my feebay fee's were the highest ever in JUNE
shark1970
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wow ebay has tried to convince sellers to offer free shipping in order to save on fee's.
so enough sellers have followed suit and just kicked smart sellers right in the *ss.
most of these sellers don't even realize how much fee's and free shipping are cutting into their bottom line.
now you get hammered on the 4 star chart when sellers leave feedback, they are getting used
to free shipping, so if you charge, even reasonable shipping charges, you get screwed.
just another way for ebay to screw the good sellers out of a nice powerseller discount.
I have 4.9 ratings on the first 3 categories and a 4.6 on shipping charges.
yes I'm a little angry need to vent a little thanks
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price for what they provide.
Why moan here about ebay fees? Isnt there an ebay forum? These fees are well known and everyone has to deal with them. What makes you any different.
If they are that bad, find another place to sell your stuff. Easy concept right? JMO
you must be over charging like in excessive shipping/handling cuz you did not get what you wanted for an item....
poor shark..
It really helps the bottom line charging for shipping.
Shipping is a lot of work and can cost the seller quite a bit.
My shipping stars are the lowest of the four but my as described is 4.9 , isn't that what really matters?????
yeh poor me.
this is why I never post on these threads very often....as I said in
my other post.
I know there are big ebay sellers on here.
do you think I would wast my time if this forum was 100% buyer subscribed???
thanks if I ever thought anyone would agree with me on these forums it would
be on the shipping charge.
the average person does not realize how much it costs to ship coins,
esp rolls..
a 4.9 rating on your shipping is AWESOME if you are charging for the costs.
life is too short people just ready my posts and take it or leave it.
I guess EBay's over reacting to bidder complaints of excessive shipping charges. But instead of trying to enforce a reasonable shipping charge it's easier for them to 'suggest' that you offer free shipping and if you don't, they bump your auctions way down the page on their default "best match" search result. They do try to hurt your power seller rating with the shipping stars... then they force you to accept Pay Pal, which they own, and then they charge you a third fee there!
Of course, their fees are still faaaaaaaaaaaaar less expensive then opening up a local store, stocking it, and or placing ads in national magazines. So, I guess I can't complain too much.
store listings are a waste of time as well these days.
now you can run a buy it now auction for 30 days in the open forum with a listing fee of .35.
I have talked about this with my "account manager" and he hears so many people telling
him that they run a one man to three man operation.....that's why the store listings
worked so well.
now they are buried way down the list. just when we get something set they change the format.
<< <i>We live in a free market society. Find a better, cheaper alternative......... or realize that eBay charges a fair
price for what they provide. >>
I agree with you in principle about the free market, but unfortunately the nature of eBay's business is a perfect natural monopoly -- buyers go where the sellers are, and sellers list where the buyers are. That's an almost impossible combination to break.
Free markets are on the border of breaking down when the barriers to competition become virtually insurmountable.
putting up with ebay is like putting up with the government.
we have to voice our complaints somewhere.
it's corporate america and if we keep living in it, without REALLY trying to do something about it, we will be in big trouble.
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<< <i>We live in a free market society. Find a better, cheaper alternative......... or realize that eBay charges a fair
price for what they provide. >>
I agree with you in principle about the free market, but unfortunately the nature of eBay's business is a perfect natural monopoly -- buyers go where the sellers are, and sellers list where the buyers are. That's an almost impossible combination to break.
Free markets are on the border of breaking down when the barriers to competition become virtually insurmountable. >>
If there weren't at least the threat of competition, eBay would be charging more than they already do. Furthermore,
there already IS competition. There are plenty of coin dealers who will make you an offer if you need to sell ASAP. If
eBay took a higher percentage, it would no longer be a net win for sellers to list there.
I would rather not sell than have to sell on ebay.............
There are other sites, some are lower cost and some are free. Buyers will shop where ever you sell, all you have to do is tell them where to find you.
your comment has absolutely no value to this thread
<< <i>I have absolutely no problem with ebay. For the exposure they give sellers and the choices they give buyers, they are entitled to a "raise" every now and then. >>
<< <i>I have absolutely no problem with ebay. For the exposure they give sellers and the choices they give buyers, they are entitled to a "raise" every now and then. >>
Yea but they seem to be getting alot of raises and often. Would'nt you agree?
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I see "feebay" and "fleabay" and others, and I know people think that is all funny, but I do find it a bit juvenile, especially in rants.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
As far as free shipping just dont play that game and charge the 2.50 or what not for shipping.
--Jerry
<< <i> When selling coins 11% is pretty high any way you slice it. >>
Not really, when you consider Heritage (for example) would charge you 20%.
<< <i>I am going to agree with the OP here. I run about 11% in fees with ebay and paypal. When selling coins 11% is pretty high any way you slice it. The fact is that ebay has alot of buyers as well as sellers so I just have to do alot more volume to even it out. There are no other sites like ebay that work as well or reach as many people. I can send items to an auction house but I dont do auctions just buy it nows.
