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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    So how does it feel Stan? To have your honesty called into question?

    You had NO PROBLEM pulling this crap on me 2-3 weeks ago.


    .

    Steve


    Good for you.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    Steve Sipe
    Manager of Autogragh Authentication

    Bob Gryder
    Modern Autograph Expert and Authenticator

    Brandon Mysinger
    Senior NASCAR Authenticator


    Those are the ones who are doing the authenticating.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    discredit me with lies



    Pot meet kettle.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>So how does it feel Stan? To have your honesty called into question?

    You had NO PROBLEM pulling this crap on me 2-3 weeks ago.


    .

    Steve >>



    All this drama and lies you made up about me, because I said that I thought recalled your telling me in a pm or email you were on disability. Geez, Steve. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life?

    I don't tell lies on here, but evidentally I misunderstood your comments you have made pertaining to your disability/kidney problem. A simple misunderstanding that you continue to carry a grudge over.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Anyone that gets anything authenticated by those 3 needs to have their head examined.

    Who are they?


    A notch above STTM?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Here are 3 balls signed that were sent into psa for authentication...

    This is what they looked like before....

    So go ahead and tell me if;

    1) they were all real

    2) none were real

    3) some were real and which ones


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  • << <i>Anyone that gets anything authenticated by those 3 needs to have their head examined.

    Who are they?


    A notch above STTM?


    Steve >>



    Stay classless, Steve. The people on here who have tested me know I know my business, and I can live with that. Any time you want to take me up on it, let's go. You wanna place money on it, we can go that route, too. Every time I offer the challenge, the skeptics/haters like you never take me up on it.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    Steve Sipe
    Manager of Autogragh Authentication
    Bob Gryder: Modern Autograph Expert and Authenticator

    Experience: 24 years

    No one in the modern hobby era has collected, witnessed, or authenticated more signatures of modern or vintage athletes than Steve. His career started in 1986 working for Reggie Jackson and two major league baseball rookies named Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire. Steve was in charge of managing the signings for Jose, Mark and Reggie as their popularity grew during the late 80’s and early 90’s. In 1992 Steve joined Upper Deck Authenticated as the Director of Athlete Relations where it was his job to witness all of the signings of the worlds most famous athletes including Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Ken Griffey Jr., Joe Montana, Mickey Mantle, Dan Marino, and Ted Williams just to name a few.(see photos) Over his 9 years at Upper Deck Steve was responsible for the collection of all of the companies autographs and authenticating totaling well over 3 million autographs across all sports. Steve’s latest assignment is VP of Business Development at GAI overseeing the fastest growing part of the business which is autograph authentication and verification working with a team of experts around the country and at shows.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Bob Gryder
    Modern Autograph Expert and Authenticator
    Bob Gryder: Modern Autograph Expert and Authenticator

    Experience: 15 years

    Bob is the foremost modern autograph expert and authenticator in the industry.
    Bob has assembled the finest collection of modern exemplars in existence.
    His expertise is unmatched in an industry where information on modern autograph authentication is scarce.

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    Brandon Mysinger
    Senior NASCAR Authenticator
    Brandon Mysinger: Senior NASCAR Authenticator

    Experience: 20 years

    Brandon has obtained such an extensive Autograph collection Over the last 20 years by obtaining the drivers autographs in-person and working with various drivers and teams at many NASCAR tracks and special autograph events. His collected autographs range from drivers in the 1950's to current Super Star drivers and Rookies. Brandon has authored articles published in Autograph Collector magazine that focuses on signature studies and is currently writing a book regarding the NASCAR Autograph hobby and it's history.

    Brandon's extensive research and consulting work with other industry experts make his opinion the most sought after in the hobby when in comes to NASCAR signatures. Brandon is the ONLY recognized NASCAR Autograph expert in the United States of America and is a member of Global Authentication's Authentication Team. Brandon also works VERY close with ebay's fraud division on a daily basis. With Brandon's help, HUNDREDS of NASCAR forgeries have been removed from the marketplace each year.

    Brandon's goal in the hobby is to simply help educate the buyers and to remove as many forgeries as possible within the marketplace. Brandon continuously render's his opinion for to ANY customer who seeks his assistance he enjoy's the personal contact with customers which allows him to ensure that the customer has a clear understanding of the item in question. Brandon has time and again shown that authentication should be less about making money and more about educating buyers in hopes that they will not be a victim of a forgery.

    Brandon's current opinion is that NASCAR autograph forgeries are on the rise faster than ANY other section of the hobby. This is mirrored by NASCAR's international growth and continuous gaining of popularity. The huge DEMAND of NASCAR driver's autographs can not meet up with the supply. Though it may be that EVERY NASCAR driver signs HUNDREDS of autographs a week during the race season, the supply can not be met in the market due to the high number of COLLECTOR'S who keep the autographs out of the commercial system.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Stan you did not say you thought! You said you were 10000 % positive.

