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  • PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil said:
    Yes they did do preview sets of the Leaf/Studio sets at the time (they put four of them in 1991 Donruss factory sets) and you have to figure the only other day to get them is if you are a hobby shop owner so in a way that would make them even harder to come by, especially at that time right?

    I decided to pick up the cards I was missing for the 1992 Gold Leaf Previews. No idea why. As tough as they are, I saw Kruk sold a complete set for $15 on Ebay. Seems a little nuts to me

    Promethius881969@yahoo.com
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Because they are a beautiful hard to get set and it gives you a sense of pride being able to add it to your collection, that's why?

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭

    I like them as well. I have about half, and still two away from completing the base set.

    Billy Kingsley ANA R-3146356 Cardboard History // Numismatic History
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Resurrecting this thread as a lot of these sets are finally getting there just due. I searched for threads about 1994 Topps Black Gold since I found this recently:

    I saw your thread @jackstraw , did you ever complete it? This one will be going to PSA soon, only 6 graded with one 9 and no 10s!

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Did I ever get around to getting the 1994 Black Gold set or not...I should check...

    But yeah, 1994 was the first full year I started regularly buying packs (that was all I could afford at the time; I had to wait till got to college in 1999 before I could afford to collect sets and truly make a really serious collection)! That was a GREAT year for insertmania and so naturally one of my main projects is trying to get as many of the early/mid 90s baseball/football/basketball sets I can! Think of how much fun it is to own a master set...regular and all the insert sets! Well not counting the serial numbered ones...those are usually too hard/expensive to realistically get the whole set.

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice old thread. I collect many of these issues. My favorite is series 2 1992 leaf. I have many unopened boxes. usually pay around $15 or so for them. Kent, Thome, Griffey.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    Nice old thread. I collect many of these issues. My favorite is series 2 1992 leaf. I have many unopened boxes. usually pay around $15 or so for them. Kent, Thome, Griffey.

    Why only series 2? Personally I never understood why they bother with selling Series 1 only or Series 2 only sets (at least vintage 90s sets). I mean nobody only wants half a book or half a movie or half a car or...

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Estil

    I go after the black insert cards. Kent and thome are the key ones and Griffey isn't bad either. Frank Thomas might be in series 2 also. Series 1 has Pedro and Nolan. I do have a few of the series 1 boxes.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    Estil

    I go after the black insert cards. Kent and thome are the key ones and Griffey isn't bad either. Frank Thomas might be in series 2 also. Series 1 has Pedro and Nolan. I do have a few of the series 1 boxes.

    I can only imagine what it was like in those pre-Internet days trying to get a whole set of those one per pack inserts...shoot I remember seeing the Beckett prices for sets of one per carton inserts like 1993 Stadium Club First Day Issue and 1994 Collector's Choice Gold Signature that had prices listed for them (~$2000?). How in the world in those pre-Internet days were there actually enough of those sets in existence that Beckett could list a price for them? I mean, when was the last time you seen any sets like this on Ebay, let alone actually existing in the pre-Internet days?

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2024 9:41PM

    @Estil said:

    @olb31 said:
    Estil

    I go after the black insert cards. Kent and thome are the key ones and Griffey isn't bad either. Frank Thomas might be in series 2 also. Series 1 has Pedro and Nolan. I do have a few of the series 1 boxes.

    I can only imagine what it was like in those pre-Internet days trying to get a whole set of those one per pack inserts...shoot I remember seeing the Beckett prices for sets of one per carton inserts like 1993 Stadium Club First Day Issue and 1994 Collector's Choice Gold Signature that had prices listed for them (~$2000?). How in the world in those pre-Internet days were there actually enough of those sets in existence that Beckett could list a price for them? I mean, when was the last time you seen any sets like this on Ebay, let alone actually existing in the pre-Internet days?

    @Estil My only sports chase set was the 1994 upper deck football electric gold football set (at an insert rate of 1 per box). I did hundreds of card shows hunting them down pre-internet days… with help from fellow collectors searching their local shows.

    It’s a 330 card off-the-beaten-path set, that people told me I would never complete. It took about 10 years, and the last 6 cards finally showed up on eBay…(324 non-internet cards!) but I’m pretty sure it’s a good example of how hard it was to do!!!