As far as free shipping just dont play that game and charge the 2.50 or what not for shipping. >>
Exactly. As I've posted before here, and it seems that nobody seems to get it, buyers whine like hell when a dealer has more than a 10% markup but ebay can take 11% and they think you should be able to make it up on volume. Ebay does not understand the coin market and doesn't want to. They think you should be buying widgets from China and marking them up 100-500% so you'll not mind giving ebay 10-15%. Expect them to keep raising fees. The free shipping promotion was just an attempt to get buyers to expect free shipping so you'll have to price shipping into your sale price and ebay gets 10-15% on shipping to. That just isn't even ethical in my opinion. --Jerry
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<< <i> When selling coins 11% is pretty high any way you slice it. >>
Not really, when you consider Heritage (for example) would charge you 20%. >>
Maybe compared to heritage its just 50% of what they charge but its still high IMO
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<< <i> When selling coins 11% is pretty high any way you slice it. >>
Not really, when you consider Heritage (for example) would charge you 20%. >>
Maybe compared to heritage its just 50% of what they charge but its still high IMO >>
Is anyone forcing you to use eBay?
Jerry you nailed it. To add to your statement, Ebay doesn't give a damn about fakes, homemade toners, shills, pirated pics, etc, all about that bottom line. I never offer free shipping, it's NOT free. We need a competitor that's a household name like Ebay.
Scott
eBay hasn't had a fee increase within the last month, so...
If your fees are up, that means you're selling more or at higher prices, right? So what's the problem?
If not, you're doing it wrong.
P.S. Free shipping is a fool's game. Don't fall for it.
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I would think many folks would buy as well. Maybe with only a 7 to 8% going to the auction house it would be a better venue.
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Ebay has a monopoly for sure so stating use another venue jsut doesnt hold water for those trying to make a few extra bucks to survive. I am fond of selling on the forums but again....I list items for well under what I paid and still get nothing but low ball offers so what's a person struggling financially to do? The easy answer is to not sell right now but for a lot of us.....this means struggling to pay the bills and feed our kids. Since we don't have many options to go outside of Ebay......we complain. Is it going to solve anything....no.....is it natural to want to vent about the crappy situation yes.
not eBay's fault. Through them you are getting the maximum exposure possible, so the realized price is probably as good
as you're going to do. Buyers need money to pay bills, also, so there's generally less disposable income chasing after stuff
like collectibles. eBay's stock hasn't exactly been a world-beater lately, so they likely aren't banking obscene profits these
days.
I think that's true. I think it's because many sellers are just dumping a few coins to raise some cash, rather than operating a business. And if those that have a business did the math, they would see that it's better to get a smaller discount (or even no discount) rather than swallowing S&H charges. It works out well for buyers though, and Ebay get's more fee income.
Try lowering your shipping charges so that they cover your costs plus a little profit, and your DSR's should be ok.
<< <i>dizzy
your comment has absolutely no value to this thread >>
....and your opening thread post does???
your comment has absolutely no value to this thread
....and your opening thread post does???>>
Nor does anything else the op has said.
<< <i>If you maintained a 4.9 in all categories and are a power seller, you get a 20% reduction in fees. For the past few months they doubled that for offering free shipping. This gave sellers a potential for 40% off their seller fees which I took advantage of and did well with. But, that promotion is over so I suspect you will see more people charging for shipping again. >>
Same here. I'm going thru all my listings and putting shipping back in. Make sure you do it before it auto-relists if you have a subtitle. The free subtitle is now $1.50. --Jerry
my ebay bill came out to be 9.5% bottom line for june, the highest ever.
so factor in paypal at 2.5% which is the bare minimum makes the total 12%.
my mother once told me if you don't have anything important to say, don't say anything a all.
yes there are tons of ebay forums, but this is where I have chose to speak my mind.
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Heritage is an auction house - you give them the items - they photo, catalog, run auction, collect payments, send item, handle complaints and returns, send you settlement check
eBay is a auction hosting platform - and expect auction house level fees for opening the door and bringing people in
<< <i>you can't compare eBay with Heritage
Heritage is an auction house - you give them the items - they photo, catalog, run auction, collect payments, send item, handle complaints and returns, send you settlement check
eBay is a auction hosting platform - and expect auction house level fees for opening the door and bringing people in >>
Yes, you can compare eBay to Heritage. They are both venues to auction your coins.
Depending on what you are selling and how much of the process you wish to be involved in, one probably makes more
sense than the other. Another factor is how quickly you need to receive payment.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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<< <i>you can't compare eBay with Heritage
Heritage is an auction house - you give them the items - they photo, catalog, run auction, collect payments, send item, handle complaints and returns, send you settlement check
eBay is a auction hosting platform - and expect auction house level fees for opening the door and bringing people in >>
Yes, you can compare eBay to Heritage. They are both venues to auction your coins.
