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Here's a question I could ask PCGS but I'll try it here first.

It's my understanding that PCGS is located in California.

When I send my coins in for grading I mail them to California.

The grading and slabbing if appropriate is done in California (I'm assuming)

And when my coins are returned via postage I paid for, they arrive to me in Texas from California.


With my understanding of the above I'm wondering why...

On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

"TX residents add 7% sales tax"

It doesn't say anything about any other state. Why would I have to pay Texas Sales tax for "services" done by a company in California ?

OK Flame away...

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Californians HATE Texans

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I don't remember having to pay tax on the collectors club in the past but if I did and would have noticed it then I'd of griped about it.

    I also don't remember paying 7% sales tax on the coins that they grade ? So does PCGS pull the 7% tax out of the set grading fees and pay it to the State of Texas as well ?
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Because you live in Texas and when you buy something the sales tax in Texas must be 7%, if you lived in CA it would have been higher. >>


    I live in Illinois. We have a sales tax. I don't pay any tax on my collector's club membership.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't remember having to pay tax on the collectors club in the past but if I did and would have noticed it then I'd of griped about it.

    I also don't remember paying 7% sales tax on the coins that they grade ? So does PCGS pull the 7% tax out of the set grading fees and pay it to the State of Texas as well ? >>



    never paid TX sales tax on PCGS membership in the past, we'll see what the next renewal brings
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just a guess but TX and CA have agreed to a mutual sales tax on purchases made in those two
    states. Other states could be different.

    Al
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    My guess is TX is much more strict on obtaining sales tax on items/services that it's residence purchase.
  • Maybe PCGS owns more of Heritage than we thought.image
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could it be that Texas has no property tax and the make that up with sales tax?
    Larry

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could it be that Texas has no property tax and the make that up with sales tax? >>



    unfortunately not
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Could it be that Texas has no property tax and the make that up with sales tax? >>



    unfortunately not >>



    Texas is ranked 38 in the nation for property tax'simage .But it has no income tax.

    Al
  • Texas and California have a reciprocal sales tax agreement, as you have found out.

    Ray
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Texas and California have a reciprocal sales tax agreement, as you have found out.

    Ray >>



    That's what I was thinking. PCGS is still in Santa Ana, CA near the airport LINK. Although, they could have confused Santa Ana, CA with Santa Ana, TX (humor).
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

    I'm surprised none of the grammar/phrase experts have attacked this line yet. Anyone?
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    The California Board of Equalization hasn't told me to collect sales tax on sales to Texas. --Jerry


  • << <i>On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

    I'm surprised none of the grammar/phrase experts have attacked this line yet. Anyone? >>





    intents and purposes
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,254 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's my understanding that PCGS is located in California.

    When I send my coins in for grading I mail them to California.

    The grading and slabbing if appropriate is done in California (I'm assuming)

    And when my coins are returned via postage I paid for, they arrive to me in Texas from California.


    With my understanding of the above I'm wondering why...

    On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

    "TX residents add 7% sales tax"

    It doesn't say anything about any other state. Why would I have to pay Texas Sales tax for "services" done by a company in California ?

    OK Flame away... >>



    Just don't pay it.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

    I'm surprised none of the grammar/phrase experts have attacked this line yet. Anyone? >>





    intents and purposes >>


    Thank you Gecko. It's like six and one half dozen (another butcher job I've heard used...)
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can answer your question, but then I will be guilty of telling too much truth and it deals with politics, so just move from Texas or go to a place where FEMA is set up and get your free image

    On the other hand, maybe it was a "Mechanical Error" and someone at PCGS misspelled teXas image
  • I just received a renewal form in Florida and the form only mentioned taxes for Texas as the OP stated. Which is odd because normally businesses only collect sales tax in the state or states where they have a physical office from what I understand.
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  • dont want to paid the taxes. well its easey. go down to your local L&I office and fill out a buss lic. form, pay the 25.00 bucks
    and get your self a tax number. send a copy to pcgs ristering you co. and then at the end of each quarter when filling your taxes
    log no activety. ((be sure to log your co. as INC. this seperates your presonal from your buss.
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    << <i>

