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I think every user of the board should join PCGS Collector's Club.

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
At some level anyway..... platinum, gold or silver.

That way we can support our beloved coin message board !

Besides the benefits are very nice too!

For example the benefits range from silver:

Direct Submission Privileges
Free Quarterly Grading Specials.
One-Year subscription to the online PCGS Population ReportSM.
10% off PCGS supplies.

Too Platinum:

All of the benefits of Silver membership plus a voucher for eight (8) FREE submissions.
Valid for US and World Coins (Excluding Mint Errors, Special Issues and coins valued over $3,000).
All coins must be submitted at the same time.
Retail value of this package is $279.50.

Come on cheapskates, I mean fellow collectors, ......do yourself a favor and join the PCGS collectors club today.

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  • JZraritiesJZrarities Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭

    Joined.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I joined , but lost the bulk rate submission privleges. So I spent the money that I would have spent for grading coins in bulk, on a couple hundred shares of CLCT for just under $3.75 per share.

    We win some and we lose some, but we should stick with a winner.
    Oh, and Happy Valentine's Day.

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  • i agree. i have been for a few years now. 8 freebies plus 4 quarterly specials for $200 is well worth it with the convenience of submitting myself instead of through a dealer.
    my ebay items BST transactions/swaps/giveaways with: Tiny, raycyca,mrpaseo, Dollar2007,Whatafind, Boom, packers88, DBSTrader2, 19Lyds, Mar327, pontiacinf, ElmerFusterpuck.
  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    but board members should receive a discount.
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  • There are more than a few PCGS Authorized Dealers using the forums.

    Why in the world would they join the CC??
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    What's a collectors club?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Disagree. I only buy coins that are already slabbed and I never submit coins. I support PCGS every time I buy one of their products from a dealer.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    perhaps they would have more submissions if they did not charge a fee to join?
    LCoopie = Les
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I disagree. At this point I will only buy coins that are already slabbed. Costs are too high for people who only have a few coins to submit, or who usually use economy.
    All glory is fleeting.


  • << <i>What's a collectors club? >>



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  • I am led to believe that not everyone sends in coins to be graded so the fee would not be cost effective for them BUT I would not be opposed to a small fee to be able to log onto this forum. It would be well worth $10-25/year to continue to learn from everyone here.

    (go ahead and rip me a new one for suggesting it)


  • << <i>I am led to believe that not everyone sends in coins to be graded so the fee would not be cost effective for them BUT I would not be opposed to a small fee to be able to log onto this forum. >>

    As long as I can go back to free lurking, no problem. image
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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Bingo - I'm with RickO.
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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been a member for a few years.
    Trade $'s
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Disagree. I only buy coins that are already slabbed and I never submit coins. I support PCGS every time I buy one of their products from a dealer. >>



    bingo. every coin i own, all 2 ;-), are in PCGS slabs.
  • If bidask is willing to pay for everyone to join.......then count me in!!!
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭

    no way. Ill find someplace else to post if that's the case.
    I joined a few years ago, the costs were so prohibitive and process so inconvenient for someone of my collecting level (non-obsessive, not slab-slab-reslab-reslab game-player, non-dealer) that it makes way more sense to just submit to NGC under my ANA submission privledge.

    PCGS has no interest in cultivating the submissions of the run of the mill collector, who collects in moderation. of course, there's not alot of money in that sector these days anyways.


  • << <i>I believe both the OP and others have the right to decide for themselves. And NO right to suggest imposing cost on others. Individuals may spend their monies as they see fit.... there is an abominable amount of mandatory taxation as it is... keep your *&#@! hands out of my pockets. >>

    What he said.

    Lots of people here support the message board by providing useful and practical information at no charge, with no other goal than to be of help. Of course PCGS does make this board available, but they don't staff it with members willing to answer the questions that the general membership does for free. I think that should count for something.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    One stimulus package at a time, please.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    " I think every user of the board should join PCGS Collector's Club."

    I believe PCGS should provide me with a free membership for reading all the advertisements and the Kool-Aid posts like this one.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,915 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>" I think every user of the board should join PCGS Collector's Club."

    I believe PCGS should provide me with a free membership for reading all the advertisements and the Kool-Aid posts like this one. >>



    Great idea.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    I was a member before but I let it lapse; when I am ready to start submitting again I will rejoin
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ...........i'm with ricko!!!



    and they said ron doesn't post at the forum.image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that asking forum members to support our host is appropriate. The way they choose to support PCGS is up to the individual.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>perhaps they would have more submissions if they did not charge a fee to join? >>





    ................image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    Lots of people here support the message board by providing useful and practical information at no charge, with no other goal than to be of help. Of course PCGS does make this board available, but they don't staff it with members willing to answer the questions that the general membership does for free. I think that should count for something. >>




    ..................well said!!!!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Disagree. I only buy coins that are already slabbed and I never submit coins. I support PCGS every time I buy one of their products from a dealer. >>



    Same here.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • DeloreanDelorean Posts: 470 ✭✭✭
    I have to send my coins through a dealer, I'm just not good enough to grade my own coins... Also, everytime I buy a PCGS graded coin I'm supporting this forum.
    Chuck,

    Ever Onward
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    agreed

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • I see no need in spending $$ on a svc I've _never used !

    Being a COLLECTOR 1ST , the aspect of having all my coins "Entombed" doesn't appeal to me.
  • If there was a fee or requirment to join something that I do not need or would use then I would be out of here. I have never sent anything in to be graded and have no plans to any time soon. I use PCGS for my set's and that's how I support this board.


