Lincoln Cents - 1955 DDO vs. 1909-S VDB
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If you were going to buy one or the other, which would you rather have?
Why?
I'm looking for answers in terms of the significance of the coin and your reasons for wanting to include the coin in your collection; not based on which coin is more valuable or expected to be a better investment. Assume same value, nice coin, no problems, etc., etc.
Why?
I'm looking for answers in terms of the significance of the coin and your reasons for wanting to include the coin in your collection; not based on which coin is more valuable or expected to be a better investment. Assume same value, nice coin, no problems, etc., etc.
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The SVDB is just another coin, albeit one of the keys to the series, and the 55DDO is just a visual 'gotcha'!
Regardless of price, I would go for the 55DDO.
stuff. I would only want one in high grade. A near top pop so I could
show it off and make people jealous. You know, like some people
do here with their collections.
But after considering it I would go with the 55 DDO because even
a layman could appreciate the novelty of it. It is easily explained and
more interesting to look at then the first year key date which has
this little VDB that one can barely see.
55 for the win.
WS
<< <i>Well, If your collecting a set of Lincoln's, the 09 is considered a business strike, and the 55 an error. If you want a complete set of business strikes, you need the 09.
WS >>
So is the 09 your final answer?
What if you're not collecting a set of Lincolns and you just want one or the other?
<< <i>Well, If your collecting a set of Lincoln's, the 09 is considered a business strike, and the 55 an error. If you want a complete set of business strikes, you need the 09.
WS >>
... and for that reason I would pick the S-VDB. It is the last Lincoln I need for my Dansco.
Not to change the subject, but for similar reasons I will always have a blank planchet in the 22-plain hole. I like the album, but it is not a requirement for my complete set.
The '55DDO is a classic variety and is high on the coolness scale. The biggest problem I have with these coins is their general appearance. The old hub was pretty worn down by this point and none of the Lincolns from this era have the detail of the earlier years. Also, many of the '55DDOs just lack eye appeal. Many of the near MS pieces are very unattractively toned.
According to the price guide, for much less than the price of a higher grade '55DDO, you could buy a very handsome mint state 1909-SVDB. I would much rather look at an attractively toned, mint state SVDB than a similarly priced '55DDO. The SVDB is a classic early 20th Century "rarity" and shows the classic Lincoln cent as Brenner intended it to be.
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But you didn't answer the question...
WS
THE Key Lincoln.
But, since I purchased the sVDB first, I guess that answered the question in a relative way.
<< <i>I would vie for the 09-s VDB.
THE Key Lincoln.
THE " POPULAR " Lincoln...THE KEY is the 26-S in gem red
I counted 66 09-SVDB's on the floor at my last regional show
The 09-S had 484,000 made.
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<< <i>No brainer for me, the 55DDO since the quantity minted is unknown.
The 09-S had 484,000 made. >>
Not to derail my own thread...but in 1955, then-Chief Coiner Sydney C. Engel estimated that between 20,000 and 24,000 of the 1955 DDOs were struck. I have read that Sol Taylor estimates 20,000 to 40,000 were struck.
Of course, the actual quantity minted is indeed unknown but is almost certainly much less than the 09-S VDB.
<< <i>Both are cool coins to own, but I think the 55DDO offers more 'story' for your money.
The SVDB is just another coin, albeit one of the keys to the series, and the 55DDO is just a visual 'gotcha'!
Regardless of price, I would go for the 55DDO. >>
Foreign collectors would look twice at the 55 DDO and pass on the S-VDB (my assumption).
The 55 DDO is a freakin cool coin no matter how you cut it.
Most people who would pick the S-VDB have one and really want a 55 DDO (again- my assumption).
People who own a high grade example of a 55 DDO are usually
much better looking than people who don't (need I say again -my assumption)
Get the 55 DDO.
1909s vdb -boring
1955 DDO -very cool
1955 for the win!
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<< <i>the sVDB can be beautiful, 55DDO to me is an unattractive coin due to the poor state of the hub - i'm passing on the 55DDO >>
Surely you jest....
