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As I see it ...

In response to some PM's [No pun intended] from another thread.


I have been involved with PM's for a bit longer than I would like to admit to.

My perspective today.... [ NOT including exact price/time predictions.]

GOLD:
Historicaly, gold has had the greatest demand. IT IS MONEY ... ANYWHERE.
Because it has always had the greatest demand, it has had the smallest Buy/Sell spread.
The future --- Gold will continue to have the highest demand of the 4 PM's I will go over...
and so will have the smallest spread going forward. Gold will continue to go up in U.S. dollar terms.
The government not of the people or for the people has set this in stone.
Fractional gold will become the coin/bar of choice. Most folks do not have $1000+
to spend at any 1 time....but a few 100 dollars is more the norm.

SILVER:
Historicaly, silver has had the 2nd greatest demand. The Buy/Sell spread is wider due to its
value and weight. It takes "X" as much effert to mint $1000 in silver as $1000 in gold.
At todays price +/- $10,000 in gold weighs less than 1 pound. $10,000 in silver weighs 39 pounds.
Just in shipping & minting costs, you can see why silver, from the supplier, has to cost more.
The future --- I think that silver is going to out perform gold, percentage wise, for 2 reasons.
1] The new uses for silver are going to USE so much metal that demand is going to be incredable.
2] As the price of gold goes ever higher, silver by default becomes the affordable choice. I see it
happening already. How many dollars do you normally take to the show/B&M? 1 oz. worth of gold
or 10 or 20 oz's of silver?!

PLATINUM:
Historicaly, platinum is known to the PM/Numismatic community but is only a word for some exotic
metal to most folks. Even with its high value, due to a real lack of investor demand, coins & bars
have only been produced in very small numbers. The Buy/Sell spread has been so wide due to
limited production/avaliability when you are buying and the lack of demand when selling.
The future --- I see Platinum as a metal of the future. Uses for it are EXPANDING much faster than
all of the working mines/reserves can supply. The Russians DID HAVE large stocks of Platinum in
the past. Those stocks are now gone. I know of no central banks holding any real quantity of Pt.
I think it is well worth the premium to put away a bit of Pt.

PALLADIUM:
Historicaly, who cared?
Then came the caticalitic converter. A mass produced item that uses Platinum or Palladium.
But wait, now we NEED flat screen monitors and TVs. Now demand is using up the supply.
The future --- Now we get to the real wild card.
Fuell Cells... IF these becomes wide spread .... Palladium has properties that Pt. does not ... and the price of Pd will sail past gold or Pt.
Cold Fusion ... IF cold fusion becomes a reality ... Pd. will sail past Rhodium.
Again, a metal of the future. But when? I do not know. I just know that I am a buyer when the ever I get the chance.

OK..... I will give up the soap box to the rest of the forum .... as I am tired now.


Keep on Stacking!!
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Comments

  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭
    As I posted in the other thread, thanks for posting all that. Having never bought any precious metals, I found it very informative and great to read as well!!

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Palladium has properties that Pt. does not

    I didn't realize that. What properties? I thought that platinum was simply a tougher metal with some other advantages in terms of physical properties. What are palladium's advantages, if you don't mind sharing?
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  • Great Post! Thanks for your insight.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    PT and PD need to be more in the spotlight because your Joe Schmoe does not even know what PD and PT are. When it gets to that point, then it will increase in value.

    You say silver or gold and they know what that is.

    Say PD or PT and they are like, what is that? radioactive material or some new band?

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last time I did some research on the uses of silver I was surprised to see how many similarities that gold-silver-plat-palladium had in common. In many ways they are closely interchangeable with gold being probably more corrosion resistant and more conductive/malleable. The toughest thing with plat-pall is that they are in extremely short supply compared to the other two.

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  • ------- Palladium has properties that Pt. does not. --------


    While both metals are very similar.......

    Platinum is almost 2x heavier than Palladium.

    Palladium is actually harder than Platinum....resisting wear & scratching better.

    BUT THE REAL KEY IS .....

    Only Palladium can be used for Hydrogenization .... This is what makes a Fuel Cell work.

    Hydrogen atoms flow THRU Palladium while other atoms do not. This sets up an electric current.

    Palladium sponge can hold 900 x its own volume in Hydrogen.... giving it up when heated.

    I do not quite understand its properties as far as Cold Fusion ....

    but understand Pd is also the only metal that "works". I suspect that it

    has something to do with Pd's Hydrogen properties and Deuterium.

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  • ZubieZubie Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭✭
    Don't know much about Palladium. What is the better way to hoard...Palladium Maple Leafs or 1/10oz bars?
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    If you find 1/10 oz , or any name brand fractional size Pd, PLEASE let my know.

    For now, I would stick with 1oz. Suisse Credit bars over Maples.... Lower premium.
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    Silver : Less exists than Gold - much more lost to unrecoverable applications - Expanding industrial usage (ex: flat screens tv's)

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  • << <i>------- Palladium has properties that Pt. does not. --------


    While both metals are very similar.......

    Platinum is almost 2x heavier than Palladium.

    Palladium is actually harder than Platinum....resisting wear & scratching better.

    BUT THE REAL KEY IS .....

    Only Palladium can be used for Hydrogenization .... This is what makes a Fuel Cell work.

    Hydrogen atoms flow THRU Palladium while other atoms do not. This sets up an electric current.

    Palladium sponge can hold 900 x its own volume in Hydrogen.... giving it up when heated.

    I do not quite understand its properties as far as Cold Fusion ....

    but understand Pd is also the only metal that "works". I suspect that it

    has something to do with Pd's Hydrogen properties and Deuterium. >>



    he hit the nail on the head, Palladium has the ability to absorb huge amounts of hydrogen making it the metal of choice for fuel cell technology this will be huge in the future. I also see huge demand for automobile catalysts especially in China and India to control smog cheaply vs. the high cost of Platinum.
    The cold fusion technology if ever proven and mass produced will make Palladium far and away the most expensive PM, like he said it will sail past Rhodium's all time high which most of us were astounded by.

    Maybe this is why Russia is holding on to the last of it's Palladium stockpile as it sees all the future possibilities.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had no idea, that Palladium has so much potential, when I loaded up & purchased about 60 oz .. price range $200 - $245 per oz earlier this year and late last year. For once, my gut feeling was right on the $$$. ( All PAMP or Credit Suisse Bars)
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