How will bourse lighting be affected by the phase out of incandescent light bulbs in 2012?

CoinHusker · July 12, 2009 10:09PM

I read this article and wondered what the lighting on a bourse floor will look like in 2012 and beyond. I assume the "Reveal" type bulbs are included in this so what are we left with? Compact flourescent? LED? I have a feeling there's going to be some light bulb hoarding going on before the phase out.

ambro51 · July 12, 2009 10:25PM

You could certainly use a filter to change the light to 3400K from the blueish lighting. would need to increase the intensity though.

MidLifeCrisis · July 12, 2009 10:27PM

I have no idea...but I applaud your Longacre-like question.

PerryHall · July 12, 2009 11:41PM

This is just more "Change you can believe in." from big brother.

ricko · July 13, 2009 12:11AM

To me, it is not really relevant, since adequate lighting can always be found. Either by bringing a flashlight (high intensity LED) as I do, or walking outside, or asking for increased table luminance. Cheers, RickO

stinkinlincoln · July 13, 2009 12:12AM

It wont be an issue. Thats the year we are suppose to have the end of the world IIRC.

COINB0Y · July 13, 2009 12:14AM

You could always take it outside and use the Sun.

COINB0Y · July 13, 2009 12:15AM

<< It wont be an issue. Thats the year we are suppose to have the end of the world IIRC.

>>

Opps, I forgot about that! Even after watching the History Channel on Saturday!

CoinHusker · July 13, 2009 1:07AM

<< I have no idea...but I applaud your Longacre-like question.

>>

Thank you.

ambro51 · July 13, 2009 1:10AM

I dont think there is a copper collector out there who wont tell you their RD and RB coins look worlds different under 3400K incandescent lighting. As long as graders use this type of light to examine coins, I feel it is very important to inspect and sell the coins using this same type of light. For Gold and Silver....maybe not so important.

Shortie · July 13, 2009 1:21AM

It will stink more than it already does.

Prethen · July 13, 2009 1:47AM

Since Russ hasn't chimed in to note this....

Covered in this thread...here

19Lyds · July 13, 2009 1:52AM

<< To me, it is not really relevant, since adequate lighting can always be found. Either by bringing a flashlight (high intensity LED) as I do, or walking outside, or asking for increased table luminance. Cheers, RickO >>

I like the "walking outside" part Rick! I can only imagine how this would work at a major coin show.

Frankcoins · July 13, 2009 2:34AM

<< This is just more "Change you can believe in." from big brother. >>

There is no such mandate..but talk radio likes to stir up a frenzy by saying Nancy Pelosi wants to
take away your light bulbs and your liberty...

Under the measure, all light bulbs must use 25% to 30% less energy than today’s products by 2012 to 2014. The phase-in will start with 100-watt bulbs in 2012 and end with 40-watt bulbs in 2014. By 2020, bulbs must be 70% more efficient.

but "daylight" compact fluorescents (5000K) are far closer to sunlight and better for viewing coins anyway. I have used them for all my coin photos for
several years. I use them in my table lamps at shows and it's a much better experience for my customers who no longer sweat from the heat generated by
incandescents.

8RealesReality · July 13, 2009 6:25AM

<< You could always take it outside and use the Sun. >>

Not if the current administration taxes that out of existence, too!

HalfStrike · July 13, 2009 6:42AM

I plan on hoarding the real light bulbs before the phase out. There is no reason to change what works.

PerryHall · July 13, 2009 6:46AM

<< 

<< You could always take it outside and use the Sun. >>

Not if the current administration taxes that out of existence, too! >>

With all the global warming they are predicting, your slabs would all melt.

Barndog · July 13, 2009 6:51AM

the Summer FUN Show last week was slightly better lit than a cave

krueger · July 13, 2009 7:20AM

"It wont be an issue. Thats the year we are suppose to have the end of the world IIRC."

December 21, 2012, sell everything before then! lol

Krueger

CoinHusker · July 13, 2009 7:23AM

<< There is no such mandate..but talk radio... >>

US News and World Report was the source in the link and it sounded like a mandate to me...but what do I know.

Your info on daylight CFL's was interesting. Thanks.

BECOKA · July 13, 2009 7:24AM

If they use CFL Daylight bulbs it will probably be better than what they have now. Don't they already use those long 4 foot fluorescent bulbs negating the need for replacement?

MrHalfDime · July 13, 2009 9:41AM

Only a few short years ago, a large national poll asked Americans to vote on what they believed to be the "most significant" invention ever invented, the invention which had the greatest positive impact on mankind, and to give their reasons for thinking so. Participants were not limited to a finite list of choices, but were free to nominate any invention of their choosing. There were many nominations, some serious, some not so serious, including fire (more of a discovery than an invention in my mind), the wheel, the condom, electricity, radio, television, and many others. But the invention that garnered the most votes, by a large margin, was Thomas Edison's incandescent light bulb. The reasons for these winning votes were many and varied, but included increased productivity since the work day was no longer limited to the hours of available sunlight, the ability to read, work, and study long after the sun went down, and increased safety from fires from candles and whale oil lamps. I find it tragically ironic that a mere 130 years after the invention of the lightbulb, the very symbol of creative thinking and ingenuity, a misguided Congress has relegated the incandescent light bulb to the proverbial trash heap, somehow believing that "Going Green" will win them more votes at election time. I can only wonder what the "unintended consequences" of this brilliant legislation will be.

