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RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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They have started masking part of the cert number in item specifics. Yet they still require images of the slab which, of course, has the cert number on it. image

Russ, NCNE
eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    i'm sure it will only get worse...lol...watch ebay get bailed out after they kill their own horse
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    That sounds like the way they would do things.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    With the ebay fee increase I'm hopeful that this will be the spark that sets off a competitive forum. Right now they think they deserve a bidder share of the profits that the sellers. --Jerry
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I still can't edit my own messages. I meant a competitive venue to sell coins online. --Jerry
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I still can't edit my own messages. I meant a competitive venue to sell coins online. --Jerry >>

    I knew what you meant, and I agree.

    For Darksiders like me, though, it would have to be a competitor who could not only match eBay for traffic, but also global coverage.

    That might be some big shoes to fill, at least in the near future. I would love to see it happen, though.

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    gunbroker.com thrives because ebay doesn't allow firearms. It would be much harder with ebay still competing but if word got around that better deals were on coinzip.com or whatever the emergent competitor was, then it might work. --Jerry
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can only hope that somebody with some horsepower (like Google) will decide to get into the auction business and compete with Ebay.

    In the meantime we are stuck with the nitwits.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obviously another example of the person that was supposed to bring the brain to work that day so everyone could share being negligent in their duties.

    OR

    The previous custodian of the brain accidentally flushed after dropping it off for the next custodian.

    Either way, you didn't say that this shocked you, so I assume it doesn't.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They taught me a lesson in finance. How to sell silver at melt and still not be liquid. image

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They have started masking part of the cert number in item specifics. Yet they still require images of the slab which, of course, has the cert number on it. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Russ ... there has been a change to that policy...this is what was told to me:

    After listening to our sellers and their suggestions, we have made the
    decision that not all certified coins are required to show a front and
    back image. Certified coins with a date of 1980 or later are now not
    required to show images at all. Certified coins with a date of 1979 or
    earlier will still be required to show front and back images.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • tmcsr69tmcsr69 Posts: 1,307 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>They have started masking part of the cert number in item specifics. Yet they still require images of the slab which, of course, has the cert number on it. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Russ ... there has been a change to that policy...this is what was told to me:

    After listening to our sellers and their suggestions, we have made the
    decision that not all certified coins are required to show a front and
    back image. Certified coins with a date of 1980 or later are now not
    required to show images at all. Certified coins with a date of 1979 or
    earlier will still be required to show front and back images. >>



    I'm missing something here. Why would the coins date have anything to do with the policy?
    Crazy old man from Missouri
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,571 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I'm missing something here. Why would the coins date have anything to do with the policy? >>



    Answer : Because ebay policy makers are stupid.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suppose they feel anything after 1980 is considered "modern junk"image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • erroiderroid Posts: 795 ✭
    It's damned strange, as they don't track the #'s. I've sent report after report of a certain sellers Shill bidding on pieces already won; their answer is that they DON't track the #'s.... Go figure?
    John G Bradley II
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    I'm missing something here. Why would the coins date have anything to do with the policy? >>



    Answer : Because ebay policy makers are stupid. >>



    I actually think it was sellers of modern bullion who complained loud enough that eBay relented and allowed them to use generic images. Not that I disagree with the previous answer too.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Sean for that perspective on policy changes. I didn't consider the "Squeaky Wheel Gets the Oil" as it pertains to generic images/duplicate items with little numismatic significance image

    I hope I do not offend anyone with that wording as it pertains to numismatics.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just looked at one of Cameron's auctions, for a sample slab.

    The cert number info says " **MPLE "

    image

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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>I just looked at one of Cameron's auctions, for a sample slab.

    The cert number info says " **MPLE "

    image >>



    So retarded I'm not going to even put it in the box anymore.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Can it possibly get any dumber?

    Oh Jeez!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,571 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I just looked at one of Cameron's auctions, for a sample slab.

    The cert number info says " **MPLE "

    image >>



    So retarded I'm not going to even put it in the box anymore.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    Ohhh, MPLE... is that Matte Proof Like Example ?
    Hype it good !

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    The post 1980 rule is a seperate rule change unrelated to the OP. It is so I don't have to take seperate photos of every one of the 500 MS65 and MS66 Andrew Jackson dollars that I'm selling for pocketchange. It would make listing these low/no profit coins undoable.

    However, Russ's original post is applicable to the pre 1980 coins that require a photo of the slab but for some reason they are obscuring the cert number. Maybe they are planning to fuzz out the cert number on the slabs. But if they do that, why require a photo of the slab as they would allow a small fuzzy photo w/o a cert number which could be stolen from anywhere.

    They just don't get coins, and don't want to learn. They refuse to accept the fact that the buy/sell spreads in the coin business do not support giving ebay $10% and paypal 3% and still being profitable for the seller w/o screwing the buyer...but that's another thread.

    --Jerry
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They just don't get coins, and don't want to learn. They refuse to accept the fact that the buy/sell spreads in the coin business do not support giving ebay $10% and paypal 3% and still being profitable for the seller w/o screwing the buyer...but that's another thread. >>



    Their answer has been to tell you to change your business model.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< They just don't get coins, and don't want to learn. They refuse to accept the fact that the buy/sell spreads in the coin business do not support giving ebay $10% and paypal 3% and still being profitable for the seller w/o screwing the buyer...but that's another thread. >>

    Their answer has been to tell you to change your business model. >>



    I got a similar answer from my antique mall, when they decided to start charging a 10% commission in addition to the rent. I told them my margin was barely ten percent on some of the US material. They told me to up my prices, and wondered why I tried to stay at Redbook price or below it, when Redbook is just a guide. (The guide most members of the general public use on the sort of material I sell.)

    Actually, the antique mall owner did bring up some valid points, and I understand her wanting to keep her own business viable.

    I still was gonna walk. Not really in protest over the commission- that's pretty much within the bounds of normalcy in the antique biz. I was just thinking of closing it up and going all-Internet, anyway.

    They didn't want me to go, though. I'm the closest thing there is to a B&M coin dealer in about a 70-mile radius. Naturally they wanted to keep me. So they gave me a good discount on the rent (though I still will be paying the 10% commission).

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  • dengadenga Posts: 922 ✭✭✭
    Russ September 27, 2008

    They have started masking part of the cert number in item specifics. Yet they still require images of the slab which, of course, has the cert number on it.

    Russ, NCNE

    ******************

    eBay and Brain Trust in the same sentence ?

    Denga
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ ... there has been a change to that policy...this is what was told to me: >>



    I know, but I sell a lot of earlier stuff that still requires slab images.

    Russ
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    So my presidential dollars do not require slab images?? image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭


    << <i>They have started masking part of the cert number in item specifics. Yet they still require images of the slab which, of course, has the cert number on it. image

    Russ, NCNE >>




    Hey in the old days there where brainiacs that masked out the cert number in on the slab, but listed it in the description. Can you say brain fart!!!
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course it's a silly requirement. But it's also silly that so many here complain about it (as well as the many other silly requirements) yet keep on sending their money to Ebay. Not unlike complaining about PCGS' grading yet resubmitting the same coin multiple times. You are free to take your business elsewhere. But if you choose to stay, just stop whining about it. It's undignified.

    Ebay is great!!! (seriously, I freakin' love Ebay...)














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