    Now…. Should I go after a PSA graded Gem Mint 10 1994 Upper Deck Electric Gold Football set???? Lol

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back in 1994 Pinnacle issued their baseball set. Liked the look of the set
    and the Duffus cards along with the Artist Proofs, (AP).Decided that I was
    going to work on a Master Set. Duffas, AP, inserts and promos. Wound up
    with over 1000 extra Duffas cardsand 500+ extra of the AP's. Three years later I was down
    to 24 AP's I needed. Something called Ebay comes along and I'm on the hunt.
    Even got a bunch of warnings from Ebay because I was PM-ing or Emailing
    sellers. There was a guy on Ebay buying all of the AP's and 1993 refractors.
    He saw my list and sent 10 free of charge. I sent him a check and he returned
    it with the word VOID. A note was with the voided check, THEY ARE A GIFT.
    Past a way a few years ago. RIP. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.

  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil said:

    @olb31 said:
    Estil

    I go after the black insert cards. Kent and thome are the key ones and Griffey isn't bad either. Frank Thomas might be in series 2 also. Series 1 has Pedro and Nolan. I do have a few of the series 1 boxes.

    I can only imagine what it was like in those pre-Internet days trying to get a whole set of those one per pack inserts...shoot I remember seeing the Beckett prices for sets of one per carton inserts like 1993 Stadium Club First Day Issue and 1994 Collector's Choice Gold Signature that had prices listed for them (~$2000?). How in the world in those pre-Internet days were there actually enough of those sets in existence that Beckett could list a price for them? I mean, when was the last time you seen any sets like this on Ebay, let alone actually existing in the pre-Internet days?

    I used to like doing parallel sets. Some of the toughest that I did pre-internet were the 93-94 Stadium Club Basketball First Day Production series one set, 1996 Topps Finest Refractor football series 1 bronze, silver and gold and 94 Pinnacle Museum Collection baseball series one. I just recently sold most of those on eBay.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2024 10:37PM

    @Tibor said:
    Back in 1994 Pinnacle issued their baseball set. Liked the look of the set
    and the Duffus cards along with the Artist Proofs, (AP).Decided that I was
    going to work on a Master Set. Duffas, AP, inserts and promos. Wound up
    with over 1000 extra Duffas cardsand 500+ extra of the AP's. Three years later I was down
    to 24 AP's I needed. Something called Ebay comes along and I'm on the hunt.
    Even got a bunch of warnings from Ebay because I was PM-ing or Emailing
    sellers. There was a guy on Ebay buying all of the AP's and 1993 refractors.
    He saw my list and sent 10 free of charge. I sent him a check and he returned
    it with the word VOID. A note was with the voided check, THEY ARE A GIFT.
    Past a way a few years ago. RIP. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.

    I did in fact get a Museum Collection set (I might be missing a few, including the five send-ins) a few years ago! And that's Dufex...Doofus was Launchpad's sidekick on Ducktales! Kinda odd thought that the even more limited edition Artists Proofs just got a boring little gold stamp. Not nearly wort the extra expense when the Museum Collection looks way more interesting and cutting edge tech!

    And yes while you brought it up I want to thank everyone here who sent me freebies over the years to help me finish my sets and such! For someone like myself who was a mere mild mannered grocery cashier in the 2000 and had to be on SSDI/disability since 2011 I get so very little to splurge on (thank God I got those unclaimed property checks coming up to pay off that 1971 Topps starter set) so anything I can get to help in my quest is especially awesome! I can only hope I at least still got time (I'm 44) somewhat on my side. All my life my dream has been to do those early 70s and then 60s Topps sets if I ever do come into some good money somehow. I mean, I'm perfectly content in this nice safe sturdy apt (it's honestly the best/safest possible apt you can have in my area), so a big house wouldn't do me much good (I wouldn't know what to do with most of the rooms), I don't/can't drive so a shiny black Cadillac wouldn't do any good, I never was into fancy clothes, so that's out, and I like retro tech a lot more than current tech. So what's left for me to splurge on really besides my collecting journeys?

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2024 11:25PM

    @Tibor said:
    Back in 1994 Pinnacle issued their baseball set. Liked the look of the set
    and the Duffus cards along with the Artist Proofs, (AP).Decided that I was
    going to work on a Master Set. Duffas, AP, inserts and promos. Wound up
    with over 1000 extra Duffas cardsand 500+ extra of the AP's. Three years later I was down
    to 24 AP's I needed. Something called Ebay comes along and I'm on the hunt.
    Even got a bunch of warnings from Ebay because I was PM-ing or Emailing
    sellers. There was a guy on Ebay buying all of the AP's and 1993 refractors.
    He saw my list and sent 10 free of charge. I sent him a check and he returned
    it with the word VOID. A note was with the voided check, THEY ARE A GIFT.
    Past a way a few years ago. RIP. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.

