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TexasNationals · July 28, 2009 8:21AM

1982 1/10 oz. gold panda (proof)
1994 1/10 oz. platnium panda (proof)
2004 1/4 oz. palladium panda (proof)
1989 1 oz. silver panda (proof)

The coins are very nice and my first pandas, are any of these tougher coins as I am having a hard time locating mintages and prices on these. The set is in a blue velvet box, with a certificate that says The Commemorative Palladium Coin of Chinese Panda 2004- No. 007727.

Any help on value and mintages would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Jeff

mkman123 · July 28, 2009 11:02AM

If its labeled 2004, why are their other years in it? The grammar is very poor, I wonder if these are fakes.........

TexasNationals · July 28, 2009 11:42AM

No they are legit sets

GRANDAM · July 28, 2009 4:35PM

The 1 oz Silver and the 1/10 oz Gold and the 1/10 Platinum coins are BU not proof. I haven't studied Palladium Panda's but I don't think it is a Proof either.

The 1982 1/10 oz Gold had a mintage of 77,598 pcs.

The 1989 1 oz Silver mintage was 255,000 pcs.

The 1994 1/10 oz Platinum mintage was 2500 pcs

There were no proof 1982 1/10 oz Panda's and if the 1989 1 oz Silver was a proof it would a P with a circle around it on the Panda side which is actually the reverse. The temple side is the obverse.

It is confusing as BU Panda's have a Proof-like appearance but are not considered as Proof's.

To confuse you even more most of the years of Proof Panda's have the circled P on the reverse but some years don't.

Prices vary widely on these coins from a low of spot to whatever the market will bear. The 1982 1/10 oz usually brings a nice premium and sometimes double spot. I know I have about $240 in my PCGS MS69 example. The 1994 Platinum should bring a large premium also. If I recall correctly the last one I saw on eBay had a HUGE price tag on it but I don't recall exactly what it was? The 1989 silver is common and sells for $20 - $40 raw.

Get them in PCGS MS69 holders and the prices go UP!!!!!

GrandAm

CaptHenway · July 28, 2009 10:24PM

The certificate says the palladium coin is a half ounce.
TD

mkman123 · July 29, 2009 12:37AM

texasnationals, is the pallad 1/4 or 1/2 oz? If its 1/4 oz, then I think there is a discrepancy as the cert says its 1/2 oz.......

trozau · July 29, 2009 10:53AM

This is NOT a set issued by the China Mint (it may not even be a set put together by Panda America). I have a hunch that this was put together by a collector who put them in Air Tites then ordered an Air Tite blue velvet steel case with custom cut-outs. The certificate is only for the palladium coin because it is a limited maximum issue of 8000. The rest, (as stated) are NOT proof (China Mint likes to call them PL - proof-like).

TexasNationals · July 29, 2009 11:55AM

Do any of the coins carry any numismatic value? Thanks for leting me know that they are UNC and not proof!

J

trozau · July 29, 2009 12:49PM

Here's a link to someone's list of key date pandas: ===> clickable link

fc · July 29, 2009 12:53PM

i have been poisoned to anything bullion wise from china. once bitten
twice shy. everything from them looks fake to me now days knowing
the can fake every part of a coin, the cert, case, and etc...

mkman123 · July 30, 2009 3:28AM

I still don't know why texasnationals hasn't addressed why the pallad is 1/4 but the cert says 1/2. Chinese fakes are known for grammatical errors, look at the fake silver set FC bought. Things didn't add up when he compared the bar to the cert as there was different weights. This set is suspect.........I hope you look into it before selling to someone else.

TexasNationals · July 30, 2009 3:44AM

mkman123

Look at my original post, I edited it as I accidentially put 1/4 instead of 1/2 oz.

TexasNationals · July 30, 2009 3:47AM

I bought it from a bullion dealer, I know it is legit, they were put together by some commericial company hence the different dates. I never said the chinese gov't put it together? Where did you get resale from? I asked about values of the dates, what are you implying?? Read tool!

mkman123 · July 30, 2009 3:56AM

I still see 1/4 on the very top post. Perhaps edit that.

fc · July 30, 2009 5:44AM

<< <i>I still see 1/4 on the very top post. Perhaps edit that. >>

tool? i also see 1/4 ounce on the very first post, line 3, and the cert
says 1/2.

mkman123... this is what i call the denial stage. when a person does
not want to think they have been ripped off and are still hopeful the
chinese crap is real.

SilverEagles92 · July 30, 2009 6:41AM

gecko109 · July 30, 2009 7:01AM

<< <i>I bought it from a bullion dealer, I know it is legit, they were put together by some commericial company hence the different dates. I never said the chinese gov't put it together? Where did you get resale from? I asked about values of the dates, what are you implying?? Read tool! >>

This is why I refuse to help this idiot. I strongly suggest the rest of you follow suit. This guy is persona non grata.

adamlaneus · July 30, 2009 7:02AM

Regardless of the text in the first post...

Based on the size of the coin in the picture:

That does appear to be a 1/2 ounce palladium coin, not a 1/4 ounce one.

I am no expert on these, but I think they are bullion value only.

The original coins did not come in black-ringed air-tites. This is not really a 'set' as much as it is four coins, in airtites, in a box, with one certificate for one of the coins.

Konahead · November 21, 2009 4:10AM

<< <i>Regardless of the text in the first post...

Based on the size of the coin in the picture:

That does appear to be a 1/2 ounce palladium coin, not a 1/4 ounce one.

I am no expert on these, but I think they are bullion value only.

The original coins did not come in black-ringed air-tites. This is not really a 'set' as much as it is four coins, in airtites, in a box, with one certificate for one of the coins. >>

The 1 oz silver panada is one of the oldest and not easy to find. This will bring a premium, check Ebay for recent sales.

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