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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Ricko, but he was trumped by IGWT image

    HE>I

  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the OP has a stupid idea.

    Many people that use these boards do so because they have purchased one or more PCGS slabbed coins (therefore already supporting the board owner) so telling these people that they should also pony up some additional $$$ to join a club (even if they have no desire to send any coins in for grading) is nothing short of stupid!
  • I think being a "user" is just horrible .....!!...image
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Have joined several times – but not since I sent in the cat to be slabbed and they sent it back in a body bag – “Not Gradable.”

    (Someone did include a nice note about punching holes in the shipping box next time.)
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Have joined several times – but not since I sent in the cat to be slabbed and they sent it back in a body bag – “Not Gradable.”

    (Someone did include a nice note about punching holes in the shipping box next time.) >>



    If I'm gonna waste a post, it may as well be for a laugh image

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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭
    I joined 3 times now, and have to say there are some definite benefits and some drawbacks for the really casual collector who doesnt have the time to deal with submissions. The real benefit is that you save money on submissions. The other benefits are -- well its nice to get the hard copy of the price guide. This comes in really handy in a coin shop or at a show. you get the idea

    The rough cost per submission is about $15 with the platinum membership, but you have to add to that another $8 or so per coin (hidden costs? ) to cover all the shipping , insurance. After that you might want to think twice if you are sending in a coin that has a dubious heritage. Getting back half of your coins in body bags, and paying out over $20 for that is a bit humbling.

    If you have some raw coins that you were (in the back of you mind) thinking :

    ... hmmm wonder what these would grade at -- and if you know for certain:

    1- the coin is not "cleaned"
    2- the coin is not counterfeight
    3- the coin has not had altered surfaces
    4- you "might" (just "might") want to sell that coin someday.

    Its like insurance for your coin - if its a valuable asset. Because there is a market price, you can say exactly what it is (or was) worth.

    I think the collectors club is a pretty good deal. But its not as simple as it sounds.

    For example, you really need to know how those forms work (the online version is easier), and they are fairly picky about how the coins should be sent etc. Another gotcha is the return shipping, which of course you pay. And dont lose that little voucher ( which looks like a piece of printed magazine paper - and is fairly easy to lose track of

    That being said, I still wonder why people send in beat up coins that are fairly common, except to get it in one of those PCGS slabs.
    IMHO, that strategy - slabbing junk coins, will not get back the price of the grading service.

    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭
    Since 2004, I've joined 7 seven times at the Platinum level.

    In December, they were running a $159.95 special which I took advantage of twice!

    As for having folks join the Collectors Club just because they post here, its a good thought but Collectors Club Memberships do not pay for this forum.



    Submissions do!

    So if you want to help pay for the forums, submit more coins...............

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭
    I really don't believe it costs PCGS that much to run these forums. Unless they state otherwise I will assume they are making a profit with all the advertising they get.
  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭

    It's been a long time since I responded to this thread, but I find myself asking the same questions:

    • Why should I join the Collectors Club (for the 4th time)?, prices are way higher than they used to be"
    • What will the average cost per submission be?
    • Would it be easier and more cost effective to just submit coins through a dealer?
    • The current special on grading for Modern Coins worth it (submit 4 get one grading free)
    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2022 12:20PM

    %%**£€#+¥£€!$$$$$$!!!!!!!!’ This is killing me. I’m so tired of reading a thread to find out it’s 10 years old. My fault got it. 🤨

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It had me up to a point until I read the happy Valentine's Day post.
    LOL
    Wayne

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why did you need to resurrect this old post to make your points? The OP was making a point of users of this board being members vs your more general complaints about pricing, etc.

    Please be courteous when bringing old threads up again to ensure that what you are posting has direct relevance. You can always create your own post to advocate or discuss a topic.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    %%**£€#+¥£€!!!!!!!!!’ This is killing me. I’m so tired of reading a thread to find out it’s 10 years old. My fault got it. 🤨

    Buddy, this is the U.S. coins forum. If you want to swear here, please at least include some $.

    %$$($*!!

    Thanks edit done 😂

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Been a silver member for a few years. Yes, I have submitted a few ( very few ) coins over those few years. The Price Guide, as others have mentioned is my main benefit. Having the capability to submit on occasion also a benefit to me. I'll stay silver.
    As for paying to be a member of this forum, NO !!!!

  • HalfpenceHalfpence Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭

    I find it a strange suggestion that forum users ought to join the CC. PCGS does not host this forum as an altruistic gesture or for the love of coin collecting. It is a very shrewd and strategic marketing technique that keeps the hobby alive and elevates the visibility of PCGS. It also brings in advertising revenues. Believe me, this forum generates plenty of business. No need to act like this is a charity.

  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2022 2:35PM

    Sorry for "resurrecting" an old thread, @Catbert. Some people criticize creating new threads when the old one has the context of their question.

    I was trying to find out whether its still a reasonable deal, [ apparently NOT, from what I'm hearing. ] IMHO Maybe PCGS needs to lower their prices or try some sort of newcomer specials?

    I am still weighing the pros and cons of re-subscribing especially since they have their modern coin discount, which in my opinion is not enough to cover the extra costs of actually submitting them, vs the upside in long term valuation. It seems like the market is supporting the existing stock pretty well. So buying a not so rare graded modern commemorative rather than submitting a new one might be the best way to go for me, anyway.

    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers

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