The NFL should be ashamed!!!

mickeymantle24

Those were the most Pathetic refferring I have ever seen in my life! It is not suppose to be a soccer match!

SDSportsFan

Come on now, don't start sounding like a Patriot fan!

The calls on that final drive were absolutely legitimate.

Peyton played a good game, but the Charger defense just played their hearts out (well except for that one quick pass to Reggie Wayne)

Steve

ripkenintheminors

The best moment of the game for me was a series of offensive holding calls against Indy. On the first play from scrimmage for SD Freeney was drug around by his facemask.

ledsters

All legitimate calls. Don't worry, there's always next year Colts fan

mickeymantle24

It was ridiculias the calls made on the field against the Colts, The refs did not can nothing against yall. I bet they had money on that game and should be fired right now!

bman90278

Well, both teams played with the same refs and the Colts had just as many chances to win the game as the Bolts did. Maybe Peyton will come back even better next season after a very early exit.

grote15

I didn't think the calls were out of line...The facemask call was especially blatant...I know Manning is your hero and all but face it man, Colts got beat..simple as that...

gosteelers

<< <i>It was ridiculias the calls made on the field against the Colts, The refs did not can nothing against yall. I bet they had money on that game and should be fired right now! >>



Is this English?

mickeymantle24

<< <i>The best moment of the game for me was a series of offensive holding calls against Indy. On the first play from scrimmage for SD Freeney was drug around by his facemask. >>



That was the only way they could stop Freeney and Mathis! They never got called for it. All we had to do was put our hand on them, and we would get a personal foul penalty!

Dear NFL:


Please fire every official that officiated that game!

grote15

< It was ridiculias the calls made on the field against the Colts, The refs did not can nothing against yall. I bet they had money on that game and should be fired right now! >>



Is this English?

LOL, no, just the excited utterings of a devestated Manning fan, who realizes that his 9-game winning streak just meant SQUAT...

grote15

Dear NFL:


Please fire every official that officiated that game!

Dear NFL,

Kindly disregard the ridiculous allegations from a fan whose team just got beat...

bman90278

I feel and understand your frustration, but all of the Colts penalties looked very obvious. Did the ref grab the face mask and turn the Chargers helmet...Did the ref cause the Colts defensive player to grab the Chargers player's shoulder pads and pull him out of the play.

The bottom line is the Colts had lots of chances as the Chargers did and the Colts lost.

grote15

I feel and understand your frustration, but all of the Colts penalties looked very obvious. Did the ref grab the face mask and turn the Chargers helmet...Did the ref cause the Colts defensive player to grab the Chargers player's shoulder pads and pull him out of the play.

The bottom line is the Colts had lots of chances as the Chargers did and the Colts lost.

Somehow I suspect logic ill not be very effective here...

mickeymantle24

The bottum line is that we got called for penalties that the Chargers got by with the whole game!

grote15

bman90278

Even Tony Dungy said to his team to expect lots of flags. Yes there could have been some penalties early in the game that maybe went the Chargers way, but I can't think of any, but the final penalties had to be called....A defensive player grabbing a shoulder pad as he's rushing causing the blocker to be out of the play and a serious face masking penalty. Those penalties will be called by any crew.

mickeymantle24

Let the guys play alittle gosh! Each team had played a hard game of football, and then all of a sudden just thowing a flag on every play!

brianwintersfan

<< <i>Those were the most Pathetic refferring I have ever seen in my life! It is not suppose to be a soccer match! >>



I Laugh At You Sir!

ripkenintheminors

Tony knew that a lot of calls were going to be made. After the PI on Jammer early in the game did the Chargers have more than 2 flags the rest of the way?

grote15

Manning still stuck on only one Super Bowl, same as Favre...

mickeymantle24

I will be laughing when you get that same crew to officiate your favorite teams game!

mickeymantle24

<< <i>Manning still stuck on only one Super Bowl, same as Favre... >>



Yeah, and only 7 years younger

VitoCo1972

Mantle, sorry man, I feel your pain - heck, my Pats didn't even get in - but all of the officiating was legit, sir. The Colts got by with Manning, duct tape and a wing and a prayer all year. That usually doesn't cut it in the playoffs. I give San Diego a darn good chance no matter if they're at TENN or PITT.

mickeymantle24

<< <i>Mantle, sorry man, I feel your pain - heck, my Pats didn't even get in - but all of the officiating was legit, sir. The Colts got by with Manning, duct tape and a wing and a prayer all year. That usually doesn't cut it in the playoffs. I give San Diego a darn good chance no matter if they're at TENN or PITT. >>



I still believe they should of let the teams go out and play. Rivers should of been called for intentional grounding the whole night. That never happened. But if one Colt put his hands on a Chargers the ref were bound in determined to throw the flag.

bman90278

<< <i><< Manning still stuck on only one Super Bowl, same as Favre... >>



Yeah, and only 7 years younge >>

You are right and we all know we haven't seen the last of Peyton. Hang in there, I know how it is when you come so close and don't make it. Look at me, I'm a Dodgers fan, Lakers fan, and a UCLA fan.

grote15

I still believe they should of let the teams go out and play. Rivers should of been called for intentional grounding the whole night. That never happened. But if one Colt put his hands on a Chargers the ref were bound in determined to throw the flag.


