1959-P Franklin PCGS Black Beauty

PawPaul

..........I ripped this on off Teletrade last night , I had a max. bid on it at $170 - it sold for 55 dollars

surely there are others that know how scarce the '59-P is with neat toning ?

and yes, there no doubt will be the popcorn crowd in the wings that say they don't like the "look" or it's unattractive tone and they wouldn't give a plug nickel

for it .............

but I will let you in on a little secret : it's rare as hell with this kind of real toning and it's a real treasure that apparently got handed

to me on a silver platter

JupitarCoins

I really like the toning on it.
Btw what did it grade?

Bochiman

Now see, this is good that you like it, but, there are some (like me) that legitimately do NOT like the coin....rare with that look or not.
I saw it on TT and did NOT have any bid in.

It wouldn't fit our collection of frankies, it isn't one I liked the look of, and I am more about collecting what I like than of getting a "tone-rarity" type of coin.

That said, I honestly am not knocking you for getting it and at a price you like. I also don't think you should knock those that don't like the look, even for the price you paid, but, that's just me.

SanctionII

Under good lighting it would not surprise me to see booming luster on this coin. I like it and you are correct about how rare 1959 MS Franklins are with toning.

I have a very dark 1956 franklin from a Mint Set. Under good lighting there is booming luster and rainbow colors. Groovy man

PawPaul

<< <i>Now see, this is good that you like it, but, there are some (like me) that legitimately do NOT like the coin....rare with that look or not.
I saw it on TT and did NOT have any bid in.

It wouldn't fit our collection of frankies, it isn't one I liked the look of, and I am more about collecting what I like than of getting a "tone-rarity" type of coin.

That said, I honestly am not knocking you for getting it and at a price you like. I also don't think you should knock those that don't like the look, even for the price you paid, but, that's just me. >>



Bochi - you are right , and in my zeal to say " look what I got that you fellers didn't" I apologise for stepping on toe's

Beauty is in the eye's of the beholder............that said though , I'm banking this has striking luster and a plethera of firery colors atop surfaces that

meet the criteria of todays harsh PCGS graders .

......good thing you didn't like it or I would have been bidding a might higher

PawPaul

<< <i>I really like the toning on it.
Btw what did it grade? >>



MS65

kryptonitecomics

I don't think the coin looks bad and agree with your assessment of the type of toning usually found on the date....with that said I would be suprised if the coin wasn't a bit more colorful in hand....I think you did well for the price

ChangeInHistory

I like it. I'm putting together an MS toned set of Rooseys and I can relate to finding a date that does not tone well. Congrats!

SkyMan

From the images, not my cup of tea visually, but that's what makes collecting fun... different strokes for different folks. More importantly, for $55 you certainly did well... especially to get a '59 with color. It looks like it should have some nice patches of color, and given the date there should certainly be some nice luster to go with it. Congratulations!!!

Bochiman

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<< <i>Now see, this is good that you like it, but, there are some (like me) that legitimately do NOT like the coin....rare with that look or not.
I saw it on TT and did NOT have any bid in.

It wouldn't fit our collection of frankies, it isn't one I liked the look of, and I am more about collecting what I like than of getting a "tone-rarity" type of coin.

That said, I honestly am not knocking you for getting it and at a price you like. I also don't think you should knock those that don't like the look, even for the price you paid, but, that's just me. >>



Bochi - you are right , and in my zeal to say " look what I got that you fellers didn't" I apologise for stepping on toe's

Beauty is in the eye's of the beholder............that said though , I'm banking this has striking luster and a plethera of firery colors atop surfaces that

meet the criteria of todays harsh PCGS graders .

......good thing you didn't like it or I would have been bidding a might higher >>




If I had liked it, and if it were a "D", then yes, you would have had to bid a bit higher

PawPaul

<< <i>From the images, not my cup of tea visually, but that's what makes collecting fun... different strokes for different folks. More importantly, for $55 you certainly did well... especially to get a '59 with color. It looks like it should have some nice patches of color, and given the date there should certainly be some nice luster to go with it. Congratulations!!! >>



..........say .......... you got a 48-D ............ummm .........not my cup of tea ...........but uhmmmm ....I could take it off your hands

bushmaster8

Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that.

PawPaul

if it were a "D"


...........in many , many years of searching - I never found a "D" that suited me ,

closest thing I got is the "Woodbury" pedigreed coin from Foodude' collection ,

and it's not natural tone ; it's from a large hoard (100's of them) of A.T Franklins that rummer sez were baked on racks in an oven some 20 years ago .

Steve Leber went thru the whole lot of them , bought and submitted several dozen . A good portion of them are in PCGS and NGC holders to this day .

Almost all have subdued luster under yellow/orangish/greenish tone.

1959-D has got to be the real stopper of the series in Rainbow tone

That PCGS MS66 FBL piece " sourdough" has in his Registry set is the most mind blowing 59-D there could possibly be .........

I wouldn't have any problem scraping up 5 grand to own that monster

PawPaul

<< <i>Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that. >>



...........you got to get up mighty early to pull the rug from under me these days Bush -

you cherrypicked my stuff so many times I could retire on all the money you made off of me

PawPaul

looks to be a DDR ,

i don't get into those newfangled overdate double die bucktooth whatchmajiggies with my Franklins .......just give me the

Mint Set Beauty and I'm happy .


You mean the double die reverse type one /type two eagle tail feathers ??

