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Newp: 1851 Gold $1 - guess the grade! *Grade Revealed*

BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
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This came in the mail today. New addition to the type set. Comments/grade opinions appreciated!

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The Slab:
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  • tmoneyeaglestmoneyeagles Posts: 442
    MS61?
  • GFourDriverGFourDriver Posts: 2,366 ✭
    MS-62
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way to tell, as there might be a gigantic rim ding under those white tabs. image Seriously.... AU-55
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard to tell from those pics. Could be anywhere from 58 to 62.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very very Nice! Sparp strike, very few contact marks. Dosent look like any wear on the bottom hair curl ,

    edited to add: yes that rim nick, pretty major for a T1, rethinking the grade to MS62 or maybe 61 but I doubt it.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's an MS-63 without the minor rim nicks. With them, I'd say it's an MS-61.

    I would say MS-60, but that grade is almost never used.

    It's well struck and not cleaned, however, that is a big plus.
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  • rjsvtrjsvt Posts: 163 ✭
    I'll say MS62.
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55 if grading was consistent. I just got a 58 1845 half sovereign back from them clearly better - this would be my grade for this coin but consistency in grading small gold coins is a bit rough not to mention market grading which allows for some dogs to get through as MS. Hopefully you get a number you like.
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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I really like it...58 or 62
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    58 with a sticker.
    61 without a sticker
    Slab probably says 61
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  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Thanks for all the comments! I'll post the grade later tonight, and maybe a sharper pic (took this one hand-held).
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58 and looks very attractive

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  • stevendanielsstevendaniels Posts: 378
    I would say 62.
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    I like it a lot.image

    MS62
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It that reveal EST, CST or PST...

    cause, we gotta work on a name next...
  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
    The MS62s have it!

    Ambro - I'll let you christen her! image
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I'd call her Nelly Moser because I have a strange sense of humor.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah. I like Nellie. That's a fine old Victorian era name! Congrats on your purchase, are you going for a type 2 and type 3 also?
  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Nelly it is then.

    Yeah, I'll probably go for a type 3 next when one comes along that I like and fits.

    Again, thanks for all the comments!
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pick your type 3 by the quality of the reverse strike. One of my best examples is an AU58. 1857. Just a hammered strike with the Longacre doubling so strong the wreath tops are joined. Usually that's a feature you see mostly on proofs. Warning.....these coins GROW on you...I started out with one 1853 now Im 26 coins in!
  • GFourDriverGFourDriver Posts: 2,366 ✭
    Ambro......I saw an 1843D Small D $2.50 today that you would have loved. It was PCGS 45 with a green bean. A friend bought it about 2 weeks ago and he knew I would drool over it....lol

    Edited for date.
  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭


    << <i>Pick your type 3 by the quality of the reverse strike. One of my best examples is an AU58. 1857. Just a hammered strike with the Longacre doubling so strong the wreath tops are joined. Usually that's a feature you see mostly on proofs. Warning.....these coins GROW on you...I started out with one 1853 now Im 26 coins in! >>



    Ambro - thanks for the tip. I'll make sure to keep that in mind during my search. Yeah, I remember you mentioned that feature about proofs in another thread. 26 coins in! I know I've seen at least 4 or 5 on this forum. image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,367 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This came in the mail today. New addition to the type set. Comments/grade opinions appreciated!

    imageimage

    The Slab:
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    Based on the serial number in the label, that looks like one of those fake slabs.





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  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Can you guys elaborate on the "fake slab" comments? Not sure if you're serious or kidding! Thanks.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are the numbers above the bar code normal...were they just scrambled for the photo...or do they look like modern art like you reposted on your first post?
  • GFourDriverGFourDriver Posts: 2,366 ✭
    Its not a fake slab, the numbers have been scrambled.
  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Yup - the numbers were "twirled." A distortion method you can use in photobucket. Is that what you were referring to? You had me goin for a second!
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then youre safe. enjoy

    ya NEVER know anymore, eh?
  • BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭


    << <i>Then youre safe. enjoy

    ya NEVER know anymore, eh? >>



    Tell me about it! It's pretty nuts.

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