Bought a card for $400 last week. Paid with paypal (cash in account) Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card Seller NARU Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal?
Bought a card for $400 last week. Paid with paypal (cash in account) Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card Seller NARU Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal? >>
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If there was no sig/con, file an INR claim. Near instant refund.
If there was sig/con, you may have to file a SNAD. Call PP and get a supervisor's guidance.
To prevail in the SNAD, PP will ask you to file a USPS fraud-claim and a report with your local police. I would also file with the cops in the criminal's hometown.
www.usacops.com
If you lose the claim at PP - unlikely - file a complaint against PP at the San Jose BBB. PP routinely issues "courtesy refunds" to settle such claims.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
Bought a card for $400 last week. Paid with paypal (cash in account) Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card Seller NARU Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal? >>
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If there was no sig/con, file an INR claim. Near instant refund.
If there was sig/con, you may have to file a SNAD. Call PP and get a supervisor's guidance.
To prevail in the SNAD, PP will ask you to file a USPS fraud-claim and a report with your local police. I would also file with the cops in the criminal's hometown.
www.usacops.com
If you lose the claim at PP - unlikely - file a complaint against PP at the San Jose BBB. PP routinely issues "courtesy refunds" to settle such claims. >>
It's my father in law, and he already filed the SNAD. Hard to say he didn't receive it now. He was so upset between the empty envelelope and the NARU that he panicked.
There's no record at all now on ebay of the auction. It was pulled by ebay, not sure why.
If he wins a paypal claim and the seller is long gone, does he still get $ back?
I filed a claim for an item I paid for but did not recieve directly with the post office when this happened to me in 2001. The seller had the choice of sending me the item I had "won" in the auction or face interstate fraud charges with the postal inspector. The cards showed up over 6 months later with an appology note for the deliquent shipping. A bit different, but shows the power of the FEDs.
The other instance of a bad ebay deal was when I was the buyer of 2 cards in different auctions from the same seller and the description was very misleading about the cards' condition. I had to eat the cost of shipping them back, but I got the cost plus the original shipping fees rebated. It as frustrating, took forever, and cost me $$ to correct the wrong doing of someone else. Overall a lousy experience.
Allen, your situation is different and I hope it works out in your favor.
I saw an episode of Forensic Files a few months ago that reminded me of this. A guy got scammed by an ebay seller with a CB radio (or something like that) that was a piece of crap and the buyer was out of his money. After the guy laughing at him on the phone he ended up sending the seller a pipe bomb and blowing him up. Turned out the seller was 17 or 18. I certainly dont agree with that action, but when you buy and sell you really dont know who you are dealing with.... You scam the wrong guy and you just never know what karma may befall you.
<< <i>...I saw an episode of Forensic Files.... You scam the wrong guy and you just never know what karma may befall you... >>
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The punk got what he deserved. He was a serial criminal and the cops knew it but failed to act.
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Forensic Files: Over & Out ANSWER KEY
1. In what state did the crime take place? Vermont
2. What happened to Chris? He was killed in a bomb explosion.
3. What type of device was it? Pipe bomb
4. Why did police investigate customers of his CB Shack? They thought that some of them were upset over receiving cheaper models of CBs and may have wanted to do him harm.
5. Where was the package shipped? Mansfield, OH
6. What was unique about the bomb that killed Chris? The bomb had hex nuts on it.
7. What other evidence did investigator have from the bomb and package? They had Styrofoam packing peanuts, a battery, and the gunpowder used to make it explode.
8. How did the informant help the case? He gave the police the name of Chris Dean, who was a trucker who had purchased a CB radio from Chris.
9. What did the find in Dean’s basement? They found hex nuts that were the same as those in the bomb.
10. What did they find in the rest of Dean’s house and garage? They found wires like those used to make the bomb as well as the same type of pipe and the same type of Styrofoam peanuts. They also found a funnel with powder on it.
11. What instrument was used to examine the funnel? Scanning electron microscope
12. What did they determine from the examination? The powder on the funnel matched the powder in the bomb.
13. Why wasn’t the evidence they had collected enough to charge Dean with the crime? All the items were available at many stores in the country and could not be tied specifically to Dean.
14. Why was the 9-volt battery important? Batteries with the same lot number as the one on the bomb were found in Dean’s home.
15. What two things were found on Dean’s computer? Investigators discovered that he had downloaded plans to make a bomb and found the label that was on the package delivered to Chris’ home.
16. What other evidence did investigators have? Dean’s trucking logs showed that he was in Mansfield, Ohio at the time the package was shipped. A witness at the UPS store identified him as the person who shipped the package and his handwriting was matched to the writing on the receipt.
17. How did the case end? Dean pleaded guilty to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Copyright T. Trimpe 2008
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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Bought a card for $400 last week.
Paid with paypal (cash in account)
Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card
Seller NARU
Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal?