    Not once but probably 10 times!

    You went so far as to say you knew what i said then and I was changing my story.


    Don't freaking minimize it. I went back and forth with you for a few hours that day!

    I even said "is it possible that you thought I said this? And you claimed then you knew it as fact!

    When i said Ok Stan prove it, as usual the mouse that you are couldn't! Claimed you deleted the PM's


    Or do you also forget calling me out and claiming you are at all the big shows in the midwest?


    I suggest you re think the things you say and do with people here.


    Steve



    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I don't need to take you up on anything you already failed that test.


    Steve
    Good for you.

  • certainly not the mantle


    >>>>>>>>>>Here are 3 balls signed that were sent into psa for authentication...

    This is what they looked like before....

    So go ahead and tell me if;

    1) they were all real

    2) none were real

    3) some were real and which ones

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    So Tampa basically with the credentials these guys have they know exactly what they are doing.


    I must be missing something.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    just copied and pasted from their website.

    i think they do a crappy job
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The people on here who have tested me know I know my business, and I can live with that.




    I tested you and you failed miserably.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>The people on here who have tested me know I know my business, and I can live with that.




    I tested you and you failed miserably.


    Steve >>



    Ok, whatever, Steve. Continue to lie. I know the truth that I never gave you any opinions on autographs, so continue to play your game, but I am moving on. Grudges will end up getting the best of you, so let it eat you up if you will. I can't change your bitterness, but I can control mine.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I'm not bitter at all.

    To recap:

    2 years ago I emailed you 3 bogus autos and asked your opinion.

    You claimed all three were good.

    I then said all 3 were known to be bad and you tried to argue it.

    Then when you realized they were bad you tried to spin your way out of it.

    I wish I saved those emails but i don't even have that computer any longer.


    Well I'm off to bed

    That is after I cash the disability check that STTM claims I get.


    Steve


    edited

    Good for you.


  • << <i>I'm not bitter at all.

    To recap:

    2 years ago I emailed you 3 bogus autos and asked your opinion.

    You claimed all three were good.

    I then said all 2 were know to be bad and you tried to argue it.

    Then when you realized they were bad you tried to spin your way out of it.

    I wish I saved those emails but i don't even have that computer any longer.


    Well I'm off to bed, I have to work tomorrow.

    That is after I cash the disability check that STTM claims I get.


    Steve >>



    Ok, Steve. Hope you can sleep at night.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Stan.


    I'll sleep just fine....tonight.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • I left my house today about 4:45PM and this thread had about 4 replies. I was wondering why it had so many replies about 4 hours later.

    Only had to scroll down to about the 7th or 8th reply. When I saw Stantheman, I didn't even have to read any more to figure out the rest of this thread was a trainwreck. But I forgot, we are a tight knit clan that is out to get Stantheman.


  • << <i>I left my house today about 4:45PM and this thread had about 4 replies. I was wondering why it had so many replies about 4 hours later.

    Only had to scroll down to about the 7th or 8th thread. When I saw Stantheman, I didn't even have to read any more to figure out the rest of this thread was a trainwreck. But I forgot, we are a tight knit clan that is out to get Stantheman. >>



    Well, the bafoon has spoken. He comes the pile on....
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Hi Bill.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Hi Steve and fellow clanmemeber.



    << <i>He comes the pile on.... >>



    Typical STTM elementary school grammar.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Sigh
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>Hi Steve and fellow clanmemeber.



    << <i>He comes the pile on.... >>



    Typical STTM elementary school grammar. >>



    It's called watching a ball game while arguing with you clowns. Much more interested in seeing Pujols hit his second bomb of the game, than what you have to say.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    I think he meant 'buffoon'


    lol what is a bafoon?


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yeah he was awesome against the Mets last week.....


    Steve


    Good for you.


  • << <i>I think he meant 'buffoon'


    lol what is a bafoon?


    Steve >>



    No, I meant bafoon.
  • I like clowns.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    1. bafoon 4

    Fool, idiot, one who pretends to know something but does not.




    lol sorta like you Stan and autos!


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>Yeah he was awesome against the Mets last week.....


    Steve >>



    Well, baseball is a marathon, not a sprint. JFYI, Pujols is hitting .332, 30 homeruns, and 77 rbi's before July 1st. Pretty amazing.. image
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    yeah well the PEDS are working.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    Bill, did you ever get those autos I sent?
  • DrJDrJ Posts: 2,213
    When it comes to Matle autos Stan the Man has been dead on in my experience.

