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Advice about swapping silver bullion for morgan and peace dollars

If I had about 40 10oz. silver bars and wanted to trade them for the equivalent in morgan and peace dollars how many silver dollars should I expect? I am not looking for BU or even AU coins just readable dates. What would be the best way to structure the deal ASW to ASW, or spot price to spot price, Etc? Is this even feasible? Thanks for any help.

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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Don't.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pass.
  • JsayreJsayre Posts: 227 ✭✭
    May I ask what your reason not to do it is?
  • A morgan dollar has .77 ounces of silver content.

    Take your 400 ounces divide by .77 will net you around 520 morgans.

    Silver bars seem to fetch around 3 to 5 dollars over spot.

    Morgans seem to fetch around the same. Others may disagree but Morgans
    are selling for around 13 to 14 dollars at the present time. With a melt value of 8.69

    If it were my bars. I would trade 200 ounces for 270 morgans. Diversify some.

    It's more fun looking at a bunch of 100 year old coinage than a bunch of door stops..

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't like U.S. silver dollars but I love 10 ounce bars. image


  • Plus, if your in a financial bind. It would be easier unloading a certain amount
    of Morgans to relieve your needs. Than it would 10 ounces at a time.

    The premium on bars may drop in the near future. I remember early last year buying
    all I needed for .50 over spot.. They aren't making Morgans any longer...image

    Do what makes you happy. It will be a wash either way
  • JsayreJsayre Posts: 227 ✭✭
    This is exactly why I want to do this! I would rather have a bag of silver dollars than a box of silver blocks.


  • << <i>This is exactly why I want to do this! I would rather have a bag of silver dollars than a box of silver blocks. >>



    Just remember the ratio and you should do fine. I would try and get as close to UNC as I could find.

    Make an offer on our BST board. There are guys who would make the trade. Post the name or pics of the
    bars. If you have JM bars I would demand higher ratio for the Morgans. JM bars usually command a higher premium.

    Good luck to ya....
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,038 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>JM bars usually command a higher premium. >>

    So do many of the older style poured Engelhard bars.
  • JsayreJsayre Posts: 227 ✭✭
    I just have some measly National 10 oz. bars.
  • Try the BST first. DO NOT TAKE THEM TO A COIN SHOP..
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,085 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You'll lose a lot of your silver weight by converting bullion to silver dollars since Morgan and Peace dollars carry a significantly higher premium over their melt value than do the silver bars. Also, any dealer handling this transaction will need to make a profit on the deal.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    If you had name brand bars I wouldn't but the silver dollars do have some downside protection they don't ever seem to cost under $8 to %10 dollars each.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Keep some silver bullion and have some morgans. You'll be happy both ways.
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep some silver bullion and have some morgans. You'll be happy both ways. >>



    agree with the thought of some variety in the spice of silver.

    what are your plans?

    why not have some of both? if we begin to barter silver and gold for services, you would consider some morgans or whatever as "pocket change" more than your bars, but then again you might be able to get a better exchange rate then vs now for your silver bar to junk silver/silver dollar, i don't know, others would.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,085 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Plus, if your in a financial bind. It would be easier unloading a certain amount
    of Morgans to relieve your needs. Than it would 10 ounces at a time. >>



    I don't believe it. The 10 oz bars should be easier to sell if they are from a known refiner.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • << <i>This is exactly why I want to do this! I would rather have a bag of silver dollars than a box of silver blocks. >>


    I couldn't have said it better image That's my goal also.. 1,000 XF-AU bag of Morgans all dated 1899 or earlier.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a few hundred AU+/- Peace dollars that have not been dipped. These were purchased for as little as $1 over bullion, but generally carried a $2-$3 premium to bullion.
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I too would like to trade Silver maples leaves for silver dollar spot for spot
    but I don't think they'll be many takers
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,071 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I too would like to trade Silver maples leaves for silver dollar spot for spot
    but I don't think they'll be many takers >>



    Agreed. Maybe coin for coin, but only an idiot would trade spot for spot.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not trade them for something where you get more silver back
    than you started with and might increase in the future. There's lots
    of great stuff that trades at a discount to silver or little premium.

    You can even get nice XF+ mercs at a discount and end up with more
    silver.

    Eventually the mercs will have a premium and the bars a discount.
    Then you can trade back.

    This might be a very long term plan though.
    Tempus fugit.
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