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Georgia coin case with unusual twist is going to trial

Andrew O'Connell is accused of stealing coins from Joe and Tammy Barnes and is scheduled for trial in November. The Barnes, however, owe O'Connell and his father close to $200,000 for slandering them by saying they stole their rare coins, a civil jury found last week.

All this begs the question -- what's going on?

"Our contention is the civil case and criminal case are independent of each other," said Assistant District Attorney Shelly Faulk. "It's our intention to proceed."

The whole thing started in August 2006, when O'Connell appraised some of the Barnes' rare coins, said attorney Michael Garner, who represents O'Connell in the civil and criminal cases. O'Connell had the coins for a few days, returning them with an appraisal of about $3-4,000.

The Barnes, however, claimed that O'Connell had substituted less valued coins for theirs, and he went to the Public Safety Building in late September 2006 for an interview. After taking a polygraph test and talking to Tammy Barnes, O'Connell was arrested and charged with theft by taking, police report.

Garner filed a civil suit on behalf of Andrew and Joseph O'Connell in October 2006, claiming the Barnes slandered his clients in the media. He asked for $2,500,000 in total damages.

Instead, a Muscogee County jury decided Friday that Andrew O'Connell was entitled to $6,000 from Tammy Barnes and his father to $175,000 from both the Barnes.

"We think the case is full of error," said Matt Pope, who represents the Barnes.

Pope intends to appeal the case on behalf of the Barnes to the Georgia Court of Appeals. They have 30 days after the verdict to submit notice of appeal. Pope said he's confident of a reversal.

Garner said it's unusual for a civil case to reach trial before a criminal one. Faulk said Garner requested the civil case to go first.

"We wanted to get one of them tried," Garner said. "It had been over two years."

The prosecutor added she will review the civil case and its issues.

"One verdict doesn't necessarily mean a certain verdict will be found in another case," Faulk said.

Comments

  • Hmmm.... definitely an unusual twist. So if there is a greater than 50% chance the "victims" slandered the defendant (according to the civil finding), I predict reasonable doubt will win the defendant an acquital, unless the civil case is reversed.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "one verdict doesn't necessarily mean......"

    Yep, look at O.J., guilty in civil and "innocent" in criminal.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
    Welcome to Las Vegas, O.J.!

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • To ALL:
    I know the OConnell famly personally as a friend and a Business Associate [for over 20 years]. This is a third generation coin business and the first accusation of any wrong doing ever in the life of this family. Very upstanding and honest people. The people bringing these charges however have a very shady and warped lifestyle. Kind of people who have a lawer on call ready to sue at the least little instance of your neglect or mistake. This is what I was led to believe as I do not want to get any where near for fear of being next. The OConnells are associated with a lot of Collector,Dealer and Friends that signed affidavits to the Character and Reputation of all the OConnell Family and offered to appear in court on their Behalf. I hope you can get the picture of the both sides from a fellow board member and a close associate and friend of the OConnell family. Chas. Crews Woodstock, Georgia.
    Charles Crews ** CU Members that I have had Buy/sell deals with alohagary,dabigkahuna,goldman86,fivecents,endzone,clackamas,ericj96,Bochiman,Wingsrule,adriana,claychaser,holeinone1972,itsnotjustme,MJcoin,Kishul,jsego,TWQG,carlwolfort,jmski52,steelielee,grote15
  • RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭
    Scary for any dealer who takes possession of someone's raw coins...and a lesson to do everything possible to protect yourself. Maybe pix of the coins and customer on first receipt ad some sort of sign off.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    This sounds a lot like this scam.

    Uneducated person sends a coin for authentication/attribution and then claims a different coin was sent back!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!


  • << <i>"one verdict doesn't necessarily mean......"

    Yep, look at O.J., guilty in civil and "innocent" in criminal.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
    Welcome to Las Vegas, O.J.!

    bobimage >>



    The burden of proof is different in civil and criminal cases. But, if the criminal case is won, chances are that the same civil case will follow suit.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    I can not imagine any coin dealer submitting to a polygraph. Sorry, but all I can say is what a fool. It brings to mind the old joke about coin dealers...Q. How do you know if a coin dealer is lying? A. His lips are moving.image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can not imagine any coin dealer submitting to a polygraph. Sorry, but all I can say is what a fool. It brings to mind the old joke about coin dealers...Q. How do you know if a coin dealer is lying? A. His lips are moving.image >>





    It also reminds me of a joke about investment bankers in today's financial meltdown, which can also be applied to coin dealers:

    Q: What is the difference between a pidgeon and a coin dealer [or investment banker]?

    A: The pidgeon can still put a deposit on a Ferrari.


    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I assume, O' illustrious Longacre... you intended to say 'PIGEON'... image Cheers, RickO
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can not imagine any coin dealer submitting to a polygraph. Sorry, but all I can say is what a fool. >>



    Unless he was telling the truth and figured the polygraph would help exonerate him. Nowhere in the article does itsay that he failed the polygraph, just that he took one prior to being charged. There is a presumption of innocence in our court system, and at least one group of twelve citizens believed him already.


    Sean Reynolds
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised that this does not happen more often....with all of the scams back in the 70's and 80's pumping 'rare', overgraded coins at vastly inflated prices there has to be a lot of older folks out there with collections that they think are worth much much more than they actually are. The heirs (or unknowing purchasers looking for a score) end up with the coins, take them to a dealer to get them appraised, and then find out the are worth only a fraction of the value that they thought they were. So they take them to a couple other dealers with the same results and suspicion builds (and might even be planted by an offhand or otherwise comment 'Maybe the coins were switched?') that someone engaged in a nefarious action.

    I guess dealers should have a plan to protect themselves, especially with any collection that is raw or non top tier grading that needs a couple of days to look through. Photos maybe...

    K

    edited for a couple of missing words!
    ANA LM

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