    There were some memorable threads where Poppa J claimed fraudulant Mantle sigs looked real and Stan the Man stepped in and set the record straight. This did not go over well since one member was a considered a Mantle expert, but the truth is the truth.

    Just the facts!


    Steve and Stan need to take a step back and realize they do not get along and it is better off just to ignore each other. I will say this much, Stan has not been posting much lately, he posted a helpful opinion and Steve jumped on his reply. Obviously there is a history there, but it better to let each other be and act like adults.

    Just let it go already!
  • It's too bad that this board is full of idiots who can't appreciate just seeing a great player play out his career, without making the juvenile comments. If you like Pujols on here, you get bashed for mentioning it. You talk about something else, you get bashed for it. Pretty much if you don't fit into certain groups of friends on here, you will be mocked, bashed, trashed, or whatever. Childish high school games. This board will never be anything but the same morons trampling out any good hobby info with their nonsense, so I have decided that I will not be coming back. The good guys on here don't post enough, and it's the same group of smart mouths every time I come here, that never forget their grudges, and are all too eager to fire them back up, even when you try your best to stay on topic and be a contributing member. I won't miss the fools, but will miss the good guys I have made friends with over the last couple of years. That's it, I'm done with this board for good. I know that will make the bafoons happy, and but not as happy as it makes me to not have to deal with their juvenile nonsense every time I tried to come here and enjoy talking about the hobby. You can't enjoy trying to talk about the hobby, when you have to spend more time fighting with the people who have vendettas. That is why so many people are walking away/have walked away from this board.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    That is not true Justin, in my first reply I did not jump all over anyone.

    I simply stated that I thought they "think they have a clue like he did"


    I was under the impression at the time that they were at the least authenticating

    things that thought to be real. Only after he started his nonsense did I not back down.


    Was I hoping for him to react that way? You bet your arse.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>Bill, did you ever get those autos I sent? >>



    Yes I did. Thank you very much. Gave the football auto to my son. He thought it was like gold.


  • << <i>so I have decided that I will not be coming back >>



    I think I have heard that before somewhere.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Hopefully this time it's not another one of his 'lies'


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • I bought this about 5+ years ago off Naxcom. Asked the guy if he would lower the price and he gave me some "Have to sell because of divorce" story. Paid $40. I thought it had to be fake based on the price. Later on I needed money for something else, so I sold it.

    Look real? Kinda hope it's fake, so I wont miss it as much image

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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So how does it feel Stan? To have your honesty called into question?

    You had NO PROBLEM pulling this crap on me 2-3 weeks ago.


    .

    Steve >>



    All this drama and lies you made up about me, because I said that I thought recalled your telling me in a pm or email you were on disability. Geez, Steve. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life?

    I don't tell lies on here, but evidentally I misunderstood your comments you have made pertaining to your disability/kidney problem. A simple misunderstanding that you continue to carry a grudge over. >>

    With all due respect - and I'm not tryin to pile on - personally I think it's better TO take these kinds of things to the PM.

    But, to be honest Stan - something told to you in a PRIVATE message - should stay that way - private.

    mike
    Mike
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    but evidentally I misunderstood your comments you have made pertaining to your disability/kidney problem



    Too bad you did not say that then, all this would have been avoided. That day you were adamant.

    That day you accused me of changing my story. That day you acted like a real P---k. Just like I'm acting now.

    And frankly I don't care.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • Bill Ripken, good news, it's fake.


  • << <i>Bill Ripken, good news, it's fake. >>



    Cool. But now I feel bad for selling it....
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Bad news to the person who now owns it.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When it comes to Matle autos Stan the Man has been dead on in my experience.

    There were some memorable threads where Poppa J claimed fraudulant Mantle sigs looked real and Stan the Man stepped in and set the record straight. This did not go over well since one member was a considered a Mantle expert, but the truth is the truth.

    Just the facts!

    Just let it go already! >>



    Poppa J could always find employment with Coaches Corner!

    JMHO
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,300 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I bought this about 5+ years ago off Naxcom. Asked the guy if he would lower the price and he gave me some "Have to sell because of divorce" story. Paid $40. I thought it had to be fake based on the price. Later on I needed money for something else, so I sold it.

    Look real? Kinda hope it's fake, so I wont miss it as much image

    image >>



    Cool pic though of The Mick with a fungo bat - never saw that before...Mickey didn't need a fungo bat - LOL.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Cool. But now I feel bad for selling it...


    Yeah but at the time you had no idea it was bad.

    That is what matters.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    great eye there Steve! Do they even still use those things?

    last time I was at the stadium I did not notice the coach using one.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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