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Will you be paying $9 a month for the new coinfacts?

Seems like a great way to bring in some cash, but for the cost of another collectors club membership, Im not paying.

I used coinfacts alot, but I wont be paying for info I can find in my books hat Ive bought for this hobby.


Is the new coinfacts going to be used less than the old one due to pay to play?



Also, Im not trying to knock this program, just trying to figure out why make it a paid for service... Isnt it good business to offer some stuff to your collectors for free to get them here and keep them...


What are some of you guys thinking about this service, will you pay and use it or will you not?


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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    Nope.
    imageRIP
  • Not me. Seems to me that they are trying to compete with the big companies like CCE I think it is. On that site you pay something like $300-$400 a month and it seems to be to get rid of the poor people from using their site. Kinda a drag if you ask me, I am a fan of PCGS but the way it seems I may have to rethink it. Once they charge for the CU forumns then I am truly outta here. I say this because some of us can't afford it.
    In the time of Chimpanzee's
    I was a Monkey
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Not at this point in time.

    I already have access to population reports.

    I already have access to the PCGS Price Guide.

    I already can look up auction histories all I want for the venues I use.

    I have copies of all the TrueViewed coins I admire already and don't really need any more pretty pictures.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    nope
  • Definitely not in my budget.
    Have bought and sold on BST, many references available when asked.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Not a chance.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Down already?

    image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • I joined.

    After browsing for a couple of minutes the site went down...

    Who is John Galt?
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes. Lots of info & images for $9/mo.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,093 ✭✭✭
    No.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Its back up.

    Prolly just a hiccup.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • blue594blue594 Posts: 550
    $9/month is too expensive for me.
    Too bad.

    John
    Successful BSTs with lordmarcovan, pontiacinf, Harry779, ajia, jfoot13, coinfame, Hammered54, fivecents, Coll3ctor, al410, commoncents123.
  • I joined thinking they might have three things I would find very useful.

    1. Historical PCGS "values" for a given coin and condition. They do not offer this as far as I can tell.
    2. Historical PCGS "populations" for a given coin and coindition. They do not offer this as far as I can tell.
    3. Accurate auction records for a cross-section of the largest auction firms. I quickly looked at their auction records for 1793 half cents. Their records were very incomplete, listing one coin selling for more than $100K when a quick glance at Heritage and Stacks showed at least five.

    The site has potential and I'm hopeful it will eventually improve.


    Who is John Galt?
  • Bossman88Bossman88 Posts: 638 ✭✭
    I think I am going to
    wait a couple of months
    and let them work out
    any bugs or errors that pop up.

    Regards, Larryimage
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wasn't this free at one time.At the platinum /silver level membership?
  • <<Wasn't this free at one time.At the platinum /silver level membership? >>

    No, it was free to everyone. Now, they add the pops, and some auction records and charge you $9 a month, or $95 a year.




    I wonder if this place will soon be a pay for tool for the collectors.



    Slabbing doesnt pay the bills, crossovers dont, truviews dont, memberships dont pay, but this $9 month service will bring in more collectors... image


    Do you think they will start charging a yearly fee to just own PCGS graded coins?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Can I answer after my next submission gets graded?
  • Sure, use your post for an update.image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They have taking away my free pop report which i received when i joined the platinum membership.
    This is not right! I payed for this service and still have seven months till my membership runs out.
  • So the pop reports are now only part of the new and improved coinfacts site that one needs to pay for?


  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    If you ever want to incur the wrath of the cheap, give something away free to them for a while then try and charge them for it.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They have taking away my free pop report which i received when i joined the platinum membership.
    This is not right! I payed for this service and still have seven months till my membership runs out. >>



    Funny, I still have access to my online pop reports yet I didn't join.

    What errors/prompts are you receiving?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mine was not FREE! I payed for it through my membershipimage.Believe me,it's not the money
    it's the way they conduct business.
  • <<If you ever want to incur the wrath of the cheap, give something away free to them for a while then try and charge them for it. >>


    I sir Im anything but cheap. In life, Im more generous and giving than most I know. I dont mind paying for something that is worth it, but Im not paying for something I can get elsewhere for free. I dont consider that cheap, I consider that a smart shopper.

