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Is there a particular grade that "bugs" you, in general?

commoncents123commoncents123 Posts: 2,648 ✭
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AU53 bugs me for some reason. I simply cannot bring myself to love the grade.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU50 and MS60

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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    MS60-61. I get the point of the grade though. A beat up coin with no signes of wear. Just an ugly POS. AU58s look much better

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  • Kdog08Kdog08 Posts: 771
    MS61
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AU50 and MS60 >>



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  • commoncents123commoncents123 Posts: 2,648 ✭


    << <i>MS60-61. I get the point of the grade though. A beat up coin with no signes of wear. Just an ugly POS. AU58s look much better >>



    I agree on the 58's...my fav. grade
  • mumumumu Posts: 1,840
    60-61-62. Dont like em. I bought 1 62 recently becasue I think its better and I have a 62 with some toning I like. But other than that I stay away.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not bothered by MS60. Here are a couple that PCGS called MS60:


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  • commoncents123commoncents123 Posts: 2,648 ✭


    << <i>I'm not bothered by MS60. Here are a couple that PCGS called MS60: >>




    Nice..I wouldn't be bothered by those either ... although the 1830 seems to have some wear?
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would agree that MS 62 is a troublesome grade. It only seems like a viable grade when a 63 or 64 becomes cost prohibitive, but I never love the look of a 62 Morgan.
    MS60-61 is not even on my radar and I'd rather go AU58 than a low grade MS coin.

    AU53 doesn't bother me as much and I'm happy there are no other AU grades other than 50, 55 and 58.

    AU58 can be a great looking coin...
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS70----There is no such thing as a perfect coin. A few years ago this grade was never used since it was a theoretical grade.

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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    I avoid the whole AU range and most low MS.
    Id rather have MS64 or worn VF.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS graded this 1795 eagle AU-53, and I really have to agree with them. The coin has a lot of luster, and not much wear, but there are a lot of very small circulation marks. They don't amount to much, but together they leave me thinking, "This is better than an AU-50, but it's not really an AU-55. So AU-53 seems appropriate.

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    NGC graded this 1797 half dime AU-53. It's an old holder, and this case I might be included to call it AU-55. The flat eagle on the reverse is normal for the variety. Most coins of this variety could be MS-65, and the eagle would look just the same.

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-61. Always uglier than a high AU and never up to the quality of near Gem. All said, just too much of a compromise.
  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    PR69 when I'm keeping my fingers crossed for PR70
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
    53 was the first thing that came to mind when I read your thread title.

    Most of the 53's I see are a 55 or 58 with something wrong, maybe not enough to call it a 'problem coin' but still a detriment. A light scratch, a big bonk, a rim bump, a ding, a knock, a big hit on the lady's cheek, whatever.

    I've don't very often see a 53 I like, and when I do it is like an earlier poster said, a 50 with a little something special -- just a little more luster, a little more flash, a brilliant strike, nice freedom from marks or something. But it doesn't seem to happen that way very often.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    not a particular grade.. what bugs me is over grading and slabbing
    coins that are obviously not problem free.

    this is the problem with the hobby right now to me.

    i am not a big enough fool to fall for it.
  • tombrtombr Posts: 863 ✭✭
    VG10
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    So called MS-69, MS-70 and AU-50. None of these are realistic.
  • Mercury10cMercury10c Posts: 2,958
    No particular grade bugs me, but I hate it when dealers will grade coins
    as "about fine." So it's not fine, but it's not VG either.
  • BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭
    MS60-62

    Usually just don't look very good. I do some exceptions posted though.
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    AU50-55, MS60-62.

    Granted, many nice coins may be in holders of these grades, the numbers themselves I don't like. I can't explain why, but they just bother me.
  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,170 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't like 61 or 62, unless I can buy it for the price of 60.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Poor-1 bugs me, mostly because I can't find a capped bust half dime for my grading set in this grade!
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  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not bugged by any particular grade. What kind of bugs me is when a dealer gives a coin two grades. Like F/VF. You see this on ebay all the time. Well, which is it? It can't be both.
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭
    Au-53 bugs me
    except for this one
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I like the AU-58 and the MS-64, as well as select MS-63.

    The MS-60,61 & 62 are generally fugly and not worth the

    premium for MS. I also dislike most AU- 50s as well as AU- 53s

    and AU55s.
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    61BN
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, there are nice coins for every grade and dogs in every grade and many okay-dokey coins in between.
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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    MS-62
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭


    << <i> Is there a particular grade that "bugs" you, in general? >>


    ......I guess it would have to be a 70 grades. Many coins and I realy mean many coins don't deserve a 70 grade.These coins may look really nice but somewhere down the road how can the older coins be better than the newer ones. Take that old 70 grade and compare it to the new 70 grade and see if there is a difference.I'm sure the new coin will be better struck better than the old.
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
    : Is there a particular grade that "bugs" you, in general?commoncents123



    In general, it is the 3rd grade that bugs me.
    I didn't care for my teacher when I was in it, and got poor grades.
    Now the 4th grade, I liked and I did much better.

    Ray
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AU53 bugs me for some reason. I simply cannot bring myself to love the grade. >>



    I'll take a AU53 over a VF25 any day. It doesn't even matter what coin it is.image
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't care for MS60 & 61

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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    AU 53 for me also. I always wonder what is wrong that the coin did not receive AU 55. Hard for me to believe that the graders could not decide between AU 50 and AU 55, so they gave it the AU 53. AU 53 normally sells for little more than AU 50, well below AU 55 money.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with the others that (usually) prefer 58's to 61's or 62's.

    Sellers' grades don't bug me except when I don't agree with the grade they have assigned to the coin, which is fairly often, especially on raw coins.

    I also hate it when dealers assign split grades to most of their raw coins, in an obvious attempt to wrench extra money out of suckers' hands for undeserving coins!

    I'm also bugged by certain dealers who say things like "should be a XX" (the next grade higher) when hyping their slabbed coins!
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    This fascination over 69/70 grades on modern stuff.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58 can be a great looking coin...

    and the above with CAN BE is why AU58 bugs me.

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