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Could any coin be acquired for a price????

I'm not talking about the sentimental stuff that is worth more to us personally than anything....I mean the ones that we hear about that are in "strong" collector(or probably more accurately....investor's) hands. Most things can be had for a price....even if the price is absurd! Is it true with coins also? This can go from a widget that maybe worth only a few dollars in numismatic markets....to the rarest of the rare. What do you think?

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  • << <i>I'm not talking about the sentimental stuff that is worth more to us personally than anything....I mean the ones that we hear about that are in "strong" collector(or probably more accurately....investor's) hands. Most things can be had for a price....even if the price is absurd! Is it true with coins also? This can go from a widget that maybe worth only a few dollars in numismatic markets....to the rarest of the rare. What do you think? >>



    Everything has a price.

    Wow that sounded cryptic. If you offer enough money you can buy most things.

    Look up the story on how Elvis bought his farm...Actually quite funny.
  • In other words, is there a coin so rare that none are available for sale at any price? Such as a 1933 Saint?


  • << <i>In other words, is there a coin so rare that none are available for sale at any price? Such as a 1933 Saint? >>



    I'm sure theres still a 33 saint or 2 still around in the underworld of coins. Rumors of 1964 peace dollars persist. I guess theres a few that axist only in museums supposedly that might be unavailable.

    But if you have the money you can hire someone to steal it. Would that count as a purchase? Have to explain the boundaries of such a mental exercise. A lot of us here have way too active imaginations and watch a lot of action adventure movies....
  • There may be coins that the are so rare that the 2 or 3 holders would not sell them for any price I suppose.
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Not being a mega whale, not knowing for sure how mega whales deal with these situations, I would hazard a GUESS that if you offered incredibly stupid money for one or more of their mega exclusive prizes the average mega whale, laughing at how stupid your money was, secure in his or her own ego, might well let go of the prize and take your incredibly stupid money. Mega whales, by virtue of their mega status, probably wouldn't notice any offer where your money was merely stupid. But, if your money was incredibly stupid ....
  • It depends upon if the person sho is holding it needs it for a set but then again if the offer is high enough anything can be bought
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think so.
  • Everything in this world can be had at some kind of price- Not always monetary but EVERYTHING has a price.

  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Everything in this world can be had at some kind of price- Not always monetary but EVERYTHING has a price. >>


    Yep, I would agree.
    ED
    .....................................................
  • eCoinquesteCoinquest Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭
    of course, almost any human would sell their coin/s if a couple hundred million $$$$$$ were offered. jmo
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    Doubt it... at least not for a reasonable price...

    Try getting the Child's 1804 dollar for less than $10M or TDN's 1870-s for anywhere close to $3M... Both examples are "crazy" prices for the coins that I'm pretty sure the owners would shrug off in a heartbeat. Some don't need any more money, and some would just rather have that irreplacable coin!
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • intenceintence Posts: 1,255
    if the price is right sure why not
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  • <<Could any coin be acquired for a price????>>

    In my experience, you can not do it for a 1972 D type B quarter. If somebody wants to prove me wrong PM me.
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes!
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    Not being a mega whale, not even being a whale, I would have to say, of the coins in my collection, yes, even the one that is my current favorite will have a price, if you want the coin bad enough image

  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I think some are not allowed to be sold


    (like the Smithsonian collection, ANAs, Notre Dames)


    so when you say for a price, does it mean like fancy art - you have to hire a top notch thief ???


    and plan on sitting on your prize forever until you die?
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    nobody gets my 61-D lincoln cent in 63 red for less than $22,000.00

    and THATS FINA...NEGOTIABLE !
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,358 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if the price is right sure why not >>



    Agree. Offer the guy that owns the only 1933 Saint gold $20 in private hands ten times what he paid for it and see what he says.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    offer him 1000x what he paid for the 33 saint- if he doesnt want to sell it... well...
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not talking about the sentimental stuff that is worth more to us personally than anything....I mean the ones that we hear about that are in "strong" collector(or probably more accurately....investor's) hands. Most things can be had for a price....even if the price is absurd! Is it true with coins also? This can go from a widget that maybe worth only a few dollars in numismatic markets....to the rarest of the rare. What do you think? >>





    for the right price you will sell anything you have no matter how you feel about it!
    PEACE! This is the first day of the rest of your life.