Does grabbing a wrenching a facemask fall under your definition of letting the teams "go out and play?" Every penalty that was called on that last drive was justifiable...you're sounding worse than Stalin after a Bucs loss..

ripkenintheminors

As much as the loss frustrates me, it came down to something we knew all along: The Colts could not run the ball this year. Fun to think about what could've been if the Colts had a semi-decent rushing game.

rbdjr1

Actually, I blame the refs;


... for using a "two-tailed" coin.

rd

detroitfan2

What the NFL should really be ashamed of is the way the referee in the Cardinals / Falcons game goosed the Cardinals defensive lineman as he celebrated the safety.

Oh, and by the way, I think the NFL does need to revisit the intentional grounding rule, because there were way too many times today when Rivers got rid of the ball clearly to avoid the sack (but he was within the rules, and thus never got called).

MPeter

.........it's "should have" not "should of"..........please get that right!!

Hoopster

Grote,

You beat me too it. This was the same guy harping on Favre's playoff record or something, LOL.

DaBeef

Horrible way to end an NFL playoff game. The facemask call was a joke. The pass int was legit though.

grote15

Horrible way to end an NFL playoff game. The facemask call was a joke. The pass int was legit though.

Are you kidding me or just misplaced your glasses?? The facemask was clear as day and right in front of the official...any crew in the NFL would have called that penalty..now if it were last season it may have gone down as an 5-yarder, but with the rule change, that was not an option.

stevek

That one holding call against the corner towards the end of the game was a cheap call in my opinion. The facemask penalty though was well deserved and obvious - the refs are never gonna look the other way on a facemask penalty because of serious injury possibility there.

bigreddog

Season MVP is meaningless and nothing more than a Popularity contest.

Manning has more endorsment and TV deals so he wins.

He is starting to run a close second to Brett Favre as the Most over rated.

hobart4281

<< <i>Season MVP is meaningless and nothing more than a Popularity contest.


Manning has more endorsment and TV deals so he wins.

He is starting to run a close second to Brett Favre as the Most over rated. >>



bigredgog,

Your earlier posts earlier this year promoting Roger Stauabach as the greatest QB of all time were compelling and, I if I may say, entirely accurate but this statement is not even close. Given that many members of this forum tend to favor Super Bowl victories as it #1 criteria for greatness, the moniker of "Second Most Over Rated QB of All-Time"would fall to Dan Marino.

Heck, based on the previous statement, Marino is the #1 overrated QB of all-time with Favre being a distant second/third whatever.....Manning may or may not be the greatest of all time but he is on the short list. There is no way the adjective "overrated" can be used when describing his play.

ziggy29

Sour grapes make lousy whine.

I had no real rooting interest one way or the other, and I thought all those calls in the final drive were legit. The thing about the facemask is that had there still been a 5-yard version, that may have been called instead of the 15 and automatic first down... but with that not an option this was too blatant to be a non-call.

Has a punter ever had a better game overall in NFL history? Scifres was ridiculous.

ziggy29

<< <i>That one holding call against the corner towards the end of the game was a cheap call in my opinion. >>

It wasn't flagrant but it was holding. I thought a PI call for face-guarding on that play might have been more blatant than the holding.

sayheykid54

Yeah, and I suppose the blatant face mask infraction never happened. I thought the game was called consistently for both teams. Indy needs to learn how to be a little smarter and more composed at the end of games.

I had a feeling San Diego would beat Indy.

bman90278

FanOf390

Heck, why all this jabber about the referees??? San Diego completely outplayed Indy -- period.

BTW, I watched the game strictly for entertainment -- I had no betting interest in that game.

bman90278

<< <i> Heck, why all this jabber about the referees??? San Diego completely outplayed Indy -- period.

BTW, I watched the game strictly for entertainment -- I had no betting interest in that game. >>



Very true. The score could have been worse.

SD's defense was stout and their offense did what it needed to win.

The SD defense had Manning out of the pocket many times during the game and he just plain sucks when he's running. The defense also had the Colts offense confused throughout the first half and did a very good job in the second half even with the Colts adjustments.