Depending on what you are selling and how much of the process you wish to be involved in, one probably makes more
sense than the other. Another factor is how quickly you need to receive payment. >>
No you cant compare the two. Although they are somewhat similar as they both allow you to sell your coins they are no where near enough to compare the two. As far as someone forcing anyone to use ebay, obviously no one is forcing me or anyone else to use there service. Its just a fact that ebay is the only venue of its kind that reaches a HUGE amount of people. A forum is a place to voice an opinion, belief, or simply to vent. Someone saying they feel that ebay has high fees is not something to bash them for IMO.
<< <i>I don't get why people get so juvenile that they can't use "ebay" as a word.
I see "feebay" and "fleabay" and others, and I know people think that is all funny, but I do find it a bit juvenile, especially in rants. >>
I think that the perjorative misspelling of eBay is often appropos. Plus, anyone with more than 18857 posts is probably a bit juvenile, anyway
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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<< <i>you can't compare eBay with Heritage Heritage is an auction house - you give them the items - they photo, catalog, run auction, collect payments, send item, handle complaints and returns, send you settlement check eBay is a auction hosting platform - and expect auction house level fees for opening the door and bringing people in >>
Yes, you can compare eBay to Heritage. They are both venues to auction your coins. Depending on what you are selling and how much of the process you wish to be involved in, one probably makes more sense than the other. Another factor is how quickly you need to receive payment. >>
You call me when ebay starts photographing my coins, writing a detailed description including past sale results and multiple price guides, pop reports and provenances, publishing a catalog and distributing it to buyers and having the top dealers/collectors/buyers in the country fly in to see my coins before bidding on them and I'll be all over that. --Jerry
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<< <i>I don't get why people get so juvenile that they can't use "ebay" as a word.
I see "feebay" and "fleabay" and others, and I know people think that is all funny, but I do find it a bit juvenile, especially in rants. >>
I think that the perjorative misspelling of eBay is often appropos. Plus, anyone with more than 18857 posts is probably a bit juvenile, anyway
Ya think? Or, Keith, is it always your sniping commentary that are more juvenile?
You think what you want about the altered spellings of ebay and I will think what I will.
The altered spellings are almost always accompanied with rants and whines about ebay....I guess those are things you like?
I used to post a lot more coin pics, and many of those posts you reference were asking coin questions or trying to help folks asking questions.....like a lot of others that have been here for a number of years, I have cut down a lot on my postings because the boards have become more junky by folks always trying to be funny (trust me, most aren't) and not have a serious, helpful, bone in their body.
You don't see Russ, Marty, or many others posting a lot, do you? They have a ton of knowledge and neither was banned.
Others are the same way.
Current posters either want to try to be funny and up their post count, just flat out attack others and question everything, or bring nothing to the table (not serious questions, not anything about US Coins).
You may find it funny, but I find it sad as I learned SO much from posters, over the years, who no longer post (or no longer post much) and now others won't get to have their knowledge....but they'll get to see a few handfuls of folks try to be funny. Hooray!!!
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>you can't compare eBay with Heritage Heritage is an auction house - you give them the items - they photo, catalog, run auction, collect payments, send item, handle complaints and returns, send you settlement check eBay is a auction hosting platform - and expect auction house level fees for opening the door and bringing people in >>
Yes, you can compare eBay to Heritage. They are both venues to auction your coins. Depending on what you are selling and how much of the process you wish to be involved in, one probably makes more sense than the other. Another factor is how quickly you need to receive payment. >>
You call me when ebay starts photographing my coins, writing a detailed description including past sale results and multiple price guides, pop reports and provenances, publishing a catalog and distributing it to buyers and having the top dealers/collectors/buyers in the country fly in to see my coins before bidding on them and I'll be all over that. --Jerry >>
Unless you have a high dollar coin, you won't get a descriptive write up from Heritage. And no matter what you have, you
won't get great photos, either. So, the bottom line is that if you want to put your coins up for auction, eBay and Heritage
are both places that you can do that. I maintain that a lot of times you'll come out ahead on eBay IF you know what you
are doing, and have nice photos available. You'll also get your money MUCH faster. Your claim that Heritage will give you
more eyeballs is pure speculation.
Being a member of various coin forums for years and often hearing this statement made me take note and start up www.Coins4u.net. It is going well and we are constantly gaining new members but being a new business we are nowhere near being on par with ebay yet. I'm not going to bad mouth ebay as I too have used it for years but I always think it's nice to have an alternative choice.
Sellers have started selling coins. One of our sellers just sold a coin worth £2600 (approx $4200).
But continued sales and support will be needed to make it more successful and hopefully another choice or an alternative to ebay.
Total Ebay/Paypal fees have gone from around 6% up to 15% for lower priced items
I just make it back..............Sometimes by raising fixed price starting price, sometimes through S/H.
With low listing prices I can afford to list more stuff and have less action.
I hate it but it is largely a wash.