Bear · July 13, 2009 9:43AM

Switch to candle light. More romantic that way.

BECOKA · July 13, 2009 9:48AM

<< Switch to candle light. More romantic that way. >>

See previous post, that is a fire hazard.

PerryHall · July 13, 2009 9:48AM

<< Switch to candle light. More romantic that way. >>

Don't get the slab too close to the flame or you may melt the plastic. At least with a raw coin, you may get some nice color with that flame.

Bear · July 13, 2009 9:52AM

Actually, the candle would be useful

to roast raw coins. Nothing livens up

a dull show more, then a collector

going up in flames.

PerryHall · July 13, 2009 9:54AM

<< Actually, the candle would be useful

to roast raw coins. Nothing livens up

a dull show more, then a collector

going up in flames. >>

It would also be fun to heat a coin in the flame and then hand it to a dealer.

BECOKA · July 13, 2009 9:58AM

It would also be fun to see what kind of cooked color we can get on a coin baking it with a candle.

Justacommeman · July 13, 2009 10:33AM

I know a guy who changed all his bulbs in his house to the same ones they use at Long Beach. All his coins look great again................MJ

yellowkid · July 13, 2009 11:06AM

A few years ago I bought enough of those bulbs to outfit the whole house, but figured I would rotate them in as the incandescent bulbs burnt out. To date I have replaced two of the new bulbs(is that re-replacement?) and still have plenty of the old type still working, so much for the new bulbs. This is the same government who outlawed gas cans and replaced them with these bizarre twist caps that squirt gasoline all over, and toilets that "save" water, but have to be flushed twice. As the old joke goes "Don't worry, I'm here from the government to help you out"

droopyd · July 13, 2009 6:18PM

<< [customers who no longer sweat from the heat generated by incandescents. >>

then there's those halogen lights....

droopyd · July 13, 2009 6:22PM

<< toilets that "save" water, but have to be flushed twice. >>

i've never had that particular problem with low-flow toilets.

droopyd · July 13, 2009 6:26PM

<< OI find it tragically ironic that a mere 130 years after the invention of the lightbulb, the very symbol of creative thinking and ingenuity, a misguided Congress has relegated the incandescent light bulb to the proverbial trash heap, somehow believing that "Going Green" will win them more votes at election time. I can only wonder what the "unintended consequences" of this brilliant legislation will be. >>

Well, this 130-year-old technology is incredibly inefficient. 1% of the energy goes to make light, while the other 99% generates heat. I don't suppose anyone here is ready to switch back to the days of vacuum tubes.

RaginsteveK · July 13, 2009 6:48PM

early on, spent two days trying to photograph IHCs "realistically"- totally frustrated, until I realized that sunlight was 'way different than incandescent lighting- for RD vs RB or RB vs Brown......

MrHalfDime · July 13, 2009 8:57PM

"I don't suppose anyone here is ready to switch back to the days of vacuum tubes."

A little off topic, but please don't open that can of worms. As an audio engineer who was brought up with vacuum tubes, I have a great appreciation for the inherent characteristic sound delivered by the final stages of a tube amplifier. Many musicians, ham radio operators, and other enthusiasts will agree with me on this. Perhaps the finest sounding amplifier that I have ever heard used a single phase 2A3 output tube - clean and distortion free, if a bit anemic on power.

Oh, and it turns out that vacuum tubes are not susceptible to the electro-magnetic pulse that occurs in a nuclear blast, which all semiconductor junctions are.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · July 13, 2009 10:31PM

<< I plan on hoarding the real light bulbs before the phase out. There is no reason to change what works. >>

My plan as well. Think of it as a lucrative post 2012 black market opportunity.

CoinHusker · July 13, 2009 11:46PM

<< 
Oh, and it turns out that vacuum tubes are not susceptible to the electro-magnetic pulse that occurs in a nuclear blast, which all semiconductor junctions are. >>

Now that's interesting.

Staircoins · July 13, 2009 11:57PM

<< 

<< I plan on hoarding the real light bulbs before the phase out. There is no reason to change what works. >>

My plan as well. Think of it as a lucrative post 2012 black market opportunity.

>>

Ditto. Plenty of room to pile the incandescents in the basement next to the stack of hi-flow shower heads.

CoinHusker · July 14, 2009 3:13AM

<< Ditto. Plenty of room to pile the incandescents in the basement next to the stack of hi-flow shower heads.

>>

Newman: Now here's the lowdown. Through a certain connection, I've been able to locate some black market shower heads. They're all made in the former Yugoslavia. And from what I hear, the Serbs are fanatic about their showers.

Jerry: Not from the footage I've seen.

Kramer: If I don't have a good shower, I am not myself. I feel weak and ineffectual. I'm not Kramer.

shorecoll · July 14, 2009 3:43AM

I was going to switch back to whale oil, but the Greenpeace boats are too fast (I'm getting old and you have to lead them too much!). Beat you too it, didn't I Rick?

How will bourse lighting be affected by the phase out of incandescent light bulbs in 2012?

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