    Fred, Las Vegas, NV
  • The business end of a gun will take anything from me
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don’t think that anyone will ever get the only known and located 1849 double eagle from the Smithsonian collection. J.P. Morgan offered the government $10,000 for it back in around 1910, and they turned him down. Back then $10,000 was unheard of sum for a coin.

    Ditto, for the rest of the treasures that are in the Smithsonian, like one of the two the 1907 High Relief $20 gold pieces that are double the thickness and the diameter of a $10 gold piece. These were the pieces that inspired the 2009 UHR $20 gold.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    > I don’t think that anyone will ever get the only known and located 1849 double eagle from the Smithsonian collection


    Maybe, maybe not. Institutions that go broke, governments that lose all ability to balance their books (not naming any world superpowers today) have been known to sell off many types of priceless treasures. Sometimes they let them go quietly. Sometimes it's done with a gun pointed at their head. Sometimes street mobs get to them before the treasure can be safely moved into hiding.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    doesn't this belong on the BST?

    but name your price firstimage
    LCoopie = Les
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am trying to put together a high end error collection "type set"

    Many if not most of the pieces are one of a kind with exceptional eye appeal

    These coin are not for sale. I most likely would not take an offer for 5 times my cost as they are unique and part of a set

    that said, if some super wealthy collector came along and offered me some absurd price I mean way out there, well then I would be a fool not to take it.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don’t think that anyone will ever get the only known and located 1849 double eagle from the Smithsonian collection. >>



    I say it is for sale. Now, whether the price is $100M, $1B, or $10B I can not say, but if you start adding enough zeroes, it is for sale.
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    If a collector owns it , you can buy it. I do not care how attached they claim they are to it. It would not take stupid money to get most of them. A nice profit will eat at them. Whales like money and playing the game. You have to be smarter than the whale. If you want his 3.2 million dollar coin, make the offer to his other half and she will do the work for you.
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I'm thinking that there a lot of coins at the Smithsonian that are pretty much un-acquireable.


  • << <i>I'm thinking that there a lot of coins at the Smithsonian that are pretty much un-acquireable. >>


    Think "mission impossible"
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm thinking that there a lot of coins at the Smithsonian that are pretty much un-acquireable. >>



    Nah. Probably $10M and a "permanent loan" back to the Smithsonian would do the trick for most coins. Take away the "permanent loan" clause and the price goes up, but it's all negotiable.......
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    price goes beyond just$$$. I am pretty sure if you built a complete collection of 20$ double eagles of mostly top POPs and set up a traveling exhibition tied to the ANA you could get the 1849 lent with the proper insurance associated with it. Then if it went poof in the night, well that would be a high price to pay
  • Whenever I get approached to sell something that I'm not actively selling and they ask, "what will you take for it?" my standard answer is

    "Got enough money? I'll sell you a kidney"

    .....somewhere north of 11 digits
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if it can be legally sold,
    yes

    say someone has a 10 million dollar coin
    that they inherited from their great great great grandfather,
    George Washington
    and they were very wealthy already,
    not needing any money

    and Bill Gates offered them 1 billion dollars for it

    ...
    LCoopie = Les
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,358 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Whenever I get approached to sell something that I'm not actively selling and they ask, "what will you take for it?" my standard answer is

    "Got enough money? I'll sell you a kidney"

    .....somewhere north of 11 digits >>



    It's illegal to sell body parts.



    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002


    << <i>

    << <i>if the price is right sure why not >>



    Agree. Offer the guy that owns the only 1933 Saint gold $20 in private hands ten times what he paid for it and see what he says. >>

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    If you want to start coming up with scenarios whereby someone offers $42,000,000,000,000,000 for a coin (or anything else, for that matter), then yes, I suppose everything could be acquired.

    But in real world scenarios in which the owners are wealthy people who like the coins and don't need the money, then no reasonable offer could ever pry them loose.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    yes. I'm sure if bill gates got into coins, he could acquire every US coin out there in the finest grades with no problems at all
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