    Charging for pop reports through your membership, then having to pay for them again through the new coinfacts doesnt seem like a good way to treat your paying members.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So the pop reports are now only part of the new and improved coinfacts site that one needs to pay for? >>



    That's what it looks to me.I tryed the site a few time and it won't come up.
  • <<Mine was not FREE! I payed for it through my membership.Believe me,it's not the money
    it's the way they conduct business. >>

    Are you talking about the one linked in Stones master thread list? If so, it was free for me to use, and I used it almost everyday...
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes. Lots of info & images for $9/mo. >>


    I think for a business like yours, this would be perfect. For the "hoi polloi", this would be very expensive.
    Paul
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I have a platinum membership and can still see the pop reports and I didn't join coinfacts either.
  • So the pop reports just overlap and are not moved to just the new coinfacts?


  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a platinum membership and can still see the pop reports and I didn't join coinfacts either. >>



    Maybe it's my computer.The site will not come up for me.Oh well.


  • << <i>I have a platinum membership and can still see the pop reports and I didn't join coinfacts either. >>




    At the start of the locked announcement thread Don says that Pop reports will overlap... available on the site and thru Membership ...

    As for me and the new site... never used the old one so I do not think I have much motivation to pay for the new one...

    When it comes to knowledge...I enjoy the search more than simply having it handed to me...I prefer to learn over being told what someone else decides I should know... but hey... that's just me... image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was my computerimage Now it's working.
  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    I took the tour and linked into the "real" pages they offer. It is somewhat impressive what they've done.

    The so-called "sample pages" were chock full of advertisements. I wonder if the ads are there for real subscribers?image

    Seems to me if they're going to advertise on every page, then they should offer the content for free and let the advertisers pay for the cost of providing it. I know I wouldn't want to pony up $10 a month and have to get bombarded with internet ads.
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  • <<The so-called "sample pages" were chock full of advertisements. I wonder if the ads are there for real subscribers?

    Seems to me if they're going to advertise on every page, then they should offer the content for free and let the advertisers pay for the cost of providing it. I know I wouldn't want to pony up $10 a month and have to get bombarded with internet ads.>>


    Dont use an adblocker!
  • Maybe just maybe in time they will lower the initial price (like $100 instead of $199 for the platinum membership) for subscription memberships to those who could care less to pay for pop reports or facts they can get for free elsewhere. What do you guys think about PCGS lowering their prices on different membership fees geared more to fit in each collectors needs instead of all or nothing?
    In the time of Chimpanzee's
    I was a Monkey
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you ever want to incur the wrath of the cheap, give something away free to them for a while then try and charge them for it. >>



    imageimageimage

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    Or in other words:

    "I want the red truck!"

    That was a limited time offer only...
    imageRIP
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    No. I really do wish it were free but alas, nothing is in the corporate world.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You've got to be kidding me.image

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I am reserving judgment and am keeping

    my cash in my pocket for the time being.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't use it for free and I certainly won't be paying for it!
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • tombrtombr Posts: 863 ✭✭
    Nope.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe $9 per year...
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<If you ever want to incur the wrath of the cheap, give something away free to them for a while then try and charge them for it. >>


    I sir Im anything but cheap. In life, Im more generous and giving than most I know. I dont mind paying for something that is worth it, but Im not paying for something I can get elsewhere for free. I dont consider that cheap, I consider that a smart shopper.

    Charging for pop reports through your membership, then having to pay for them again through the new coinfacts doesnt seem like a good way to treat your paying members. >>



    First off, who called you cheap? I was simply making an observation on human behavior. If the shoe fits, wear it, if not, don't.

    Second, you don't have to "pay for [pop reports] again". They are still available through both PCGS and the new Coinfacts, so your criticism in this case is unfounded, IMO.

    Third, if you think that you can find the same information available in Coinfacts as you can at any other single sight, then I challenge you to show a source that has the following: Pictures and a write-up of every US issue along with population reports, historical auction records, and color photos.

    Listen, you may not want to pay $9/month for the service, but there's no reason to stretch the truth to justify your decision....Mike

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like perhaps Mike hit a nerve or two. image

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012


  • << <i>They have taking away my free pop report which i received when i joined the platinum membership.
    This is not right! I payed for this service and still have seven months till my membership runs out. >>



    So what are the benefits of becoming a platinum member now? I have been a platinum member for the last 3 years. This has got me reconsidering. Maybe cheaper to just do the silver membership and Coinfacts then the platinum. I wonder if they plan on including the coinfacts in the platinum membership.
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
  • ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    Not me.

    Get my "facts" elsewhere... and yes, I might thoroughly enjoy the "new" coinfacts, and it's prolly got lots of nice updated features... but for the limited buys I make, my small potatoes hobby will just have to forego this resource.

    There are many others I use, and not nearly as many as others in this forum... PCGS should consider that most resources on the web, for nearly anything anyone would think to search for - and RE-search - don't charge viewers to do so.
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