail...the damage has already been done.
  • Gold $1100
    Silver $15.35
    Dow 10,050

    Predictions are entertaining, but money management and risk management tend to be where the bulk of the money is made in trading.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gold $1075
    Silver $15
    DOW 10,000
    UDX .79
    Fed Funds rate .5

    In otherwords----boring

    I think a run on the dollar (.72 UDX) starts in late 2010 or in 2011 and pm prices raise in conjunction. MJ
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gold- 1100
    Silv - 17.25
    Plat - 1700

    Dow - 11k
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    12/31/2010

    Pt: $2,000
    Au: $1,500
    Ag: $19
    DOW: 10K
    trozau (troy ounce gold)
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    Gold- 1132
    Plat- 1620
    Silver- 18.73
    Dow- 11,525
    NSDQ- 2,436

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  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭
    $1550 gold
    $26 silver
    $1650 Plat
    9000 dow
    bond market takes a dump.
    PEACE! This is the first day of the rest of your life.

    Fred, Las Vegas, NV
  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭
    Beside, I need the price of gold to stay low so I can buy the last first spouse liberty coming out in the fall! image
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think gold will exceed this level during the year so in essence I'm factoring in a decent sized pullback by Dec 31, 2010. Calling the Dow is much harder imo but I'm basing it on the current trend in the Dow/gold ratio which could be headed towards the 3-6 range sometime this year with a rebound in the 2nd half. If gold ends even higher it will allow the Dow/gold ratio to be higher. Sinclair has predicted $1650 gold by 1/14/11. If that comes I think it will be in 2010. Market cyclist Clif Droke already likes the Dow for 2010 based on QE. It's usually a bad idea to go against him. He had predicted 2009 to be bullish for stocks right up until the end of the year.

    Gold $1425
    Silver $32 (GSR approx 45)
    Plat $1900
    Pall $575
    Dow 8500

    Historical Dow to Gold ratio

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well fellow pm gurusimage it seems that gold and silver are a strong buy by our predictions.

    The concensus lows are only 10% on the downside with a consensus 25-30% on the upside.

    A decent 2.5-1 risk reward. Question, are you buying?

    MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Yes, I'm a strong buyer of silver at these prices and will be till at least $50/oz. I might pick up more palladium as well. I have no platinum exposure and don't feel it's necessary, and haven't added to my gold holdings since about $900/oz and probably won't, deferring instead to silver.

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    .....GOD
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  • Gold = $699

    Silver = $14.59

    Platinum = $1452

    Palladium = $115

    Dow Jones = $8452

    Interest Rate 7.75%

    Just a WAG from me, I think this year is going to be interesting in many ways. I would not be surprised by a successful terror attack. I would not be surprised by the Fed Mopping up as much money as they can from the system to combat inflation starting pretty quickly this year. I will not be surprised at a route in November 2010. I would not be surprised if a lot of the "green shoots" turn brown and die.

    I would also not be surprised if everything I wrote above proves to be wrong.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well fellow pm gurusimage it seems that gold and silver are a strong buy by our predictions.

    The concensus lows are only 10% on the downside with a consensus 25-30% on the upside.

    A decent 2.5-1 risk reward. Question, are you buying?

    MJ >>



    Yup, I may be too optimistic in my call.image But will give it the benefit of the doubt considering most all involved in the predictions have a vested interest and probably do not represent the general public.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    12-31-10 PREDICTION.....

    Gold $1425.00

    Silver $23.10

    Platinum $2224.00

    Palladium $582.00

    Dow 12,900
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • CrimsonTiderCrimsonTider Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭
    I know of nothing in metals, however my market acumen is fairly keen. I believe that we are on tract for a double dip recession. I predict the dow to be.........


    .......



    ......



    Keep waiting.......


    .........


    7324! It will be a wonderful time to buy for those with cajones.

    With that tid bit of knowledge, I will see my way back to baseball card forum and canoodle by banter with those AV high school club members.
    collecting Dale Murphy and OPC
  • TomohawkTomohawk Posts: 667 ✭✭
    Justacommeman,

    Yep, I'm a buying silver...in fact, bought my first 90% silver and traded for my first 10 oz'ers this year (and I JUST completed buying my first Morgan Dollars!). I hope to have 1,000+ oz's or equivalents within 2 years, but it may be too late. If I'm fortunate enough to get any bonuses, at least half will go to silver purchases.

    Gold for me is too lofty (which obviously means plat is even further out), but I do follow it's path closely...and I have to admit: I feel quite empowered lately.
    ASE Addict...but oh so poor!
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A mighty fine day for the bullish crowd, both plat and gold up 20 bucks!
  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭
    Wow, I'm surprised so many of you feel silver will be around the $15 level image
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<..and I have to admit: I feel quite empowered lately. >>

    Good for you Tomohawk! I felt exactly the same way after I bought my first silver and gold. I also slept great that night............All the best and keep stacking. It adds up : )

    MJ
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First quarter update:

    P - $1,643 +176/12%
    G - $1,113 +17/1.5%
    S - $17.48 +.63/3.7%
    Dow 10,857 +429/4.1%

    Palladium-$478 +70/17.7%
    S&P500 1,169 +54/4.8%

    Platinum and Palladium are this quarters' winners.

    R95


  • << <i>First quarter update:

    P - $1,643 +176/12%
    G - $1,113 +17/1.5%
    S - $17.48 +.63/3.7%
    Dow 10,857 +429/4.1%

    Palladium-$478 +70/17.7%
    S&P500 1,169 +54/4.8%

    Platinum and Palladium are this quarters' winners.

    R95 >>



    My 2 biggest holdings!


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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And "holding up the rear" Gold & Silver ...
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • KUCHKUCH Posts: 1,186


    << <i>And "holding up the rear" Gold & Silver ... >>



    Could it be market manipulation?
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rats! My guesses were too low for the year, methinks.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    P-1523
    G-1217
    S-18.23
    Dow-10,303
    S&P500-1079
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>P-1523
    G-1217
    S-18.23
    Dow-10,303
    S&P500-1079 >>



    Well, you give us the 1st quarter stats...where are the 2d quarter stats ending 7/31?
    You left out Palladium ... 476.00
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>P-1523
    G-1217
    S-18.23
    Dow-10,303
    S&P500-1079 >>



    Well, you give us the 1st quarter stats...where are the 2d quarter stats ending 7/31?
    You left out Palladium ... 476.00 >>



    My "bad" OPA. I forgot I still had this thread out there....

    Pal-476

    Next quarter ends Sep 30.
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