The '09-SVDB in that grade was a pretty big purchase for me and the '55 DDO at that level just isnt' going to happen.
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<< <i>I like my copper gem MS65RD+
The '09-SVDB in that grade was a pretty big purchase for me and the '55 DDO at that level just isnt' going to happen. >>
Aww... It's just $40,000.
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<< <i>No brainer for me, the 55DDO since the quantity minted is unknown.
The 09-S had 484,000 made. >>
Not to derail my own thread...but in 1955, then-Chief Coiner Sydney C. Engel estimated that between 20,000 and 24,000 of the 1955 DDOs were struck. I have read that Sol Taylor estimates 20,000 to 40,000 were struck.
Of course, the actual quantity minted is indeed unknown but is almost certainly much less than the 09-S VDB. >>
I'll take an estimated 40,000 over a definite 484,000 enyday.
Besides, the 09-SVDB is just aniother low mintage coin whereas the 55/55 was never meant to be!
The name is LEE!
1909-S is nice but the 55 is cool looking and keeps my attention span going
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<< I like my copper gem MS65RD+
The '09-SVDB in that grade was a pretty big purchase for me and the '55 DDO at that level just isnt' going to happen. >>
<<Aww... It's just $40,000.>>
Try to find a truly nice piece at that price in that grade...
<<the sVDB can be beautiful, 55DDO to me is an unattractive coin due to the poor state of the hub>>
Youre crazy!
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I don't collect lincolns (have some but don't do the whole series).
Wanted some keys....decided on a MS63BN 55/55 that looked nice (had a AU58, sold it because, while it was nice, wanted MS.)
Saw a dozen, or so, examples at FUN '05. Most of the AU were priced MS62ish, and the MS61/62 coins were NOT nice ones (carbon spotted, etc) and they still wanted top money.
Went through one 55/55 that was darker than what I would like.
Worked with Mark Feld and he found me a VERY nicely toned NGC 55/55 in MS63BN. I had a filler with PCGS later and put it in the slot. It is now a PCGS MS63BN.
Since then, I decided to get a '09svdb (again, thanks to Mark's help) and got a MS64RB for less than the 55/55.
I like them both. More importantly, my son likes them both.
If I could only have 1...it would be the 55/55. As mentioned, it is just a cool coin that almost anyone can appreciate (and, I have shown both around my work and the 55/55 stands out to everyone...the '09svdb has to be explained and even then it is just "mmmm...ok".)
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........i'd take the one with the sticker.
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Great coins and images!
......i would imagine there are fewer 55's than the s-vdb so i'll go for that.
15.5 chose the 55 DDO
8.5 chose the S-VDB
(The .5 is for the poster who likes them both equally.)
love em both but, if i had to choose, the dd would win
Lance.
I would go for the 55/55. The thing I've always liked about the 55/55 is that you don't need a loupe to see the error. It is obvious. Cool looking coin.
The 1909 SVBD is currently 100 years old exactly, so I think that the prices may be temporarily inflated.
Bottom line: I would go the 55/55 - but I think that either would be a good investment, if you are willing to hold them for awhile.
I still get a shiver when I see a great image of one.
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<< <i>If impressing non-collectors is the goal, wouldn't a double-struck Lincoln work even better than a 1955 DDO? It would certainly be cheaper. >>
Impressing non-collectors is NOT the goal...but it could be a nice result of your choice between the two coins.
There is no specific goal other than responding to an extreme scenario in which you can choose either a 55 DDO or an 09-S VDB for your collection...but not both.
I'm curious about which coin collectors appreciate most.
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<< <i>
<<the sVDB can be beautiful, 55DDO to me is an unattractive coin due to the poor state of the hub>>
Youre crazy!
Ok, yes the finest know examples of the 55DDO are attractive - I can admit that .
At my level of collecting these (60-63 BN or RB) I still like the portrait detail and look of the 09sVDB compared to the wow factor and poor portrait detail of 55ddo. So if the OP ran the zoo and forced me to own only one - the '09 is it.
Edited for spelling.
<< <i>So if the OP ran the zoo... >>
Things would be mighty different around here, I tell ya!