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POLL: Would you buy a hand poured silver bar from someone you didnt know personally?

Im talking hand made, hand poured stamped as .999 fine silver. Would you buy these or pass in favor of brand name bars?

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  • I recently had a chance to purchase two of these 5 oz home poured bars. I passed and the seller had them tested afterwards. turned out to be 90%
    Its all relative


  • << <i>I recently had a chance to purchase to of these 5 oz home poured bars. I passed and the seller had them tested afterwards. turned out to be 90% >>




    There were literally tons of 90% bars poured back in the late 60's and early 70's.

    All shapes and sizes.

    Came from illegally melted US coinage.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd pass.

    I pass on bars/rounds from the top dog mints that don't happen to list the metal type as well. For me it's got to have purity, weight, metal type & brand name.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i might if the source was respected... in the sense i knew who it was
    and what they were up to. the trick is i would pay little to no premium... and would want to know where the silver came from. if
    you used silver shot from apmex, it would make me feel better about it.

    better to buy a 1000 ounce bar, send it to silvertowne, and have
    them pound out what you want.. with them putting their name on it
    somewhere small... to get you rolling. you design the rest of the stamp.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only purchase what is saleable w/o any headaches or hassles.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Only purchase what is saleable w/o any headaches or hassles. "

    //////////////////////////////////

    Yup.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    are you makin' 'em?

    if they have a "panda assay"...i'd bite for spot

    yet i also voted no
  • Market research not going so well here Gecko, when are you gonna spill the beans on your plan?
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?


  • << <i>Market research not going so well here Gecko, when are you gonna spill the beans on your plan? >>




    The plan is moving full steam ahead. First bars should be for sale just after the new year. They will sell for a large premium above melt however, but will not be your typical 1, 5 or 10 ounce offerings. Im talking hand poured, hand stamped fractional "mini bars". Stay tuned!
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i quickly realized your plan makes a nice hobby but the profit potential is sorely lacking.


  • << <i>i quickly realized your plan makes a nice hobby but the profit potential is sorely lacking. >>




    I wonder what this guy thinks of your last statement?

    Silver sale

    He is selling hundreds of 1 gram silver "bars" for between $3 and as high as $7 each. Furthermore its simply barstock that he cuts. Nothing collectible nor desirable about it. My bars will be hand poured and stamped (highly collectible). I get my silver for less than 38 cents a gram currently at APMEX. Looks to be a pretty sweet return to me!
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hell, I'll buy some from ya image Make some oddball sizes, that'd be cool. 1/2gr, 1gr, 2gr, 2 1/2gr, 3gr, 4gr, 5gr, 7 1/2gr, 10gr, 15gr, 20gr, 25gr, 31.1gr, 50gr, 62.2gr, 100gr, 250gr, 500gr, 750gr, 1000gr. Would be cool if only labeled in grams too, no ounce or kilo markings.

    image
  • You need some sort of small cool gecko counterstamp - or something like the Omega Man symbol!
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?


  • << <i>Hell, I'll buy some from ya image Make some oddball sizes, that'd be cool. 1/2gr, 1gr, 2gr, 2 1/2gr, 3gr, 4gr, 5gr, 7 1/2gr, 10gr, 15gr, 20gr, 25gr, 31.1gr, 50gr, 62.2gr, 100gr, 250gr, 500gr, 750gr, 1000gr. Would be cool if only labeled in grams too, no ounce or kilo markings.

    image >>




    My 1st customer....until you see my prices!image I guess you guys are the wrong people to ask about this endeavor. None of you are willing to pay 3-5x melt for these bars, but plenty of people on ebay will!
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey man 3-5x melt for a 1/2 gram? Come on now...I can spare $3.15 for a cool silver oddity. image

    3.5x on that KiloMonster? Now that's another story... image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>i quickly realized your plan makes a nice hobby but the profit potential is sorely lacking. >>




    I wonder what this guy thinks of your last statement?

    Silver sale

    He is selling hundreds of 1 gram silver "bars" for between $3 and as high as $7 each. Furthermore its simply barstock that he cuts. Nothing collectible nor desirable about it. My bars will be hand poured and stamped (highly collectible). I get my silver for less than 38 cents a gram currently at APMEX. Looks to be a pretty sweet return to me! >>



    Please consider cost of raw materials .50,

    e-bay listing fee .35, e-bay final value fee .27,

    and paypal fees .37, stamp and envelope .50

    total $1.99.

    now factor in the time it takes to cut them.. polish them... stamp them... package them...

    now also factor in the cutting tools, the waste silver from cutting,
    polishing tools, stamp, and gosh only knows what else...

    and then factor in the thought you have to sell 100s and 1000s of them
    to even consider it worthwile...

    you would be better off just buying regular silver rounds and making
    two dollars an ounce on them...

    i am playing the devil's advocate here but everything i have stated
    seems reasonable enough to me to call the plan silly. In more normal
    times this would be a fool's errand. Only now and i am unsure how
    long into the future will rubes by 1 gram of silver stamped 999 for 5 bucks a whack!

    also i should add, picking out the most expensive ebay auction that
    recently ended while ignoring the majority that were very low... is
    hardly making a case. You would have been better of showing one
    ending for 3.50.. which seems to be the average.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stamp those 1 gram-ers with a figure 8, and call 'em good luck charms. The Chinese Yuan will pour in by the wheelbarrow full.image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.americanlegacycoins.com



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    << <i>

    << <i>i quickly realized your plan makes a nice hobby but the profit potential is sorely lacking. >>




    I wonder what this guy thinks of your last statement?

    Silver sale

    He is selling hundreds of 1 gram silver "bars" for between $3 and as high as $7 each. Furthermore its simply barstock that he cuts. Nothing collectible nor desirable about it. My bars will be hand poured and stamped (highly collectible). I get my silver for less than 38 cents a gram currently at APMEX. Looks to be a pretty sweet return to me! >>



    Please consider cost of raw materials .50,

    e-bay listing fee .35, e-bay final value fee .27,

    and paypal fees .37, stamp and envelope .50

    total $1.99.

    now factor in the time it takes to cut them.. polish them... stamp them... package them...

    now also factor in the cutting tools, the waste silver from cutting,
    polishing tools, stamp, and gosh only knows what else...

    and then factor in the thought you have to sell 100s and 1000s of them
    to even consider it worthwile...

    you would be better off just buying regular silver rounds and making
    two dollars an ounce on them...

    i am playing the devil's advocate here but everything i have stated
    seems reasonable enough to me to call the plan silly. In more normal
    times this would be a fool's errand. Only now and i am unsure how
    long into the future will rubes by 1 gram of silver stamped 999 for 5 bucks a whack!

    also i should add, picking out the most expensive ebay auction that
    recently ended while ignoring the majority that were very low... is
    hardly making a case. You would have been better of showing one
    ending for 3.50.. which seems to be the average. >>




    I took his highest recently sold price to demonstrate how much people will pay for nothing more than snipped barstock! Just imagine what they would pay for a hand poured "mini bar"! Even if he sells them for no more than $2.99 each, he is making over $1.00 PROFIT per piece. Seems to be a worthwhile "hobby" to me FC. And you were right....it will be just a hobby, but one that more than pays for itself.
  • NEVER buy a "homemade" silver bar .

    Lewis

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I might not buy from someone I don't know, but I would buy a hand poured silver bar from board member gecko109. Gecko109 has me put down for serveral low serial numbered pieces.
  • A few of you have expressed an interest in my forthcoming product. I'll keep you all posted!image
  • add me to your list
    Its all relative
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