PawPaul

<< <i>I like it. I'm putting together an MS toned set of Rooseys and I can relate to finding a date that does not tone well. Congrats! >>




it took me about 3 or 4 years , but I got the complete set of dimes 1946 -1964 in PCGS 66 ( most super color toned ) EXCEPT for the 50-D , 52-D and

that danged '59-D !

got this PCGS MS66 off T.T last week @ $110

PawPaul

<< <i>Under good lighting it would not surprise me to see booming luster on this coin. I like it and you are correct about how rare 1959 MS Franklins are with toning.

I have a very dark 1956 franklin from a Mint Set. Under good lighting there is booming luster and rainbow colors. Groovy man >>




........good eye (as always ) II ; you win the cigar this post

TwoSides2aCoin

I think you bought at the right time.
What's that saying about a rising tide ?

PawPaul

............. THE FLOOD GATES ARE OPENING !!!! Amen to that !

foodude

Nice work Mr. Paul; nice dime too.

PawPaul

keep after those rainbow 's Foo

LotsoLuck

Thats a awesome Frankie! Thats my eye of the beholder opinion

Baley

nice pickup!

the 59 is a neat coin to collect, here are a few pics from the files...

wondercoin

You bought that neat 50 year old coin for about the same price it cost to park your car for the night at the hotel I recently stayed at (and the room was only $99/night - not a super expensive hotel).



Wondercoin

ProofArtworkonCircs

<<Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that.>>

Doesn't look it to me - looks like the proof artwork one though. I can't really tell beans from Pix though.

Stuart

Definitely NT

astrorat

<< <i>Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that. >>



What? Do you have Superman vision?

Geez...I would have never guessed it was a DDR! I gotta get my eyes checked!

Lane

frnklnlvr

I was the underbidder PawPaul. I really like this coin and I meant to raise my max to $100 but forgot about it. At least I know now that I still wouldn't have won it.



<< <i>Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that. >>



I believe it's a type 2 bush. The toning makes it difficult to tell.

ricko

I am happy for you.. .a coin you really like at a good price. As you may surmise, it is not one I would purchase, but to each his own. Good luck, Cheers, RickO

keets

i tend to like original coins whether they be brilliant or not, but this one is kind of like the child that only a mother could love. too, too bad you couldn't have found it about 10 years ago when the oxidation wasn't so complete.

bushmaster8

<< <i>I was the underbidder PawPaul. I really like this coin and I meant to raise my max to $100 but forgot about it. At least I know now that I still wouldn't have won it.



<< <i>Can't tell for sure from the pix, but looks to be a DDR. Your lucky I didn't see that. >>



I believe it's a type 2 bush. The toning makes it difficult to tell. >>



I think you are correct..Ty2.

barbershopper

I could take a hammer and chisel and make it even more rare in just a few minutes.

JT

PawPaul

<< <i>i tend to like original coins whether they be brilliant or not, but this one is kind of like the child that only a mother could love. too, too bad you couldn't have found it about 10 years ago when the oxidation wasn't so complete. >>




.........you make me laugh a good chuckle Keets

PawPaul

<< <i>nice pickup!

the 59 is a neat coin to collect, here are a few pics from the files...









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I like the one on top !

PawPaul

<< <i>I am happy for you.. .a coin you really like at a good price. As you may surmise, it is not one I would purchase, but to each his own. Good luck, Cheers, RickO >>




It is a joy and a thrill to get something at a fair price for once

bushmaster8

Look again...I think Baley has tricksied you. That is the same coin- two different lighting stylee.

PawPaul

.I think middle and bottom coin maybe the same ; but one on top ? .... no way ??

WoodenJefferson

I once had a 59-P that looked like it was dug out of a campfire, I couldn't unload it fast enough. It was in an ICG slab and you do not have to thank me for putting a Franklin like that back onto the market.

PawPaul

.yes, this one look's nicely toasted

ProofArtworkonCircs

Now, that top picture looks like a DDR to me.

frnklnlvr

I have a similarly toned '55...

PawPaul

I visited your website Frnklnlvr ! very impressive

frnklnlvr

<< <i>I visited your website Frnklnlvr ! very impressive >>



Thanks! It's slowly coming together.

StubbyMcNumbthumbs

Nice original Frankie! I like it!

And, getting it for less than a third of what you were willing to pay is always a big added bonus!

PawPaul

I got it in hand today , and it's just fine

I gotta say that the last 1/2 dozen or so coins I have won @ T.T have been exactly like the images they provided .

originalisbest

Good for you, and to each their own -- but I don't care for the toning at all; negative eye appeal for me.

PawPaul

I can honestly say that after viewing the coin under different light sources -it is actually not as appealing as the pix provided by Teletrade !

It is pleasent to the eye and not as dark as their pix , but any color on the coin was well captured by their pix . The majority of the time , on coins I win -

the coins "pop" more in hand then in their pix ........

highbidder1970

What an ugly piece of low end garbage.

PawPaul

well it's not ugly ..........but it's a prime example of me shooting off my mouth about it b4 I even got it ,

doing so having only seen the pictures ..........

I will agree with those that did not think it was desirable and will chalk up another lesson learned

frnklnlvr

Is it accurately graded? High end? Low end?

BaseballAbs

<< <i>I have a similarly toned '55...

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Wow! What would cause that type of toning? I have never seen anything like it. Cool coin!