<< <i>Dumb paypal question.
Bought a card for $400 last week.
Paid with paypal (cash in account)
Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card
Seller NARU
Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal? >>
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If there was no sig/con, file an INR claim. Near instant refund.
If there was sig/con, you may have to file a SNAD. Call PP and
get a supervisor's guidance.
To prevail in the SNAD, PP will ask you to file a USPS fraud-claim
and a report with your local police. I would also file with the cops
in the criminal's hometown.
www.usacops.com
If you lose the claim at PP - unlikely - file a complaint against PP
at the San Jose BBB. PP routinely issues "courtesy refunds" to
settle such claims.
<< <i>
<< <i>Dumb paypal question.
Bought a card for $400 last week.
Paid with paypal (cash in account)
Received bubble mailer yesterday with piece of psa cardboard inside, no card
Seller NARU
Auction removed already by ebay
What's my chances of getting a refund with paypal? >>
//////////////////////////////////
If there was no sig/con, file an INR claim. Near instant refund.
If there was sig/con, you may have to file a SNAD. Call PP and
get a supervisor's guidance.
To prevail in the SNAD, PP will ask you to file a USPS fraud-claim
and a report with your local police. I would also file with the cops
in the criminal's hometown.
www.usacops.com
If you lose the claim at PP - unlikely - file a complaint against PP
at the San Jose BBB. PP routinely issues "courtesy refunds" to
settle such claims. >>
It's my father in law, and he already filed the SNAD. Hard to say he didn't receive it now. He was so upset between the empty envelelope and the NARU that he panicked.
There's no record at all now on ebay of the auction. It was pulled by ebay, not sure why.
If he wins a paypal claim and the seller is long gone, does he still get $ back?
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Yes.
But, it is harder to win a SNAD in the first phase if PP has closed the
seller's empty account.
The appeals process is very winnable; especially if PP knows the seller
is a NARUd crook and may have other victims.
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To date, I have no record of failed San Jose BBB complaints. That does
not mean that none have failed; only that I have no reports of same.
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If you PM me the seller's ID, I may be able to pull up some other victims.
The platform usually deletes all recent sales after a NARU, but not always.
Your father should note the presence of addiitional victims to PP, if they exist.
The other instance of a bad ebay deal was when I was the buyer of 2 cards in different auctions from the same seller and the description was very misleading about the cards' condition. I had to eat the cost of shipping them back, but I got the cost plus the original shipping fees rebated. It as frustrating, took forever, and cost me $$ to correct the wrong doing of someone else. Overall a lousy experience.
Allen, your situation is different and I hope it works out in your favor.
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Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
I'd lilke to block them.
I think it's treatable
<< <i>...I saw an episode of Forensic Files.... You scam the wrong guy and you just never know what karma may befall you... >>
////////////////////////////////////
The punk got what he deserved. He was a serial criminal and the
cops knew it but failed to act.
.......
Forensic Files: Over & Out ANSWER KEY
1. In what state did the crime take place? Vermont
2. What happened to Chris? He was killed in a bomb explosion.
3. What type of device was it? Pipe bomb
4. Why did police investigate customers of his CB Shack? They thought that some of them were upset over
receiving cheaper models of CBs and may have wanted to do him harm.
5. Where was the package shipped? Mansfield, OH
6. What was unique about the bomb that killed Chris? The bomb had hex nuts on it.
7. What other evidence did investigator have from the bomb and package? They had Styrofoam packing
peanuts, a battery, and the gunpowder used to make it explode.
8. How did the informant help the case? He gave the police the name of Chris Dean, who was a trucker who
had purchased a CB radio from Chris.
9. What did the find in Dean’s basement? They found hex nuts that were the same as those in the bomb.
10. What did they find in the rest of Dean’s house and garage? They found wires like those used to make the
bomb as well as the same type of pipe and the same type of Styrofoam peanuts. They also found a funnel
with powder on it.
11. What instrument was used to examine the funnel? Scanning electron microscope
12. What did they determine from the examination? The powder on the funnel matched the powder in the
bomb.
13. Why wasn’t the evidence they had collected enough to charge Dean with the crime? All the items were
available at many stores in the country and could not be tied specifically to Dean.
14. Why was the 9-volt battery important? Batteries with the same lot number as the one on the bomb were
found in Dean’s home.
15. What two things were found on Dean’s computer? Investigators discovered that he had downloaded plans
to make a bomb and found the label that was on the package delivered to Chris’ home.
16. What other evidence did investigators have? Dean’s trucking logs showed that he was in Mansfield, Ohio at
the time the package was shipped. A witness at the UPS store identified him as the person who shipped the
package and his handwriting was matched to the writing on the receipt.
17. How did the case end? Dean pleaded guilty to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison without the
possibility of parole.
Copyright T. Trimpe 2008