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1776 Pewter Continental Dollar PCGS AU58 on Heritage

What will it hammer at? Do you like it? I need a drool bib.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice... Cheers, RickO
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool coin. The previous auction results are from 5 years ago, so it'll be interesting to see how much it brings. I'll guess around $35-40K.
  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    That does look truely amazing. image
    "It is what it is."
  • ttt for the night crew.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,093 ✭✭✭
    Not nearly as cool as the Bronze one they have as well.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • You're absolutely right Paul and an MS63 to boot.
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  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    I think that I'd rather have the silver version if it wasn't dipped out...
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    image It might be coming time for a second revolution
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    No idea as to hammer price, but if there was one "dream" coin to own it would be that one...in silver.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,243 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No idea as to hammer price, but if there was one "dream" coin to own it would be that one...in silver. >>



    I'd take a nice on in pewter, but for this issue, the train as passed me by on this one. Back when I was a young collector I could have swung one, but it was a risky buy. Deceptive copies of this coin are as thick as fleas, and certification was almost non existent.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No idea as to hammer price, but if there was one "dream" coin to own it would be that one...in silver. >>



    I'd take a nice on in pewter, but for this issue, the train as passed me by on this one. Back when I was a young collector I could have swung one, but it was a risky buy. Deceptive copies of this coin are as thick as fleas, and certification was almost non existent. >>


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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Continental Dollars are known and desired by mainstream collectors as well as specialists. But mainstream collectors may want one because 1) it has the 1776 date; 2) it was designed by Ben Franklin; and 3) they believe it circulated in the newly independent American colonies as regular issue coinage. This third reason may be a major contributor for why the prices for these coins are so high.

    Maybe I'm jaded by their price relative to their rarity and also by the pieces I usually see on the market. But, off the top of my head, here's what I think:

    1. While one or two varieties may be extremely rare, I don't believe they are rare as a type. I would estimate that they are R-2 to R-3 as a type. This, to me, does not justify their price.

    2. The ones I recall seeing most frequently on the market are conserved and terrible looking, usually in NCS slabs it seems.

    3. The 1776 date is cool. But I don't think they ever actually circulated as legal tender - at least not much. I think that if they did, they would have taken over as the coin of choice to replace the 8 reales. I say that knowing that most people during the colonial period could barely afford low denomination copper pieces, much less something as valuable as full 8 real coins or their equivalents.

    4. While their design is cool - as is the fact that they were designed by Franklin - I like the later adaptation of this design as used on the Fugios much better, especially with the "Mind Your Business" motto so prominently displayed on Fugios.

    Bottom line...Continental Dollars are not super rarities and their prices seem too high (in my opinion) when compared to legitimate super rarities in the colonial series.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK, I put some thought into that last post...and nobody wants to comment or debate further?

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Continental Dollars are known and desired by mainstream collectors as well as specialists. But mainstream collectors may want one because 1) it has the 1776 date; 2) it was designed by Ben Franklin; and 3) they believe it circulated in the newly independent American colonies as regular issue coinage. This third reason may be a major contributor for why the prices for these coins are so high.

    Maybe I'm jaded by their price relative to their rarity and also by the pieces I usually see on the market. But, off the top of my head, here's what I think:

    1. While one or two varieties may be extremely rare, I don't believe they are rare as a type. I would estimate that they are R-2 to R-3 as a type. This, to me, does not justify their price.

    2. The ones I recall seeing most frequently on the market are conserved and terrible looking, usually in NCS slabs it seems.

    3. The 1776 date is cool. But I don't think they ever actually circulated as legal tender - at least not much. I think that if they did, they would have taken over as the coin of choice to replace the 8 reales. I say that knowing that most people during the colonial period could barely afford low denomination copper pieces, much less something as valuable as full 8 real coins or their equivalents.

    4. While their design is cool - as is the fact that they were designed by Franklin - I like the later adaptation of this design as used on the Fugios much better, especially with the "Mind Your Business" motto so prominently displayed on Fugios.

    Hey now, well put!

    Bottom line...Continental Dollars are not super rarities and their prices seem too high (in my opinion) when compared to legitimate super rarities in the colonial series. >>

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