    << <i>On my Collectors Club Member Renewal form which for all intensive purposes looks to be generic... under the pricing options it says:

    I'm surprised none of the grammar/phrase experts have attacked this line yet. Anyone? >>





    intents and purposes >>


    Thank you Gecko. It's like six and one half dozen (another butcher job I've heard used...) >>




    Or how about "French benefits"?image
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    OK I know BJ (the registry goddess) lives and works out of Texas. If she is claiming her office there as a PCGS office, PCGS has offices in CA and TX. So Sales Tax must be collected in Texas as well as CA.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Texas and California have a reciprocal sales tax agreement, as you have found out.

    Ray >>



    That's what I was thinking. PCGS is still in Santa Ana, CA near the airport LINK. Although, they could have confused Santa Ana, CA with Santa Ana, TX (humor). >>



    Uhhh in the same building as "Good Rockin Tonight"?

    Well there you go!
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Texas and California have a reciprocal sales tax agreement, as you have found out.

    Ray >>



    That's what I was thinking. PCGS is still in Santa Ana, CA near the airport LINK. Although, they could have confused Santa Ana, CA with Santa Ana, TX (humor). >>



    Their just down the street from my house... image
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think there's any reciprocal sales tax agreement between CA and TX.

    There is, however, a multi-state push to get retailers to collect sales tax on out of state purchases. Called SSUTA (Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agreement ), it is pretty young and focused today on a simple sales tax agreement to deal with state's differing sales tax rates -- one common rate, in other words. It is also impotent since only congress can force businesses to collect sales tax on out-of-state purchase. But it is counting on momentum and some big retailers are signing on because of amnesty offers.

    As of today, businesses are not required to collect out-of-state sales tax unless they have a physical presence. And it can be quite small. Does PCGS have offices, a warehouse, etc. in TX? Even if it doesn't have a presence in TX it still may collect sales tax if it cares to. I can't imagine why it would want to so I'm guessing there is a satellite PCGS building somewhere in TX.

    Remember too that even if you aren't charged sales tax you are still required to pay it. It goes on your annual tax return and is called a "use tax". Some states (particularly NY & CA) are getting pushy. How silly...I'm sure we're all complying and paying our "use taxes" when we didn't pay sales tax, right?

    With the economy as it is I'll bet we hear a lot more about this. I'll also bet that within five years we'll pay sales tax on all out of state purchases unless you live in one of the five (?) states that don't have sales tax...Oregon, Delaware, Montana, Alasksa, New Hampshire (others?).
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think there's any reciprocal sales tax agreement between CA and TX.

    There is, however, a multi-state push to get retailers to collect sales tax on out of state purchases. Called SSUTA (Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agreement ), it is pretty young and focused today on a simple sales tax agreement to deal with state's differing sales tax rates -- one common rate, in other words. It is also impotent since only congress can force businesses to collect sales tax on out-of-state purchase. But it is counting on momentum and some big retailers are signing on because of amnesty offers.

    As of today, businesses are not required to collect out-of-state sales tax unless they have a physical presence. And it can be quite small. Does PCGS have offices, a warehouse, etc. in TX? Even if it doesn't have a presence in TX it still may collect sales tax if it cares to. I can't imagine why it would want to so I'm guessing there is a satellite PCGS building somewhere in TX.

    Remember too that even if you aren't charged sales tax you are still required to pay it. It goes on your annual tax return and is called a "use tax". Some states (particularly NY & CA) are getting pushy. How silly...I'm sure we're all complying and paying our "use taxes" when we didn't pay sales tax, right?





    With the economy as it is I'll bet we hear a lot more about this. I'll also bet that within five years we'll pay sales tax on all out of state purchases unless you live in one of the five (?) states that don't have sales tax...Oregon, Delaware, Montana, Alasksa, New Hampshire (others?). >>



    Good post.
    Al
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So what was the official explanation from PCGS if any?
    theknowitalltroll;

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