S.D. was about to score another TD when they fumbled the ball in the endzone and the Colts recovered and got a touchback.

S.D. was about to score again when Rivers made a terrible pass for an interception in the endzone.

Peyton Manning caught the Chargers defense off guard when their defense was making a substitution and scored an easy touchdown. That's all the Colts were able to do in the second half. If that play didn't happen, the Colts go blank in the second half.

Lastly, I remember a few plays in the first half when the Chargers receivers were being held and there were no flags. I didn't count how many times it happened, but the refs called a consistent game and they had to make those late calls in the game.

Davemri

I am as big a colts fan of anyone and I highly disagree with the OP. The Colts deserved every one of the penatlities and, in no way, deserved to win this game. They got outplayed and ended up being a much closer game than it should have been.

The Colts ended up beating themselves with the penalties in OT.

Absolutely no way the NFL should be ashamed.................Sorry


Dave

Ahmanfan

<< <i>Season MVP is meaningless and nothing more than a Popularity contest.

Manning has more endorsment and TV deals so he wins.

He is starting to run a close second to Brett Favre as the Most over rated. >>



This is absolutely ridiculous. Try watching him play?
John

bigreddog

All modern day QB's are overrated. Hell even the back ups can throw for 3,000 yrds.

Behind Brady , Manning is probably the Best in the league as far as numbers go(Which are meaningless)

Playoffs are where a QB makes the real statement. Mannings "Statement" is not that loud.

Manning has alot of TV commercials and such and is very popular. Top 10 all-Time? Not in my book.

Joe Montana is the only Modern day era QB I put on that list.


I also agree with the other poster here that Dan Marino is the ALL-Time most over-rated QB without a title win.

As for the Most over rated with a title?

Brett Favre has that honor in my book. Followed closely by John Elway and with Manning's pathetic Playoff record he is moving right up the list. Big numbers and records in the regular season, coupled with multiple playoff failures is a sure way to get on the Overrated list in my opinon. Im not so sure he was really the MVP of the SB the Colts did win. His numbers were not that much better than Rex Grossman.

John

bigreddog

Another thing. Brother Eli Pulled off one of the Greatest upsets in SB History with one of the guttsist performances you
will ever see by a QB. HE WAS THE MVP of that game. He is also quite possibly in line to win again. Why doesn't anybody want to put him on the pedestal as the Greatest? Guess he just doesn't have as many high profile endorsments and TV commercials.

Now I know you all are going to try and throw all those REGULAR season passing numbers in my face, but as I stated before, They are really meaningless in the modern era.

Ive said this before, since the rule changes that tied the hands of the defense and gave todays modern QB such a hugh advantage over the defense those kind of numbers are to be expected. Again, an average QB today can throw for 3,000 yards. Especially when you throw 40-50 times a game.

Morgoth

The facemask was not a penalty, just placing your hand on the mask is not a penalty, He did not grab or twist. The defensive holding penalty was also not a penalty as his hand got stuck in his shoulder pads. The defensive holding on the TD was also pretty ticky tack. I agree the refs should have let the players decide the game not them.

Morgoth

On the fumble and INT by SD you act as if the Colts D did nothing on those plays. I did not see the Colts being outplayed the whole game. Heck the D sacked rivers and all they had to do was make a 3rd and 2 to ice the game.

aro13

Had Manning completed that 3rd and 2 on the last Colts' drive the game would have been over and the refs would have had nothing to do with the outcome.

Bigreddog - Based on your criteria Bradshaw is vastly superior to Staubach. They both played in the same era - Bradshaw has more rings. Bradshaw had a much tougher conference and road to the Super Bowl. Head to head in the Super Bowl Bradshaw was much better. Also, it is not like the Cowboys defense was soft, the Cowboys d was almost as highly regarded as the Steelers.

Head to Head in Super Bowls Bradshaw versus Staubach

Bradshaw 26 for 49 527 yards 6 touchdowns and 1 interception
Staubach 32 for 54 432 yards 5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions

In the two games the Steelers ran for 215 yards and the Cowboys ran for 262 yards.
The Cowboys had the superior running game but they lost the battle of the Quarterbacks.

grote15

The facemask may not have been of the personal foul variety if they were still calling 5 yd facemask penalties, but his hand was CLEARLY inside the facemask of Sproles and ANY officiating crew would have thrown a flag in that case.

grote15

The defensive holding penalty was also not a penalty as his hand got stuck in his shoulder pads.

I'll bet many DBs have used the same excuse many times..."but ref my hand got stuck in the shoulder pads, I didn't mean to hold him..."