    @Tibor Love that story!!!

    I had a similar experience at that time with my set…

    I was at a large regional Connecticut show and did every table and added 10 off of my checklist… I stopped at a large dealer table and inadvertently left the 10 cards on his table for less than a minute… he scooped them up, denied taking them, and threatened to call security if I didn’t leave his table!

    About 5 years later, a collector I dealt with was doing a regional Illinois show and had my list… he found (no lie) 10 cards at a dealer table. He bought them and sent them to me for free!!!

    I was AMAZED to see them all again, and he wouldn’t take a penny for them!!!

    But when I asked him who he got them from… he described the NY dealer and his wife to a tee… I guess that the $5.00 he got for those commons was worth it to the dealer, having lugged around my 10 cards that nobody else wanted for 5 years!!!!

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭

    @maddux69 said:
    Resurrecting this thread as a lot of these sets are finally getting there just due. I searched for threads about 1994 Topps Black Gold since I found this recently:

    I saw your thread @jackstraw , did you ever complete it? This one will be going to PSA soon, only 6 graded with one 9 and no 10s!

    That is a great card!! If you ever want to sell it let me know. Had 2 of the "Certified" ones at one time, many years ago but sold them and would love to replace it. I have the set still and the A and AB certified cards but need that one to finish it now.

    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil and @threeofsix I would go down to Pidgeon Forge a couple of times
    a year and walk thru two of their flea markets. One card dealer had a 800 ct,
    box of the Duffas cards and 300ct. box of the Artist Proofs. I started going thru
    them to get the ones I needed. He said no single sales. The whole box or nothing.
    I asked him how much for both and he said $300. I paid him and left. I found
    about 30 Duffas cards I need and about 75 of the AP's. Had many smaller deals
    like this on Ebay. That's why I'm stuck with so many. Wish I could find them.
    At least I've got the master set in two albums.

  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭

    @tibor I’m don’t do many shows any more, and I’m 99% non-sports… but I wish you all the best… the fun is in the hunt!

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • jeffv96mastersjeffv96masters Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor = Phil I presume on the freebies?

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are correct. His heirs sold the refractors on Ebay. I've wondered about the disposition of the artist Proofs.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    @Estil and @threeofsix I would go down to Pidgeon Forge a couple of times
    a year and walk thru two of their flea markets. One card dealer had a 800 ct,
    box of the Duffas cards and 300ct. box of the Artist Proofs. I started going thru
    them to get the ones I needed. He said no single sales.

    Could you get married sales? :D

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil I didn't ask. That joyful part of my life
    wouldn't come for another 20 years. <3<3

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    @Estil I didn't ask. That joyful part of my life
    wouldn't come for another 20 years. <3<3

    And sadly it's already been a little over three years since that part of my life ended :( She was quite supportive and knew how much that dream set (1971) meant to me so I'm glad I was finally able to get a great starter set a few days ago. I'm kinda dedicating that project and 1972 to her kinda :)

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil I am sorry for your loss.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    @Estil I am sorry for your loss.

    Thanks; I just can't believe it's been that long ago and though I'm not at all happy about having to put so much on Paypal Buyer Credit, I am happy that I can finally start on this project that she too knew how much it meant to me and in a way, it helped with the majority of what may be the hard part (getting the raw/in binder part of the set in the best condition I can reasonably find)

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, still love inserts. My Epson is better than my camera also :) Some favorites:







  • Kepper19Kepper19 Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    I recently went thru my endless 5k monster boxes of star cards, and to a lesser extent commons, and pulled out all of my inserts/subsets/parallels....ended up filling almost six 5k count boxes...next task is to go thru and figure out which ones I want to grade....currently looking for basketball and hockey inserts that I can submit under the August special -- if there are any specific players or cards anybody may be interested, give me a holler...I will never get around to either grading these or putting them on Ebay, so I need to find other avenues to sell/trade a bunch of these

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Recently ripped a couple of boxes of 1992 Leaf and got a Frank Thomas and Jim Thome Gold parallel cards, these are really nice looking cards with the black borders and gold printing.
    Anyone familiar with these? They seem pretty hard to find in mint condition.
    Was surprised to see sale price on Jeff Kent rookie was higher on the base card than the "gold"!?!? 47 base cards graded PSA 10, only 4 of the "gold".

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Out of the same box!

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
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